• S paceTime

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 2 20:30:23 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing, and math is not science.

    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    So, they made up spacetime, and threw lines it it!

    Straight lines, curved lines, spacetime got it all!!!!

    Fuck it, throw in the kitchen sink while you at it...


    Do cats walk a straight line?


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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 08:06:15 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing


    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.


    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.





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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sun Feb 2 23:39:13 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 09:34:23 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Am Montag000003, 03.02.2025 um 05:30 schrieb The Starmaker:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing, and math is not science.


    Our world we live in is a subset of spacetime under the condition, that
    time is local and all places have their own local time.

    We would need to 'integrate' our own world into hyperspace and try to
    estimate, how the superset 'spacetime' to our observable world is
    composed, by testing, which superset would look like our observable world.

    I had the idea, that (local) time would be best described by an
    imaginary number and the axes of euclidean space by real numbers.

    This could be a certain kind of a quaternion, which needs imaginary
    numbers in the scalar part.

    Such quaternions are called 'Bi-quaternions', which can have complex
    numbers in all four positions.


    Now we are as observers somewhere, where time is locally an imaginary
    number, hence the axes of space are reals.

    This is how our local environment looks like and as were are also
    observers and somehow here, we could assume, the superset to our world
    (which is also called 'spacetime') is built from Bi-quaternions.

    In a way, that would be a 'mathematical superspace', sure.

    Don't know, whether or not this is satisfying, but I cannot change that
    anyhow.

    ...


    TH

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 12:10:08 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??


    A photo - why not. https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.






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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Feb 3 10:34:56 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not. https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 19:45:01 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.





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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Feb 3 10:52:32 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 20:43:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it >>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?


    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Feb 3 12:41:52 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it >>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in
    space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 22:44:31 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it >>>>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or >>>>> Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.









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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Feb 3 14:14:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it >>>>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's >>>>> straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or >>>>> Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.



    You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself

    In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion.

    https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ=
    https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup


    put a man's ruler on it and measure it.












    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 23:28:44 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 23:14, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!" >>>>>>>>>>>

    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space. >>>>>>>>>>
    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it >>>>>>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>>> the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's >>>>>>> straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or >>>>>>> Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in >>> space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.



    You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself

    In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion.

    https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ=
    https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup


    put a man's ruler on it and measure it.

    Oh, for sure they're not perfect straight lines.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Feb 3 18:10:14 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 23:14, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!" >>>>>>>>>>>

    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space. >>>>>>>>>>
    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>>> the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's >>>>>>> straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or >>>>>>> Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in >>> space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.



    You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself

    In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion.

    https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ=
    https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup


    put a man's ruler on it and measure it.

    Oh, for sure they're not perfect straight lines.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.

    This isn't about a perfect or imperfect world...

    it's about Euclidean geometry.


    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.













    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Feb 3 21:50:56 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 23:14, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!" >>>>>>>>>>>

    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space. >>>>>>>>>>
    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>>> the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's >>>>>>> straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>
    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in
    space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.



    You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself

    In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion.

    https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ=
    https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup


    put a man's ruler on it and measure it.

    Oh, for sure they're not perfect straight lines.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.

    This isn't about a perfect or imperfect world...

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    and since Euclidean geometry is 'just a theory'...that means SpaceTime
    is just a theory.







    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 4 07:25:31 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 04.02.2025 o 06:50, The Starmaker pisze:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 23:14, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>>>>>> the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's >>>>>>>>>> straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>>>>
    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in >>>>>> space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.



    You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself

    In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion.

    https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ=
    https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup


    put a man's ruler on it and measure it.

    Oh, for sure they're not perfect straight lines.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.

    This isn't about a perfect or imperfect world...

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    and since Euclidean geometry is 'just a theory'...that means SpaceTime
    is just a theory.

    Theories are word puzzles and words are words.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bertietaylor@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Feb 4 09:50:14 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:52:32 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist.

    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!"


    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space.

    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it >>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler
    the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler

    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?
    Always.






    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Feb 9 23:30:35 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 23:14, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze:
    Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!" >>>>>>>>>>>

    It's just a madeup thing.


    So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing

    It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to
    pretend their shit is math, to improve
    its authority.

    , and math is not science.

    It is.


    There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space. >>>>>>>>>>
    There are.

    Do cats walk a straight line?

    On a short distance, sometimes.







    Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it
    maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet??

    A photo - why not.
    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>>> the edges of those rulers are straight lines.


    I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's
    straight lines.

    Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or
    Earth if you prefer.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler >>>>>>
    Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me.






    Straight lines are an invention of...Man.


    To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines?

    Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.


    Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in
    space, or
    on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it?

    Sure.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees
    My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler,
    sorry.



    You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself

    In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion.

    https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ=
    https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup


    put a man's ruler on it and measure it.

    Oh, for sure they're not perfect straight lines.
    Nothing is perfect in the real world.

    This isn't about a perfect or imperfect world...

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.


    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.


    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
    Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.


    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the
    Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.


    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved
    lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical geometry.


    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.


    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!



    Don't you guys got anything ...real????



    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30
    chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.



    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't
    heard anything.


    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.



    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.














    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 01:48:35 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
    time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities
    and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded
    as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of
    geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are
    regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."


    "space and time are considered as separate entities"



    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
    Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30
    chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Feb 11 09:57:11 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein
    writes it)

    it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And
    it also is biased towards Einstein.


    The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."

    Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no existence out there, anywhere.

    It's all in the mind.




    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities
    and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded
    as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of
    geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    "space and time are considered as separate entities"

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30
    chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Feb 11 10:58:58 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Now, the very next sentence reads: "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."


    Everybody knows the smartest person in the world EVER is Newton.


    "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."


    'space and time are separate entities'


    "as obvious to any competent observer."







    The Starmaker wrote:

    the it reads: "...ncludes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.."

    Yet Einstein admits that he cannot explain in words what the "fourth dimension", or even the third dimension.

    (or anyone else for that matter)

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein writes it)

    it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And
    it also is biased towards Einstein.

    The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."

    Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no existence out there, anywhere.

    It's all in the mind.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    "space and time are considered as separate entities"

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
    Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical
    geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30 chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't
    heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Feb 11 10:33:08 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    the it reads: "...ncludes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.."

    Yet Einstein admits that he cannot explain in words what the "fourth dimension", or even the third dimension.

    (or anyone else for that matter)


    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein
    writes it)

    it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And
    it also is biased towards Einstein.

    The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."

    Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no existence out there, anywhere.

    It's all in the mind.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded
    as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    "space and time are considered as separate entities"

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30 chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Feb 11 11:33:27 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Okay, let's jump to Einstein...

    The first BIG LIE is..."In Einstein’s concept of the physical
    universe,..."


    "concept" relates to the mind, and "physical" relates to concrete
    bodies, concept is relating to the mind as oppsed to the concrete
    physical bodies.


    The author of the definition is pulling a 'fast one'.


    You cannot trust these motherfuckers.


    and injects:

    based on a system of geometry , space and time are entwined,..."



    "entwined"?? oh, oh...here come the curves!




    There are no straight lines or curves in the physical universe...it
    exist Only In The Mind.



    That is just a concept/theory/opinion/hypothesis, etc.



    "In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,..." translates to...



    "In Einstein’s opinion of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s notion of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s theory of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s view of the physical universe,..."


    Nothing is real.


    Oh my gawd, I'm getting strangled in spacetime by twined vines!


    The web of the universe is of a mingles yarn...





    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, the very next sentence reads: "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."

    Everybody knows the smartest person in the world EVER is Newton.

    "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."

    'space and time are separate entities'

    "as obvious to any competent observer."

    The Starmaker wrote:

    the it reads: "...ncludes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.."

    Yet Einstein admits that he cannot explain in words what the "fourth dimension", or even the third dimension.

    (or anyone else for that matter)

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein writes it)

    it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And
    it also is biased towards Einstein.

    The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."

    Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no existence out there, anywhere.

    It's all in the mind.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
    time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities
    and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    "space and time are considered as separate entities"

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
    Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical
    geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30 chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't
    heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Thu Feb 13 21:17:41 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    There should be a Law, or a Rule...

    that the word "concept" actually means the same thing as the word "opinion".


    "In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,.."

    The Law, or a Rule...should be mandated that the word:OPINION should be
    written befome making any statement by Albert Einstein.


    OPINION: In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, space and time are regarded as entwined.


    OPINION
    OPINION
    OPINION

    to prevent misinformation.


    From now on from this day forward, if anyone post a statment made by Albert Einstein, it should be first followed
    with the word.

    OPINION:



    Because, that's all it is...an Opinion.


    Not worth the paper it is written on.


    For example...

    OPINION: 'Nothing travel faster than the speed of light.'



    OPINION: "Time and space are modes by which we think and not conditions in which we live."

    OPINION: "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once."

    OPINION: "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it’s longer than any hour. That’s relativity."

    OPINION: "Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That’s relativity."

    OPINION: "The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."

    OPINION: "There is no absolute space and absolute time. Time and space are relative to the observer."

    OPINION: "An observer who is in relative motion with respect to another will experience time and space differently."

    OPINION: "A hundred times a day I remind myself that my inner and outer life depend on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received."

    OPINION: "Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind before the age of eighteen."

    OPINION: "Space-time does not claim existence on its own but only as a structural quality of the field."

    OPINION: "The special theory of relativity owes its origins to Maxwell’s equations of the electromagnetic field."

    OPINION: "Since the mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity, I do not understand it myself anymore."

    OPINION: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

    OPINION: "If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts."

    OPINION: "It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing."

    OPINION: "Time and space are fused together in a four-dimensional continuum known as space-time."

    OPINION: "In the framework of general relativity, space-time tells matter how to move, and matter tells space-time how to curve."

    OPINION: "The speed of light is the same for all observers, no matter how they are moving."

    OPINION: "The more successful the quantum theory is, the sillier it looks."

    OPINION: "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."


    Do I make myself clear?








    The Starmaker wrote:

    Okay, let's jump to Einstein...

    The first BIG LIE is..."In Einstein’s concept of the physical
    universe,..."

    "concept" relates to the mind, and "physical" relates to concrete
    bodies, concept is relating to the mind as oppsed to the concrete
    physical bodies.

    The author of the definition is pulling a 'fast one'.

    You cannot trust these motherfuckers.

    and injects:

    based on a system of geometry , space and time are entwined,..."

    "entwined"?? oh, oh...here come the curves!

    There are no straight lines or curves in the physical universe...it
    exist Only In The Mind.

    That is just a concept/theory/opinion/hypothesis, etc.

    "In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,..." translates to...

    "In Einstein’s opinion of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s notion of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s theory of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s view of the physical universe,..."

    Nothing is real.

    Oh my gawd, I'm getting strangled in spacetime by twined vines!

    The web of the universe is of a mingles yarn...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, the very next sentence reads: "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."

    Everybody knows the smartest person in the world EVER is Newton.

    "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."

    'space and time are separate entities'

    "as obvious to any competent observer."

    The Starmaker wrote:

    the it reads: "...ncludes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of time.."

    Yet Einstein admits that he cannot explain in words what the "fourth dimension", or even the third dimension.

    (or anyone else for that matter)

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein writes it)

    it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And it also is biased towards Einstein.

    The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."

    Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no
    existence out there, anywhere.

    It's all in the mind.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
    time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities
    and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded
    as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    "space and time are considered as separate entities"

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
    Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the
    Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical
    geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30 chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't
    heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 16:13:36 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Le 14/02/2025 à 07:05, Physfitfreak a écrit :
    On 2/13/25 11:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

    Do I make myself clear?

    Not really.

    What must be understood is that the theory of relativity is basically
    true, but so misunderstood and poorly taught that it all becomes
    appalling.
    This poses two problems; one which is benign, and which is the writing of
    a whole new theory to be rewritten, or rather to be corrected.
    A theory capable of explaining things with extraordinary simplicity.
    Someone who has read Doctor Richard Hachel, helped by artificial
    intelligence can easily, very easily do it.
    The other is immense, colossal, and goes beyond the scientific framework
    to enter the psychological or even theological framework.
    "Certainly, it is magnificent, no one has understood RR better than him,
    and no one has taught it as clearly as he. But we do not want this man to
    reign over us".

    The die is cast.

    R.H.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Fri Feb 14 11:35:53 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 14/02/2025 à 07:05, Physfitfreak a écrit :
    On 2/13/25 11:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

    Do I make myself clear?

    Not really.

    What must be understood is that the theory of relativity is basically
    true, but so misunderstood and poorly taught that it all becomes
    appalling.
    This poses two problems; one which is benign, and which is the writing of
    a whole new theory to be rewritten, or rather to be corrected.
    A theory capable of explaining things with extraordinary simplicity.
    Someone who has read Doctor Richard Hachel, helped by artificial
    intelligence can easily, very easily do it.
    The other is immense, colossal, and goes beyond the scientific framework
    to enter the psychological or even theological framework.
    "Certainly, it is magnificent, no one has understood RR better than him,
    and no one has taught it as clearly as he. But we do not want this man to reign over us".

    The die is cast.

    R.H.


    "basically true"???? Which part ISN'T mostly True?


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Feb 15 00:10:23 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The bottom line is that you have two different opinions:

    Newton says space and time are two separate entities.

    Einstein’s sez space and time are two entwined entities.


    Newton's is based on ...observation, and

    Einstein's is based on...imaginary mathematical straight lines and
    curves.


    One of them is ...wrong.





    The Starmaker wrote:

    There should be a Law, or a Rule...

    that the word "concept" actually means the same thing as the word "opinion".

    "In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,.."

    The Law, or a Rule...should be mandated that the word:OPINION should be written befome making any statement by Albert Einstein.

    OPINION: In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, space and time are regarded as entwined.

    OPINION
    OPINION
    OPINION

    to prevent misinformation.

    From now on from this day forward, if anyone post a statment made by Albert Einstein, it should be first followed
    with the word.

    OPINION:

    Because, that's all it is...an Opinion.

    Not worth the paper it is written on.

    For example...

    OPINION: 'Nothing travel faster than the speed of light.'

    OPINION: "Time and space are modes by which we think and not conditions in which we live."

    OPINION: "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once."

    OPINION: "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it’s longer than any hour. That’s relativity."

    OPINION: "Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That’s relativity."

    OPINION: "The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."

    OPINION: "There is no absolute space and absolute time. Time and space are relative to the observer."

    OPINION: "An observer who is in relative motion with respect to another will experience time and space differently."

    OPINION: "A hundred times a day I remind myself that my inner and outer life depend on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received."

    OPINION: "Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind before the age of eighteen."

    OPINION: "Space-time does not claim existence on its own but only as a structural quality of the field."

    OPINION: "The special theory of relativity owes its origins to Maxwell’s equations of the electromagnetic field."

    OPINION: "Since the mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity, I do not understand it myself anymore."

    OPINION: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

    OPINION: "If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts."

    OPINION: "It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing."

    OPINION: "Time and space are fused together in a four-dimensional continuum known as space-time."

    OPINION: "In the framework of general relativity, space-time tells matter how to move, and matter tells space-time how to curve."

    OPINION: "The speed of light is the same for all observers, no matter how they are moving."

    OPINION: "The more successful the quantum theory is, the sillier it looks."

    OPINION: "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."

    Do I make myself clear?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Okay, let's jump to Einstein...

    The first BIG LIE is..."In Einstein’s concept of the physical
    universe,..."

    "concept" relates to the mind, and "physical" relates to concrete
    bodies, concept is relating to the mind as oppsed to the concrete
    physical bodies.

    The author of the definition is pulling a 'fast one'.

    You cannot trust these motherfuckers.

    and injects:

    based on a system of geometry , space and time are entwined,..."

    "entwined"?? oh, oh...here come the curves!

    There are no straight lines or curves in the physical universe...it
    exist Only In The Mind.

    That is just a concept/theory/opinion/hypothesis, etc.

    "In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,..." translates to...

    "In Einstein’s opinion of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s notion of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s theory of the physical universe,..."
    "In Einstein’s view of the physical universe,..."

    Nothing is real.

    Oh my gawd, I'm getting strangled in spacetime by twined vines!

    The web of the universe is of a mingles yarn...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, the very next sentence reads: "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."

    Everybody knows the smartest person in the world EVER is Newton.

    "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."

    'space and time are separate entities'

    "as obvious to any competent observer."

    The Starmaker wrote:

    the it reads: "...ncludes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
    time.."

    Yet Einstein admits that he cannot explain in words what the "fourth dimension", or even the third dimension.

    (or anyone else for that matter)

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein
    writes it)

    it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And
    it also is biased towards Einstein.

    The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."

    Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no
    existence out there, anywhere.

    It's all in the mind.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":

    space–time

    "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
    time.
    In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities
    and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded
    as obvious to any competent observer.
    In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of
    geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are
    regarded as entwined,
    so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the
    simultaneity of distant events.
    In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a
    fourdimensional continuum."

    "space and time are considered as separate entities"

    it's about Euclidean geometry.

    Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.

    In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.

    Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
    Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.

    The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the
    Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination called, SpaceTime.

    SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved
    lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical
    geometry.

    Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.

    Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!

    Don't you guys got anything ...real????

    Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30
    chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.

    Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't
    heard anything.

    Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.

    Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Feb 15 00:12:36 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 14/02/2025 à 07:05, Physfitfreak a écrit :
    On 2/13/25 11:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

    Do I make myself clear?

    Not really.

    What must be understood is that the theory of relativity is basically
    true, but so misunderstood and poorly taught that it all becomes
    appalling.
    This poses two problems; one which is benign, and which is the writing of
    a whole new theory to be rewritten, or rather to be corrected.
    A theory capable of explaining things with extraordinary simplicity. Someone who has read Doctor Richard Hachel, helped by artificial intelligence can easily, very easily do it.
    The other is immense, colossal, and goes beyond the scientific framework
    to enter the psychological or even theological framework.
    "Certainly, it is magnificent, no one has understood RR better than him, and no one has taught it as clearly as he. But we do not want this man to reign over us".

    The die is cast.

    R.H.

    "basically true"???? Which part ISN'T mostly True?



    In other words, What isn't true?


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Feb 15 21:44:01 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 2/15/25 2:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The bottom line is that you have two different opinions:

    Newton says space and time are two separate entities.

    Einstein’s sez space and time are two entwined entities.

    You need to replace the word "entity" with "physical quantities". That's
    how they're referred in physics.

    But outside physics tools and procedures, time and "change" and ...
    anything requiring a memory mechanism activity inside a life form, is meaningless. They're just fixtures concocted by some life forms only,
    and only exists inside them. They didn't decide to create and use such concept either. It just happened that those who had a thing about it,
    got to last better than those who didn't.

    You're a life form, Star :)

    I can only go by the official words of Physics that 'they' used:entities


    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up




    space—time (space-time continuum) "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a

    fourth dimension of time. In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities and whether or not events are simultaneous is
    a matter that is regarded as obvious to any competent observer. In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a
    system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864—1909), space and time are regarded as entwined, so that two observers
    in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events. In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."



    Are they any 'competent observers' in this newsgroups?



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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 16 09:13:43 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Am Sonntag000016, 16.02.2025 um 06:44 schrieb The Starmaker:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 2/15/25 2:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The bottom line is that you have two different opinions:

    Newton says space and time are two separate entities.

    Einstein’s sez space and time are two entwined entities.

    You need to replace the word "entity" with "physical quantities". That's
    how they're referred in physics.

    But outside physics tools and procedures, time and "change" and ...
    anything requiring a memory mechanism activity inside a life form, is
    meaningless. They're just fixtures concocted by some life forms only,
    and only exists inside them. They didn't decide to create and use such
    concept either. It just happened that those who had a thing about it,
    got to last better than those who didn't.

    You're a life form, Star :)

    I can only go by the official words of Physics that 'they' used:entities


    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up




    space—time (space-time continuum) "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a

    fourth dimension of time. In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities and whether or not events are simultaneous is
    a matter that is regarded as obvious to any competent observer. In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a
    system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864—1909), space and time are regarded as entwined, so that two observers
    in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events. In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."




    Time is not a dimension of spacetime!

    The word dimension means in connection to space something like 'distance'.

    'spacetime' is therefore NOT something like 'Euclidean space plus time'!

    In fact time is not really a spatial dimension, because we cannot move
    in time. Actually we are bound to what is called 'now' and past and
    future are just imaginary.

    Actually time itself is imaginary, what could be understood as
    'rotation' by the imaginary unit i, which is equivalent to 90°.

    This could be seen the other way round and we have the antagonistic
    behavior of space, which is therefore real (valued) for any given axis
    of time.

    Now spacetime does not have four dimensions, because the word
    'dimension' (of space) refers to the subset of spacetime we call 'space'.

    In fact spacetime has more dimensions then four, because we could use
    'complex four vectors' (aka 'biquaternions') as pointlike elements of spacetime, which have eight components.

    For any given axis of time this splits into space and time, which
    creates also an imaginary 'anti-world', where time runs seemingly backwards.

    This entire thing is then 'spacetime' and each element has eight
    components, which we could call 'dimensions' (in a mathematical way).

    TH

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Feb 16 17:23:48 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 2/15/25 2:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The bottom line is that you have two different opinions:

    Newton says space and time are two separate entities.

    Einstein’s sez space and time are two entwined entities.

    You need to replace the word "entity" with "physical quantities". That's how they're referred in physics.

    But outside physics tools and procedures, time and "change" and ... anything requiring a memory mechanism activity inside a life form, is meaningless. They're just fixtures concocted by some life forms only,
    and only exists inside them. They didn't decide to create and use such concept either. It just happened that those who had a thing about it,
    got to last better than those who didn't.

    You're a life form, Star :)

    I can only go by the official words of Physics that 'they' used:entities

    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up

    space—time (space-time continuum) "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a

    fourth dimension of time. In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities and whether or not events are simultaneous is
    a matter that is regarded as obvious to any competent observer. In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a
    system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864—1909), space and time are regarded as entwined, so that two observers
    in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events. In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    Are they any 'competent observers' in this newsgroups?



    Keep in mind that the Official definition of the word 'spacetime' contains two opposing opinions,

    one that space and time are separate, and the other that space and time are linked.

    That means that it's definion has 'not yet' been settled.


    Wagner's IQ was 190

    Einstein's IQ was 160


    Einstein is incompetent..he reached his level of incompetence.


    Let me put it simply this way...

    if our Sun were to simply disapear..
    out Earth will feel it's disaperance..immeditaly, ...not minutes later.


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Feb 16 18:59:54 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 2/15/25 2:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The bottom line is that you have two different opinions:

    Newton says space and time are two separate entities.

    Einstein’s sez space and time are two entwined entities.

    You need to replace the word "entity" with "physical quantities". That's how they're referred in physics.

    But outside physics tools and procedures, time and "change" and ... anything requiring a memory mechanism activity inside a life form, is meaningless. They're just fixtures concocted by some life forms only,
    and only exists inside them. They didn't decide to create and use such concept either. It just happened that those who had a thing about it,
    got to last better than those who didn't.

    You're a life form, Star :)

    I can only go by the official words of Physics that 'they' used:entities

    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up

    https://archive.org/details/a-dictionary-of-physics/page/n841/mode/2up

    space—time (space-time continuum) "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a

    fourth dimension of time. In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities and whether or not events are simultaneous is
    a matter that is regarded as obvious to any competent observer. In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a
    system of geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864—1909), space and time are regarded as entwined, so that two observers
    in relative motion could disagree regarding the simultaneity of distant events. In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a fourdimensional continuum."

    Are they any 'competent observers' in this newsgroups?


    Keep in mind that the Official definition of the word 'spacetime' contains two opposing opinions,

    one that space and time are separate, and the other that space and time are linked.

    That means that it's definion has 'not yet' been settled.

    I. Newton's's IQ was 190

    Einstein's IQ was 160

    Einstein is incompetent..he reached his level of incompetence.

    Let me put it simply this way...

    if our Sun were to simply disapear..
    out Earth will feel it's disaperance..immeditaly, ...not minutes later.

    --


    I. Newton's IQ was 190

    A. Einstein's IQ was 160

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 07:44:16 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    W dniu 16.02.2025 o 21:54, Physfitfreak pisze:
    On 2/15/25 11:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

    Are they any 'competent observers' in this newsgroups?



    Yes, my dick.

    Oxford speaks in the English language, not in physics language. The word "entity" does not exist in physics.

    Too bad that the world doesn't end on your
    moronic physics.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 07:55:23 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Am Montag000017, 17.02.2025 um 05:13 schrieb Physfitfreak:
    On 2/16/25 9:47 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/16/25 9:42 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    My guess is that the information of its disappearance will travel
    towards Earth at, or below, the light's speed (i.e. max speed for any
    physical quantity) and when it reaches Earth, the path of Earth
    motion becomes almost linear from that moment on.


    Actually it can crush the Earth into pieces because parts of the Earth
    closer to the absent Sun's position will begin moving linearly while
    the rest of the Earth still continues on the usual orbit. So a
    crushing of Earth into itself will take place for a couple of seconds
    or so.




    This could actually be one of the sources of earthquakes on Earth. When
    Sun quickly gives off huge masses in some of its storms, the resulting
    change in gravity will hit the closer parts of the Earth first before traveling through its diameter. So parts of the earth crashes against
    itself as the tiny change of the orbit passes through the entire mass of Earth.

    My guess about earthquakes was long ago:

    Earthquakes come actually from the Sun and are related to conductivity
    of the ground in faults, where the Birkeland currents (which are powered
    by magnetic connection of Sun and Earth) induce currents into the ground.

    The currents in that fault lines provide tension to the surrounding
    material, which is less conducting and which is therefore subject to
    high electric tension.

    This causes an 'inverted piezo effect', which makes the soil shake.

    We could see this effect in several instances, where Solar eclipses
    played a role in earthquakes or where 'electric' effects occurred in the
    sky.

    Also water near mountains seemingly has an influence, because water
    conducts, too.

    Earthquakes have also not the typical scratching sound, but have a
    relatively long phase, where the Earth shakes with almost the same
    amplitude and frequency.

    Therefor my assumption was, that earthquakes are in fact 'electric' and
    their power stems from the sun.

    TH

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