• The singularity is at the end of the rainbow

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 26 01:07:22 2025
    How it started:

    We are the last.
    The last generation to be unaugmented.
    The last generation to be intellectually alone.
    The last generation to be limited by our bodies.

    We are the first.
    The first generation to be augmented.
    The first generation to be intellectually together.
    The first generation to be limited only by our imaginations.

    How its going:

    The current discourse around AI and computation seems
    to be shifting from the singularity (a hypothetical
    moment when AI surpasses human intelligence in all
    areas) to breaking computational and conceptual
    walls—addressing the limits and bottlenecks that
    arise in computational and cognitive systems.

    Herbert Simon’s work on bounded rationality
    acknowledges that human decision-making is constrained
    by cognitive limits. In AI, we're now grappling with
    these conceptual walls—AI has its own limits based
    on algorithms, models, and theoretical understanding
    of computation.

    Even with novel algorithms, some fundamental barriers
    remain due to the intrinsic hardness of certain problems.
    This could be because of lower bounds on algorithmic
    complexity or because the problem requires exponential
    time to solve, regardless of how you design
    the algorithm.

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  • From x@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Mon Jan 27 17:11:02 2025
    On 1/25/25 16:07, Mild Shock wrote:

    How it started:

    We are the last.
    The last generation to be unaugmented.
    The last generation to be intellectually alone.
    The last generation to be limited by our bodies.

    We are the first.
    The first generation to be augmented.
    The first generation to be intellectually together.
    The first generation to be limited only by our imaginations.

    How its going:

    The current discourse around AI and computation seems
    to be shifting from the singularity (a hypothetical
    moment when AI surpasses human intelligence in all
    areas) to breaking computational and conceptual
    walls—addressing the limits and bottlenecks that
    arise in computational and cognitive systems.

    Herbert Simon’s work on bounded rationality
    acknowledges that human decision-making is constrained
    by cognitive limits. In AI, we're now grappling with
    these conceptual walls—AI has its own limits based
    on algorithms, models, and theoretical understanding
    of computation.

    Even with novel algorithms, some fundamental barriers
    remain due to the intrinsic hardness of certain problems.
    This could be because of lower bounds on algorithmic
    complexity or because the problem requires exponential
    time to solve, regardless of how you design
    the algorithm.

    Yea, the Von Neumann bottleneck is a basic constraint on
    sequential algorithms.

    As for mind uploading, that would require advanced microscopy.

    I am not sure if anyone has ever taught any worm or jellyfish
    anything basic, and then done microscopy on the nervous system
    of any animal to determine if one organism had been taught and
    learned that something specific and another organism had not.

    Humans are defective housings for intelligence in an array of
    ways. One of them is that animals tend to have a set lifespan
    at which they tend to degenerate and die. At that point their
    bodies tend to decompose and be eaten by other organisms.
    The brains of people on death without any preservation tend
    to be eaten by maggots when buried if they are not cremated.
    Being eaten by maggots tends to destroy any residual information
    that could be left in the interconnections of the neurons that
    had built up in the nervous system when the organism was alive.

    A little less than half of all people die of some sort of
    cancer in the present. It is not obvious to what extent life
    extension could be effective. There is some speculation that
    some types of crocodiles do not have a maximum lifespan.
    Rather they eat until they grow too large for their environment
    to support them.

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