• Divide, Conquer and Loose [Limitations of AI]

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 16:03:47 2025
    Hi,

    Now history repeats itself. There are
    many pseudo software engineering program
    verification papers, that say, just chop

    up a problem, and solve each part separately,
    and put the things together. Which is utter
    nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver,

    the smallest unit is the propositional variable
    you cannot solve it independently, only
    "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to

    NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos
    Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is
    is the author of the textbook Computational

    Complexity, one of the most widely used
    textbooks in the field of computational
    complexity theory. Might be the cure for

    any singularity and AGI dreams:

    Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations
    Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and
    his team proved mathematically that there may
    be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional
    task-solving abilities https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/

    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Mon Feb 10 12:32:34 2025
    Hi,

    Most schools don't make sense. Even delegating
    training to AI doesn't make any sense. The
    idea of "understanding" is nonsense.

    The old style of like "understanding" grammar and
    lexicon, its all delivered by AI now. Because language
    has so many exceptions, your brain trains like

    a ChatGPT pre-trains. Schools need a new model of
    A work-first, school-second approach could:

    - Ensure learning is immediately applicable,
    not just theoretical.

    - Reduce the disconnect between school and
    the real economy.

    - Keep motivation high—people learn better when
    they see direct relevance.

    - Allow for continuous adaptation, rather than
    relying on outdated curricula.

    You see this in all USENET forums. People discuss
    nonsense like set theory or whether wave function
    is real or not. They have no clue what the

    applications are. Universities need also change,
    more lab work, more group work, more industry
    work. USA has become a swamp of idiots.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now history repeats itself. There are
    many pseudo software engineering program
    verification papers, that say, just chop

    up a problem, and solve each part separately,
    and put the things together. Which is utter
    nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver,

    the smallest unit is the propositional variable
    you cannot solve it independently, only
    "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to

    NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos
    Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is
    is the author of the textbook Computational

    Complexity, one of the most widely used
    textbooks in the field of computational
    complexity theory. Might be the cure for

    any singularity and AGI dreams:

    Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations
    Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and
    his team proved mathematically that there may
    be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional
    task-solving abilities https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/


    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Mon Feb 10 21:21:04 2025
    Hi,

    India & France had their AI Bikini Moment.
    Facinating behavior:

    Macron Says He And PM Modi Will Push https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwCK8yAnlkA

    But don't be fooled, things are possibly
    more connected:

    Synthesia: France's 109-billion-euro AI investment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uyo4RG0Q6I

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Most schools don't make sense. Even delegating
    training to AI doesn't make any sense. The
    idea of "understanding" is nonsense.

    The old style of like "understanding" grammar and
    lexicon, its all delivered by AI now. Because language
    has so many exceptions, your brain trains like

    a ChatGPT pre-trains. Schools need a new model of
    A work-first, school-second approach could:

    - Ensure learning is immediately applicable,
      not just theoretical.

    - Reduce the disconnect between school and
      the real economy.

    - Keep motivation high—people learn better when
      they see direct relevance.

    - Allow for continuous adaptation, rather than
      relying on outdated curricula.

    You see this in all USENET forums. People discuss
    nonsense like set theory or whether wave function
    is real or not. They have no clue what the

    applications are. Universities need also change,
    more lab work, more group work, more industry
    work. USA has become a swamp of idiots.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now history repeats itself. There are
    many pseudo software engineering program
    verification papers, that say, just chop

    up a problem, and solve each part separately,
    and put the things together. Which is utter
    nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver,

    the smallest unit is the propositional variable
    you cannot solve it independently, only
    "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to

    NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos
    Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is
    is the author of the textbook Computational

    Complexity, one of the most widely used
    textbooks in the field of computational
    complexity theory. Might be the cure for

    any singularity and AGI dreams:

    Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations
    Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and
    his team proved mathematically that there may
    be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional
    task-solving abilities
    https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/


    Bye


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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Tue Feb 11 21:47:05 2025
    Hi,

    1. Russia: Stealing data and blackmailing companies
    already for years, now selling the data all over
    the globe for pre-training

    2. China: Has the most inovative heads, that
    can sequence a LLM on a finger nail

    3. India: Gifted hackers that can write DeepSeek
    via Unix sed, 15 year olds showing machine learning
    videos already 10 years ago

    4. Europe: Everything invented anyway here

    5. USA: Sam Altman and Elon Musk having a silly feud

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now history repeats itself. There are
    many pseudo software engineering program
    verification papers, that say, just chop

    up a problem, and solve each part separately,
    and put the things together. Which is utter
    nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver,

    the smallest unit is the propositional variable
    you cannot solve it independently, only
    "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to

    NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos
    Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is
    is the author of the textbook Computational

    Complexity, one of the most widely used
    textbooks in the field of computational
    complexity theory. Might be the cure for

    any singularity and AGI dreams:

    Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations
    Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and
    his team proved mathematically that there may
    be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional
    task-solving abilities https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/


    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Feb 12 10:19:09 2025
    Hi,

    The Baby Pill killed the USA. So far the USA
    was a big slave market with constant supply
    from overpopulated Europe. This influx has now
    stopped. So we might see a decline in

    population of the USA for the first time in
    history. There are doubts that whites will
    procreate like guinea pigs. We might more see
    a decline of population together with:

    In rural areas:
    Like one can build Tesla factories where robots
    build e-cars, one can build Farm factories where
    robots rear animals. Future agentic AI will build
    these factories on their own.

    In city areas:
    The decline of population might increase job
    availablity and wages, if there wouldn't be AI again.
    Such bleak perspectives can have a negative
    effect on willingness to have a family.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    1. Russia: Stealing data and blackmailing companies
       already for years, now selling the data all over
       the globe for pre-training

    2. China: Has the most inovative heads, that
       can sequence a LLM on a finger nail

    3. India: Gifted hackers that can write DeepSeek
       via Unix sed, 15 year olds showing machine learning
       videos already 10 years ago

    4. Europe: Everything invented anyway here

    5. USA: Sam Altman and Elon Musk having a silly feud

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now history repeats itself. There are
    many pseudo software engineering program
    verification papers, that say, just chop

    up a problem, and solve each part separately,
    and put the things together. Which is utter
    nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver,

    the smallest unit is the propositional variable
    you cannot solve it independently, only
    "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to

    NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos
    Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is
    is the author of the textbook Computational

    Complexity, one of the most widely used
    textbooks in the field of computational
    complexity theory. Might be the cure for

    any singularity and AGI dreams:

    Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations
    Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and
    his team proved mathematically that there may
    be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional
    task-solving abilities
    https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/


    Bye


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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Feb 12 10:32:01 2025
    The trend already started:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
    2000 281,421,906 +13.2%
    2010 308,745,538 +9.7%
    2020 331,449,281 +7.4%
    2024 340,110,988 +2.6%

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    The Baby Pill killed the USA. So far the USA
    was a big slave market with constant supply
    from overpopulated Europe. This influx has now
    stopped. So we might see a decline in

    population of the USA for the first time in
    history. There are doubts that whites will
    procreate like guinea pigs. We might more see
    a decline of population together with:

    In rural areas:
    Like one can build Tesla factories where robots
    build e-cars, one can build Farm factories where
    robots rear animals. Future agentic AI will build
    these factories on their own.

    In city areas:
    The decline of population might increase job
    availablity and wages, if there wouldn't be AI again.
    Such bleak perspectives can have a negative
    effect on willingness to have a family.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    1. Russia: Stealing data and blackmailing companies
        already for years, now selling the data all over
        the globe for pre-training

    2. China: Has the most inovative heads, that
        can sequence a LLM on a finger nail

    3. India: Gifted hackers that can write DeepSeek
        via Unix sed, 15 year olds showing machine learning
        videos already 10 years ago

    4. Europe: Everything invented anyway here

    5. USA: Sam Altman and Elon Musk having a silly feud

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now history repeats itself. There are
    many pseudo software engineering program
    verification papers, that say, just chop

    up a problem, and solve each part separately,
    and put the things together. Which is utter
    nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver,

    the smallest unit is the propositional variable
    you cannot solve it independently, only
    "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to

    NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos
    Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is
    is the author of the textbook Computational

    Complexity, one of the most widely used
    textbooks in the field of computational
    complexity theory. Might be the cure for

    any singularity and AGI dreams:

    Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations
    Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and
    his team proved mathematically that there may
    be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional
    task-solving abilities
    https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/


    Bye



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