• The Textbook Monopoly

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 25 13:42:53 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    "Some publishers are known to offer thousands of dollars to professors
    and instructors just to review textbooks for potential inclusion in
    their coursework. The same publishers sometimes offer commissions on
    textbooks sold or (in what is almost outright bribery) offer kickbacks
    to professors for textbook adoption (Bartlett)."




    The Textbook Monopoly in American Education
    Control over educational policy in the United States is split between
    the federal, state, and local levels of government, which, under the
    direction of their respective constituents, are tasked with defining a
    system of educational standards that codify what students under their jurisdiction ought to learn. Schools then implement curriculum in
    response to the combination of standards specific to their region, often
    in conjunction with the use of privately-produced textbooks. Over time, unfortunately, the efficacy of this system has diminished severely as a
    handful of companies have wrested control over the majority of the
    textbook industry. As of 2013, just three textbook publishing
    conglomerates - Houghton-Mifflin Harcourt, McGraw-Hill Education, and
    Pearson - assert control over "more than 80% of the $8.8 billion
    publishing market" internationally (Vohra 9). At surface level, the hold
    of these companies on the textbook industry is like any other classic
    monopoly, with drastically increased prices and comparably-reduced
    competition. Upon inspection, however, it can be shown that this oligopoly-nearing-monopoly held by the companies aforementioned has
    deeper repercussions, having, over the last several decades, transformed
    an effective private-public partnership into a nefarious machine that
    serves to inflict disastrous consequences on the potency of democracy in education in ways that supersede the democratic process and shift the ideological battle over what America’s youth are taught from Congress to
    the classroom. By almost every metric, the textbook monopoly has
    Lao 2
    demonstrated itself to be both financially and academically detrimental
    to students and citizens alike.
    Like any other monopoly, the most immediately-visible disadvantages of
    the textbook monopoly are financial in nature, manifesting most
    conspicuously in increased prices. According to the American Enterprise Institute, a nonpartisan, nonprofit public policy think tank, textbook
    prices have increased 812% since 1978, outstripping inflation of the
    cost of medical services, new home prices, and the consumer price index
    in the same time period (Priceonomics). College students, who often need
    to buy textbooks themselves in addition to tuition, housing, and
    university costs, are generally hit the hardest by increasing textbook
    prices. Per the College Board, “the average student at a four-year
    public institution spends $1,200 annually on books and supplies” (Allen
    1). This figure adds significant burden to the current average annual
    cost of attending a public four-year institution of almost $15,000 (Ma
    et al. 11, 20). Textbook prices are already hefty for a number of
    reasons, including a monopolistic lack of competition in the industry,
    reseller markup, and author’s royalties. None of these factors, however,
    are quite as impactful as the funds spent on marketing the textbooks:
    enabled by increased revenues from textbook sales, a worrying amount of publishers engage in ethically-questionable textbook marketing practices
    with professors that hurt students the most. Some publishers are known
    to offer thousands of dollars to professors and instructors just to
    review textbooks for potential inclusion in their coursework. The same publishers sometimes offer commissions on textbooks sold or (in what is
    almost outright bribery) offer kickbacks to professors for textbook
    adoption (Bartlett). While these deals can be lucrative to professors
    faced with inadequate salaries, they can be especially detrimental to
    students, who are forced to purchase said textbooks at the inflated
    price in order to pass (and in some cases, even participate in) the
    class. To capitalize on
    Lao 3
    textbook purchase lock-in, publishers resort to tactics such as textbook revision: many publishers release new ‘revised’ editions of existing
    textbooks every 2-4 years, marketing the ‘revamped’ books as new then
    selling them at same or greater prices (Priceonomics). While these
    updated versions can include new content, many textbooks, especially
    those written on mathematics and other technical subjects which do not
    warrant frequent revision, are updated solely for the purpose of
    revenue. In the same vein, publishers push web-based homework submission applications to professors (a theoretically beneficial proposal), but
    take advantage of students by requiring a special online code to access
    the application, often sold at unreasonable prices or only bundled with
    a physical textbook. With the increased revenues from textbook sales to students who have no choice in purchasing their goods as a result of
    such tactics, textbook publishers are able to better fund their
    unethical textbook-marketing practices.
    These anti-student behaviors are made possible by the sheer magnitude of influence textbook publishers such as Pearson have over American
    education. While it operates internationally, Pearson finds most of its business in the West, with the North American market accounting for 59%
    of the company’s revenues and 66% of its total profits (Rushton). The conglomerate has business in the composition and publication of
    textbooks and the creation, distribution, and grading of teacher qualifications, student exams, and standardized tests - in fact, the
    British company is thought to control approximately 60% of all North
    American standardized testing (Reingold). The corporation also played an instrumental role in the development of curriculum for and the
    implementation of the vastly-controversial Common Core education
    standards, especially in elementary schools (Rushton). The oligopoly
    over and general privatization of American education that companies such
    as Pearson have achieved has created a single point of failure that has
    allowed certain parties to exert a disproportionate amount of
    Lao 4
    influence over what American students are actually taught, in ways that
    are detrimental to presenting a well-rounded and unbiased worldview in
    the national classroom.
    In a nation that has become increasingly polarized over the last
    decades, the ideological battle for what content and worldview is taught
    in the classroom has become even more significant, especially in regards
    to religion. This disagreement has historically been resolved within the government: conservative states tend to pass legislation requiring the inclusion of religion-supported perspectives in science and history
    teachings in addition to federal education standards, while liberal
    states tend to act in the opposite. The result of this process is a
    common core (no pun intended) of educational standards defined at the
    federal level, with some adjustments at the state and local levels - a
    victory for democracy and dual federalism. The textbook monopoly,
    however, has undermined the efficacy of this process: while
    textbook-publishing companies were previously able to assemble a single textbook version that would be admissible and marketable in all fifty
    states by catering to national standards, this is no longer exactly the
    case. Because of the actions of a select group of regulators, textbook publishers are now forced to consider a different lowest common
    denominator in terms of educational standards; a change that undermines
    the system of our government and shifts the ideological battle of what
    is taught to our nation’s youth - arguably the most intellectually
    vulnerable demographic of our population - from public politics to
    private industry.
    This threat to American students is most strongly exemplified in the
    actions of the Texas State Board of Education. A unit of the Texas
    Education Agency, the Board is responsible for setting curriculum
    standards for the state, effectively dictating what content is
    permissible for instruction in every Texas public school. For most of
    the last couple decades, the state’s populace has chosen to elect (in
    the words of former chair Don McLeroy) “solid religious
    Lao 5
    conservatives” to the fourteen-member State Board of Education (fifteen, including the appointed chair) (Chancey 325). In their tenure, this
    majority has acted to ensure that their view of “true American history”
    is taught in schools by emphasizing the link between the ideology of the Founding Fathers and Christianity and asserting that the country was
    “built on biblical principles” (Chancey 325-326). On one hand, some organizations and citizens (including the Texas Christian Coalition and
    Chuck Norris) have praised these changes for their more-faithful (pun
    intended) representation of the country’s founding. On the other hand,
    Texan educational reform groups on both sides of the spectrum (albeit to
    a much lesser extent on the right) have lambasted the Board’s changes
    for having "heavy-handed religious and ideological bias, historical
    inaccuracy, whitewashing of unappealing aspects of American history,
    [and] inattention to diversity issues” (Chancey 326-327). Regardless of
    one’s opinion on the issue, the Board’s actions are not inherently
    harmful or undemocratic - the members of the State Board of Education
    are elected, and the Board’s influence is only supposed to extend within
    the state; so by all means, whether one agrees or disagrees with the
    Board’s actions, the standards changes should simply be democracy at
    work.
    However, because of the textbook monopoly, the Board’s actions have more far-reaching implications than what might initially be apparent. In the
    words of Dr. Mark A. Chancey, a prestigious Duke scholar working as a
    professor of religious studies at the Southern Methodist University in
    Dallas, the Board’s changes to standards would “likely find its way into [textbooks] adopted across the country” considering the fact that
    textbook “publishers must develop textbooks that cohere with the Texas standards” in addition to those of the federal government and the other
    49 states (Chancey 326). This possibility is especially likely given
    Texas’s relationship with textbook publishers: the Lone Star State’s
    deals with textbook
    Lao 6
    publishers amount to hundreds of millions of dollars (Rushton). Because
    of the reduced amount of textbook publishers in the North American
    market, and the relatedly reduced competition and amount of textbooks
    published in the region, textbooks published in the present day bear the increasing risk of presenting information that is not representative of
    the decisions and values of local governments. In a jarring upset to
    dual federalism, the undue influence that the textbook industry has (advertently or inadvertently) been allowed to wield has created an
    environment detrimental not only to academia, or only Texas, but to the
    country as a whole — the existence of which has become increasingly
    apparent. A scholarly review funded by watchdog and activist group Texas Freedom Network of 43 proposed history, geography, and government
    textbooks written in accordance with Texas education standards for
    grades 6-12 found that several of the proposed textbooks contained
    arguably misrepresentative portrayals of American government and
    history, including exaggerations of the "Judeo-Christian influence on
    the nation's founding," biased statements "inappropriately [portraying]
    Islam and Muslims negatively," failure to address "legitimate problems
    that exist in capitalism," and inclusion of potentially offensive "anthropological categories and racial terminology in describing African civilization" (Strauss 1). Regardless of whether or not such
    representations are accurate, it is clear that the Texas State Board of Education, as a result of the textbook monopoly, now possesses an
    unprecedented ability to influence national academic policy. It is clear
    that any organization, not just the Texas State Board of Education, with
    a sufficient stake in the private textbook publishing industry, can
    informally bypass the checks and balances underpinning our democratic determination of educational standards. It is clear that because of the textbook monopoly’s ability to shift the ideological battleground of educational standards from the public sector to the private sector,
    America’s system of education is now more than ever susceptible to
    abuse.
    Lao 7
    Like any other monopoly, the textbook monopoly creates an
    anti-competitive market characterized by increasing prices and
    diminishing quality, the success of which perpetuates the monopoly,
    posing pertinent financial consequences for all consumers, especially
    students. Unlike a typical monopoly, however, this particular
    near-monopoly exercises a unique capacity to shape both the beliefs and ideological future of this nation’s students, and by extension, the
    nation itself. The monopoly’s potential for the distortion and misrepresentation of the tenets of knowledge undermines the
    decision-making processes embedded in our democratic republic. Rarely
    before has such monumental influence over an area of public concern,
    especially one so imperative to the future and development of the United States, been concentrated in the hands of so few.





    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Jan 27 10:53:16 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Let's start with the very first chapter of the author's textbook
    considered the number one textbook on Relativity...

    "General relativity is an elegant and powerful theory, but it is also a
    strange one.
    According to Einstein, the phenomenon we usually think of as the force
    of gravity is really not a force at all, but
    rather a byproduct of the curvature of spacetime.
    Although. we have become accustomed to this idea over time, it is still
    a peculiar notion, ..."


    "a strange one"??? meaning weird, funny, freakish, wako, screwy, kooky, backasswards, etc.


    "a peculiar notion"???? meaning bizarre, erie, flaky, freakish, funny,
    odd, etc.



    The top Relativity textbook is considered by it;s own author to be...backasswards!



    ass-backwards.





    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!!

    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the
    head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.






    Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain

    Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies

    Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers

    That grow so incredibly high

    Newspaper taxis appear on the shore

    Waiting to take you away

    Climb in the back with your head in the clouds

    And you're gone

    Lucy in the sky with diamonds

    Lucy in the sky with diamonds

    Lucy in the sky with diamonds

    Ah

    Picture yourself on a train in a station

    With plasticine porters with looking glass ties ....






    The Starmaker wrote:

    "Some publishers are known to offer thousands of dollars to professors
    and instructors just to review textbooks for potential inclusion in
    their coursework. The same publishers sometimes offer commissions on textbooks sold or (in what is almost outright bribery) offer kickbacks
    to professors for textbook adoption (Bartlett)."

    The Textbook Monopoly in American Education
    Control over educational policy in the United States is split between
    the federal, state, and local levels of government, which, under the direction of their respective constituents, are tasked with defining a
    system of educational standards that codify what students under their jurisdiction ought to learn. Schools then implement curriculum in
    response to the combination of standards specific to their region, often
    in conjunction with the use of privately-produced textbooks. Over time, unfortunately, the efficacy of this system has diminished severely as a handful of companies have wrested control over the majority of the
    textbook industry. As of 2013, just three textbook publishing
    conglomerates - Houghton-Mifflin Harcourt, McGraw-Hill Education, and
    Pearson - assert control over "more than 80% of the $8.8 billion
    publishing market" internationally (Vohra 9). At surface level, the hold
    of these companies on the textbook industry is like any other classic monopoly, with drastically increased prices and comparably-reduced competition. Upon inspection, however, it can be shown that this oligopoly-nearing-monopoly held by the companies aforementioned has
    deeper repercussions, having, over the last several decades, transformed
    an effective private-public partnership into a nefarious machine that
    serves to inflict disastrous consequences on the potency of democracy in education in ways that supersede the democratic process and shift the ideological battle over what America’s youth are taught from Congress to
    the classroom. By almost every metric, the textbook monopoly has
    Lao 2
    demonstrated itself to be both financially and academically detrimental
    to students and citizens alike.
    Like any other monopoly, the most immediately-visible disadvantages of
    the textbook monopoly are financial in nature, manifesting most
    conspicuously in increased prices. According to the American Enterprise Institute, a nonpartisan, nonprofit public policy think tank, textbook
    prices have increased 812% since 1978, outstripping inflation of the
    cost of medical services, new home prices, and the consumer price index
    in the same time period (Priceonomics). College students, who often need
    to buy textbooks themselves in addition to tuition, housing, and
    university costs, are generally hit the hardest by increasing textbook prices. Per the College Board, “the average student at a four-year
    public institution spends $1,200 annually on books and supplies” (Allen
    1). This figure adds significant burden to the current average annual
    cost of attending a public four-year institution of almost $15,000 (Ma
    et al. 11, 20). Textbook prices are already hefty for a number of
    reasons, including a monopolistic lack of competition in the industry, reseller markup, and author’s royalties. None of these factors, however,
    are quite as impactful as the funds spent on marketing the textbooks:
    enabled by increased revenues from textbook sales, a worrying amount of publishers engage in ethically-questionable textbook marketing practices
    with professors that hurt students the most. Some publishers are known
    to offer thousands of dollars to professors and instructors just to
    review textbooks for potential inclusion in their coursework. The same publishers sometimes offer commissions on textbooks sold or (in what is almost outright bribery) offer kickbacks to professors for textbook
    adoption (Bartlett). While these deals can be lucrative to professors
    faced with inadequate salaries, they can be especially detrimental to students, who are forced to purchase said textbooks at the inflated
    price in order to pass (and in some cases, even participate in) the
    class. To capitalize on
    Lao 3
    textbook purchase lock-in, publishers resort to tactics such as textbook revision: many publishers release new ‘revised’ editions of existing textbooks every 2-4 years, marketing the ‘revamped’ books as new then
    selling them at same or greater prices (Priceonomics). While these
    updated versions can include new content, many textbooks, especially
    those written on mathematics and other technical subjects which do not warrant frequent revision, are updated solely for the purpose of
    revenue. In the same vein, publishers push web-based homework submission applications to professors (a theoretically beneficial proposal), but
    take advantage of students by requiring a special online code to access
    the application, often sold at unreasonable prices or only bundled with
    a physical textbook. With the increased revenues from textbook sales to students who have no choice in purchasing their goods as a result of
    such tactics, textbook publishers are able to better fund their
    unethical textbook-marketing practices.
    These anti-student behaviors are made possible by the sheer magnitude of influence textbook publishers such as Pearson have over American
    education. While it operates internationally, Pearson finds most of its business in the West, with the North American market accounting for 59%
    of the company’s revenues and 66% of its total profits (Rushton). The conglomerate has business in the composition and publication of
    textbooks and the creation, distribution, and grading of teacher qualifications, student exams, and standardized tests - in fact, the
    British company is thought to control approximately 60% of all North
    American standardized testing (Reingold). The corporation also played an instrumental role in the development of curriculum for and the
    implementation of the vastly-controversial Common Core education
    standards, especially in elementary schools (Rushton). The oligopoly
    over and general privatization of American education that companies such
    as Pearson have achieved has created a single point of failure that has allowed certain parties to exert a disproportionate amount of
    Lao 4
    influence over what American students are actually taught, in ways that
    are detrimental to presenting a well-rounded and unbiased worldview in
    the national classroom.
    In a nation that has become increasingly polarized over the last
    decades, the ideological battle for what content and worldview is taught
    in the classroom has become even more significant, especially in regards
    to religion. This disagreement has historically been resolved within the government: conservative states tend to pass legislation requiring the inclusion of religion-supported perspectives in science and history
    teachings in addition to federal education standards, while liberal
    states tend to act in the opposite. The result of this process is a
    common core (no pun intended) of educational standards defined at the
    federal level, with some adjustments at the state and local levels - a victory for democracy and dual federalism. The textbook monopoly,
    however, has undermined the efficacy of this process: while textbook-publishing companies were previously able to assemble a single textbook version that would be admissible and marketable in all fifty
    states by catering to national standards, this is no longer exactly the
    case. Because of the actions of a select group of regulators, textbook publishers are now forced to consider a different lowest common
    denominator in terms of educational standards; a change that undermines
    the system of our government and shifts the ideological battle of what
    is taught to our nation’s youth - arguably the most intellectually
    vulnerable demographic of our population - from public politics to
    private industry.
    This threat to American students is most strongly exemplified in the
    actions of the Texas State Board of Education. A unit of the Texas
    Education Agency, the Board is responsible for setting curriculum
    standards for the state, effectively dictating what content is
    permissible for instruction in every Texas public school. For most of
    the last couple decades, the state’s populace has chosen to elect (in
    the words of former chair Don McLeroy) “solid religious
    Lao 5
    conservatives” to the fourteen-member State Board of Education (fifteen, including the appointed chair) (Chancey 325). In their tenure, this
    majority has acted to ensure that their view of “true American history”
    is taught in schools by emphasizing the link between the ideology of the Founding Fathers and Christianity and asserting that the country was
    “built on biblical principles” (Chancey 325-326). On one hand, some organizations and citizens (including the Texas Christian Coalition and
    Chuck Norris) have praised these changes for their more-faithful (pun intended) representation of the country’s founding. On the other hand,
    Texan educational reform groups on both sides of the spectrum (albeit to
    a much lesser extent on the right) have lambasted the Board’s changes
    for having "heavy-handed religious and ideological bias, historical inaccuracy, whitewashing of unappealing aspects of American history,
    [and] inattention to diversity issues” (Chancey 326-327). Regardless of
    one’s opinion on the issue, the Board’s actions are not inherently
    harmful or undemocratic - the members of the State Board of Education
    are elected, and the Board’s influence is only supposed to extend within
    the state; so by all means, whether one agrees or disagrees with the
    Board’s actions, the standards changes should simply be democracy at
    work.
    However, because of the textbook monopoly, the Board’s actions have more far-reaching implications than what might initially be apparent. In the
    words of Dr. Mark A. Chancey, a prestigious Duke scholar working as a professor of religious studies at the Southern Methodist University in Dallas, the Board’s changes to standards would “likely find its way into [textbooks] adopted across the country” considering the fact that
    textbook “publishers must develop textbooks that cohere with the Texas standards” in addition to those of the federal government and the other
    49 states (Chancey 326). This possibility is especially likely given
    Texas’s relationship with textbook publishers: the Lone Star State’s
    deals with textbook
    Lao 6
    publishers amount to hundreds of millions of dollars (Rushton). Because
    of the reduced amount of textbook publishers in the North American
    market, and the relatedly reduced competition and amount of textbooks published in the region, textbooks published in the present day bear the increasing risk of presenting information that is not representative of
    the decisions and values of local governments. In a jarring upset to
    dual federalism, the undue influence that the textbook industry has (advertently or inadvertently) been allowed to wield has created an environment detrimental not only to academia, or only Texas, but to the country as a whole — the existence of which has become increasingly
    apparent. A scholarly review funded by watchdog and activist group Texas Freedom Network of 43 proposed history, geography, and government
    textbooks written in accordance with Texas education standards for
    grades 6-12 found that several of the proposed textbooks contained
    arguably misrepresentative portrayals of American government and
    history, including exaggerations of the "Judeo-Christian influence on
    the nation's founding," biased statements "inappropriately [portraying]
    Islam and Muslims negatively," failure to address "legitimate problems
    that exist in capitalism," and inclusion of potentially offensive "anthropological categories and racial terminology in describing African civilization" (Strauss 1). Regardless of whether or not such
    representations are accurate, it is clear that the Texas State Board of Education, as a result of the textbook monopoly, now possesses an unprecedented ability to influence national academic policy. It is clear
    that any organization, not just the Texas State Board of Education, with
    a sufficient stake in the private textbook publishing industry, can informally bypass the checks and balances underpinning our democratic determination of educational standards. It is clear that because of the textbook monopoly’s ability to shift the ideological battleground of educational standards from the public sector to the private sector,
    America’s system of education is now more than ever susceptible to
    abuse.
    Lao 7
    Like any other monopoly, the textbook monopoly creates an
    anti-competitive market characterized by increasing prices and
    diminishing quality, the success of which perpetuates the monopoly,
    posing pertinent financial consequences for all consumers, especially students. Unlike a typical monopoly, however, this particular
    near-monopoly exercises a unique capacity to shape both the beliefs and ideological future of this nation’s students, and by extension, the
    nation itself. The monopoly’s potential for the distortion and misrepresentation of the tenets of knowledge undermines the
    decision-making processes embedded in our democratic republic. Rarely
    before has such monumental influence over an area of public concern, especially one so imperative to the future and development of the United States, been concentrated in the hands of so few.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Jan 27 20:52:11 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!!

    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the
    head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the
    outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals
    and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.

    Did you know Bill Gates has autism?


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Jan 28 09:37:57 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!!

    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the
    head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the
    outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals
    and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.


    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...


    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.


    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    bumball


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Jan 29 10:21:53 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/28/25 11:37 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!! >>>
    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the
    head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the
    outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals
    and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite
    positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.


    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...


    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.


    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    bumball



    Yes you may call it that. A sickness. but the advent of "male" form of lifeforms itself started as a "sickness". The first male on Earth
    appeared when a virus got inside an egg, but this one made the
    offsprings bettr than the usual one.

    And what is a bumball? Even DeepSeek doesn't know what you're talking
    about.

    Bumball? Ain't you one?

    Bumballs are those guys with a gym membership, except the dumbells who
    have gym membership only go once a year...

    you probaly go there once a month..

    You pay the Gym so you can ...walk???

    When people pass the gym they look through the window like
    looking at monkeys at a zoo.


    'Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym.'


    Have you heard about...


    Sep 13, 2024 · Illia 'Golem' Yefimchyk, known as the world's 'most
    monstrous bodybuilder,' died on Sept. 8, 2024 at the age of 36 after
    suffering a heart ...



    If you understand Physics...the heart needs to keep pumping blood..


    and guys who go to gym need to
    first get real fat and turn that lard hard!

    Muscles is fat hard lard.


    Heart pumping blood is a function that keeps lifeforms on
    earth...alive.


    Bumball, dats what i see passing by a gym window...a bunch of dumbells
    with nothing to do wil dumb looks on their faces.


    It's a zoo!


    Look! She's walking!! standing still...wow!



    Are you bulletproof????









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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Jan 29 13:03:31 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/29/25 12:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/28/25 11:37 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!! >>>>>
    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the >>>>> head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the >>>> outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals >>>> and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite >>>> positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.


    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...


    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.


    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    bumball



    Yes you may call it that. A sickness. but the advent of "male" form of
    lifeforms itself started as a "sickness". The first male on Earth
    appeared when a virus got inside an egg, but this one made the
    offsprings bettr than the usual one.

    And what is a bumball? Even DeepSeek doesn't know what you're talking
    about.

    Bumball? Ain't you one?

    Bumballs are those guys with a gym membership, except the dumbells who
    have gym membership only go once a year...

    you probaly go there once a month..

    You pay the Gym so you can ...walk???

    When people pass the gym they look through the window like
    looking at monkeys at a zoo.


    'Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym.'


    Have you heard about...


    Sep 13, 2024 · Illia 'Golem' Yefimchyk, known as the world's 'most monstrous bodybuilder,' died on Sept. 8, 2024 at the age of 36 after suffering a heart ...



    If you understand Physics...the heart needs to keep pumping blood..


    and guys who go to gym need to
    first get real fat and turn that lard hard!

    Muscles is fat hard lard.


    Heart pumping blood is a function that keeps lifeforms on
    earth...alive.


    Bumball, dats what i see passing by a gym window...a bunch of dumbells
    with nothing to do wil dumb looks on their faces.


    It's a zoo!


    Look! She's walking!! standing still...wow!



    Are you bulletproof????










    I never go to Gym. It is just the place to catch Covid.

    Yeah, FAT people should stay away from gyms...

    i head Covid kills fat people mostly.


    How fat are you?



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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Jan 30 10:45:54 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/29/25 3:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/29/25 12:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/28/25 11:37 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism.. >>>>>>> it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!!

    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the >>>>>>> head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the >>>>>> outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals
    and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If >>>>>> outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite >>>>>> positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.


    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...


    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.


    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    bumball



    Yes you may call it that. A sickness. but the advent of "male" form of >>>> lifeforms itself started as a "sickness". The first male on Earth
    appeared when a virus got inside an egg, but this one made the
    offsprings bettr than the usual one.

    And what is a bumball? Even DeepSeek doesn't know what you're talking >>>> about.

    Bumball? Ain't you one?

    Bumballs are those guys with a gym membership, except the dumbells who >>> have gym membership only go once a year...

    you probaly go there once a month..

    You pay the Gym so you can ...walk???

    When people pass the gym they look through the window like
    looking at monkeys at a zoo.


    'Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym.'


    Have you heard about...


    Sep 13, 2024 · Illia 'Golem' Yefimchyk, known as the world's 'most
    monstrous bodybuilder,' died on Sept. 8, 2024 at the age of 36 after
    suffering a heart ...



    If you understand Physics...the heart needs to keep pumping blood..


    and guys who go to gym need to
    first get real fat and turn that lard hard!

    Muscles is fat hard lard.


    Heart pumping blood is a function that keeps lifeforms on
    earth...alive.


    Bumball, dats what i see passing by a gym window...a bunch of dumbells >>> with nothing to do wil dumb looks on their faces.


    It's a zoo!


    Look! She's walking!! standing still...wow!



    Are you bulletproof????










    I never go to Gym. It is just the place to catch Covid.

    Yeah, FAT people should stay away from gyms...

    i head Covid kills fat people mostly.


    How fat are you?




    I'm not fat at all.


    Yeaahhh, you're probably not fat...i don't see that many fag fatsos out
    there.






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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Jan 30 11:18:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 10:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!! >>>
    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the
    head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the
    outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals
    and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite
    positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.

    Did you know Bill Gates has autism?



    I have never read or heard of that, yet when I saw the first interview
    of his (in 1990s) I became confident he was Asperger.

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/bill-gates-likely-had-autism-child-reveals-wasnt-widely-understood


    I'm Asperger myself.

    Oh, you're sick in the head too!

    can you count backwards from a million??


    Bill Gates is also left handed...retard. All left handed people are
    retarded.





    I don't miss the abundance of clues when others
    display it. But the Einstein case I did miss because my mind never
    addressed him in a casual open to anything mode. It was always in some fashion or form a scholastic reference.


    are you left handed?


    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Bertietaylor@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Jan 31 08:44:52 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 19:55:20 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/30/25 1:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 10:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!! >>>>>>
    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the >>>>>> head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the >>>>> outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals >>>>> and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite >>>>> positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.

    Did you know Bill Gates has autism?



    I have never read or heard of that, yet when I saw the first interview
    of his (in 1990s) I became confident he was Asperger.

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/bill-gates-likely-had-autism-child-reveals-wasnt-widely-understood


    I'm Asperger myself.

    Oh, you're sick in the head too!

    can you count backwards from a million??


    Bill Gates is also left handed...retard. All left handed people are
    retarded.





    I don't miss the abundance of clues when others
    display it. But the Einstein case I did miss because my mind never
    addressed him in a casual open to anything mode. It was always in some
    fashion or form a scholastic reference.


    are you left handed?



    No. But you sure as hell are type 4 autistic (petty criminals). Even at
    the age of 0.6 you were a done deal.

    Still around, Roachie? Trump's minions are not efficient, evidently.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri Jan 31 01:40:00 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!!

    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals
    and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.

    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...

    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.

    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    Now, there was a time when Dinosaurs ruled the earth...without the need
    for any 'math and science'...


    and since humans make up just 0.01% of life on earth, there isn't any
    use for 'math and science' with all the other creatures.


    they can live without it..











    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Jan 31 10:43:01 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/31/25 3:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism..
    it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!! >>>>
    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the
    head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the
    outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals >>> and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite
    positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.

    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...

    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.

    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    Now, there was a time when Dinosaurs ruled the earth...without the need
    for any 'math and science'...


    and since humans make up just 0.01% of life on earth, there isn't any
    use for 'math and science' with all the other creatures.


    they can live without it..






    They make use of it in a different way. They use math and science indeed.

    Do you know what a cerebellum is?



    With the thoughts I'd be thinkin',
    I could be another Lincoln,
    If I only had a brainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Jan 31 13:47:20 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/31/25 12:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/31/25 3:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/27/25 12:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    I would say there is a lot of back ass ward thinking here...



    but if you get your science from someone suffering with autism.. >>>>>> it's like Steve Jobs on acid!

    Take some LSD and of course the whole planet and universe...curves!!!! >>>>>>
    Take some LDS and look at the floor...watch it curve.


    When you get your information from someone who is fucked up in the >>>>>> head...


    You want to learn Relativity? Just drop some acid.

    Hahhahahhahh :-) ..

    Being autistic doesn't necessarily mean a fuck up. It depends on the >>>>> outcome. If outcome is bad, like in the "engineers" and petty criminals >>>>> and those who kill themselves or others, then it is a fuck up. If
    outcome is ok, like in scientists and Aspergers, then result is quite >>>>> positive.

    Einstein was an Asperger.

    I didn't say a "fuck up", I said... fucked up in the
    head...

    meaning, needs a cure. sick in the head.

    Being great with math and science because of autism means 'math and science' is a sickness.

    Now, there was a time when Dinosaurs ruled the earth...without the need >>> for any 'math and science'...


    and since humans make up just 0.01% of life on earth, there isn't any
    use for 'math and science' with all the other creatures.


    they can live without it..






    They make use of it in a different way. They use math and science indeed. >>
    Do you know what a cerebellum is?



    With the thoughts I'd be thinkin',
    I could be another Lincoln,
    If I only had a brainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.


    Lincoln is not good enough for you in this forum. Go back to your Church.

    45888888888888889+


    There is no God.

    Church is a hospitol for sinners...


    Thou shall steal.

    Thou shall bang your neighbors wife...




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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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