• Re: Money Money :-)

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Feb 26 12:44:32 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Hi,

    Ha Ha, a cro-magno trader...

    Whats the investment universum of Robinhood?

    How can somebody your "buy the dip"(*) advise take seriously?

    LoL

    Bye

    (*) My hypotheses Bitcoin goes to 30'000 USD or even 3'000 USD.

    Physfitfreak schrieb:

    What is ymmv?.. I'm not that serious about it all. I'm limited to what Robinhood can do, and that's been more than sufficient for me to pay
    some bills with.

    In good times and bad times both :) That's important.



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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Feb 26 13:33:01 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/25/25 16:25, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/25/25 3:10 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 13:59, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Both stocks and cryptos are down.

    Buying time!  :-)

    Oh, you're free to go first to try to catch a falling knife.


    Unless your wife pays your bills.

    YMMV on how much one has already moved into more conservative funds.

    Warren Buffet is at a ~30% cash position.  Based on this as a
    benchmark, are you currently more risk tolerant, or less risk tolerant?

    What is ymmv?..


    YMMV = "Your Mileage May Vary".

    It originated from the 1970s/80s EPA fuel mileage estimates and was
    adopted as USENET slang ages ago, along with 'spam' from the Monty
    Python skit, etc.


    I'm not that serious about it all. I'm limited to what Robinhood
    can do, and that's been more than sufficient for me to pay
    some bills with.

    Whatever company your brokerage happens to be isn't relevant.

    The question is what one's allocations are of various asset classes, classically being (% in Equities, % in Bonds, % in Cash, etc).

    For example, if you have a $1M net worth, half of which is a house and
    the other half is $400K in Robinhood all holding Stocks, and the
    remaining $100K is in bank accounts/CDs/Savings Bonds, then your
    investment portfolio allocations are roughly 50% Real Estate, 40%
    Equities, 10% Cash/Bonds ... -or- under the philosophy of excluding
    one's residence, its then an 80%/20% (Equities/Cash).

    In good times and bad times both :) That's important.

    The challenges are in life expectancy vs inflation, as well as how to
    fund one's late/end of life medical expenses, particularly assisted
    living.

    Fidelity Investments publishes an annual cost estimate, based on a
    65-year-old couple. This year's number is that they can expect to pay
    about $315,000 after taxes for health care costs in retirement, but they
    note that this does not include long-term care costs.

    For LTC, costs vary by region, but figure $10-$15K/month outside of
    highest cost of living areas. Average length of stay is 3.7yrs/Female & 2.2yrs/Male, so at ~3yrs, it yields a funding requirement of $360K to
    $540K .. and that's present value, after-tax, and per person.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Feb 26 16:28:01 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/26/25 15:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/26/25 12:33 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 16:25, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/25/25 3:10 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 13:59, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Both stocks and cryptos are down.

    Buying time!  :-)

    Oh, you're free to go first to try to catch a falling knife.


    Unless your wife pays your bills.

    YMMV on how much one has already moved into more conservative funds.

    Warren Buffet is at a ~30% cash position.  Based on this as a
    benchmark, are you currently more risk tolerant, or less risk tolerant? >>>
    What is ymmv?..


    YMMV = "Your Mileage May Vary".

    It originated from the 1970s/80s EPA fuel mileage estimates and was
    adopted as USENET slang ages ago, along with 'spam' from the Monty
    Python skit, etc.


    I'm not that serious about it all. I'm limited to what Robinhood can
    do, and that's been more than sufficient for me to pay some bills with.

    Whatever company your brokerage happens to be isn't relevant.

    The question is what one's allocations are of various asset classes,
    classically being (% in Equities, % in Bonds, % in Cash, etc).

    For example, if you have a $1M net worth, half of which is a house and
    the other half is $400K in Robinhood all holding Stocks, and the
    remaining $100K is in bank accounts/CDs/Savings Bonds, then your
    investment portfolio allocations are roughly 50% Real Estate, 40%
    Equities, 10% Cash/Bonds ... -or- under the philosophy of excluding
    one's residence, its then an 80%/20% (Equities/Cash).

    In good times and bad times both :) That's important.

    The challenges are in life expectancy vs inflation, as well as how to
    fund one's late/end of life medical expenses, particularly assisted
    living.

    Fidelity Investments publishes an annual cost estimate, based on a 65-
    year-old couple.  This year's number is that they can expect to pay
    about $315,000 after taxes for health care costs in retirement, but
    they note that this does not include long-term care costs.

    For LTC, costs vary by region, but figure $10-$15K/month outside of
    highest cost of living areas.  Average length of stay is 3.7yrs/Female
    & 2.2yrs/Male, so at ~3yrs, it yields a funding requirement of $360K
    to $540K .. and that's present value, after-tax, and per person.



    Hehe :) No, not even funny. See, I didn't buy my grave lot in my 20s.

    The kind of concerns you are listing above belong to my past married
    life here and ended when we divorced. Life in Iran in old age is much
    more comfortable and dignified than in here where you essentially have institutions kill your elderly parents, and healthcare and government
    get busy devouring your elderly people's lives and belongings. This is
    not a country to die in.

    Unfortunately, quite true. Its a product of the decline of
    multi-generational families living in the same household.


    I'm in USA because my cats are in USA. And in the USA, I'm in Texas
    because my cats are in Texas. And in Texas, I'm in Dallas because my
    cats are in Dallas.

    So figure that out from there on :)

    Not really any need to, because when you're in the USA, it means that
    you're going to have to live within its operational structures. For day
    to day living, that can be independent if that's your preference, but as
    one ages, there are limitations to doing so, so one may need to decide
    for something else. Moving in with family can be an option, or perhaps
    not: that's a function of individual circumstances. Ditto for perhaps
    hosting a boarder/caregiver, etc.


    As far as "allocations" are concerned, crypto and sometimes stocks.
    That's all.

    So then ~zero liquid assets outside of one's brokerage? That appears to
    be carrying a pretty high cash flow risk.


    And it has been fun to pay some of the sillier bills with
    the use of Robinhood tools. It has been fun to pay $12 for a nice
    computer, and not $1200. Who pays $600 of earned money out of his own
    pocket for 6 months of minimum cover car insurance when I have not had a
    car accident in my entire life and a traffic ticket for decades? I like
    to have Robinhood provide those dollars. Same with other silly bills.
    $460/mo for just electricity bill in Winter months?.. Hehe :) I'll use a
    wood burner heater and make that bill $46 instead, and pay even THAT
    with Robinhood dollars :) And it's fun. My "allocations" have never been serious enough for me to ruin the life I have by putting more of my time
    and concerns into it.

    Which is all fine when one is still able to go do of that on one's own.



    Ok, I'm blabbering, in one sentence, and not a paragraph: my "net worth"
    is zero. Or might's well be zero. But I manage. And it's fun to manage
    it. Does it answer your question?

    Pretty much, for it is suggesting that your suggestion to buy on the
    drop isn't actionable by you personally, as you're suggesting that you
    don't have any liquid reserves with which to go "buy low".

    Sure, there can be speculation ...that's what RH does...with the likes
    of Margin buys, but this needs to be recognized as gambling, and
    hopefully done with highly discretionary funds, not essential living.


    If I was a person who'd put an iota of more concern in it, I would be
    another person. I'd be perhaps someone like you. In another type of
    life. But hey, I threw my PhD away for keeping myself who I am _now_.
    You think I'd waste myself with these "allocations" matters too much?

    Still, I'll keep this blog going cause the Robinhood game is fun enough
    to play.

    Its always 'fun' in an up market; “Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked” - Warren Buffett.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Feb 27 20:45:55 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/27/25 00:05, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/26/25 3:28 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/26/25 15:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/26/25 12:33 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 16:25, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/25/25 3:10 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 13:59, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Hehe :) No, not even funny. See, I didn't buy my grave lot in my 20s.

    The kind of concerns you are listing above belong to my past married
    life here and ended when we divorced. Life in Iran in old age is much
    more comfortable and dignified than in here where you essentially
    have institutions kill your elderly parents, and healthcare and
    government get busy devouring your elderly people's lives and
    belongings. This is not a country to die in.

    Unfortunately, quite true.  Its a product of the decline of multi-
    generational families living in the same household.


    I'm in USA because my cats are in USA. And in the USA, I'm in Texas
    because my cats are in Texas. And in Texas, I'm in Dallas because my
    cats are in Dallas.

    So figure that out from there on :)

    Not really any need to, because when you're in the USA, it means that
    you're going to have to live within its operational structures.  For
    day to day living, that can be independent if that's your preference,
    but as one ages, there are limitations to doing so, so one may need to
    decide for something else.  Moving in with family can be an option, or
    perhaps not: that's a function of individual circumstances.  Ditto for
    perhaps hosting a boarder/caregiver, etc.


    As far as "allocations" are concerned, crypto and sometimes stocks.
    That's all.

    So then ~zero liquid assets outside of one's brokerage?  That appears
    to be carrying a pretty high cash flow risk.


    And it has been fun to pay some of the sillier bills with the use of
    Robinhood tools. It has been fun to pay $12 for a nice computer, and
    not $1200. Who pays $600 of earned money out of his own pocket for 6
    months of minimum cover car insurance when I have not had a car
    accident in my entire life and a traffic ticket for decades? I like
    to have Robinhood provide those dollars. Same with other silly bills.
    $460/mo for just electricity bill in Winter months?.. Hehe :) I'll
    use a wood burner heater and make that bill $46 instead, and pay even
    THAT with Robinhood dollars :) And it's fun. My "allocations" have
    never been serious enough for me to ruin the life I have by putting
    more of my time and concerns into it.

    Which is all fine when one is still able to go do of that on one's own.



    Ok, I'm blabbering, in one sentence, and not a paragraph: my "net
    worth" is zero. Or might's well be zero. But I manage. And it's fun
    to manage it. Does it answer your question?

    Pretty much, for it is suggesting that your suggestion to buy on the
    drop isn't actionable by you personally, as you're suggesting that you
    don't have any liquid reserves with which to go "buy low".

    Sure, there can be speculation ...that's what RH does...with the likes
    of Margin buys, but this needs to be recognized as gambling, and
    hopefully done with highly discretionary funds, not essential living.


    If I was a person who'd put an iota of more concern in it, I would be
    another person. I'd be perhaps someone like you. In another type of
    life. But hey, I threw my PhD away for keeping myself who I am _now_.
    You think I'd waste myself with these "allocations" matters too much?

    Still, I'll keep this blog going cause the Robinhood game is fun
    enough to play.

    Its always 'fun' in an up market; “Only when the tide goes out do you
    discover who's been swimming naked” - Warren Buffett.

    -hh


    I don't use margins. It's not a sane strategy. To me it is like a
    disguised credit card use. I haven't used a credit card since late
    1980s. Star thinks I use my Mom's though :)

    Same. AFAIC, margins is gambling under a different name. It seems to
    be the purview of many (most?) Robinhood accounts, hence the comment.


    No I have the money to buy low when I think it would be rewarding. It
    would sometimes mean selling in some other areas fast to provide the
    money if I'm desperate for time. But usually I have the money.

    Specific strategies are up to individuals to decide upon, but what is
    known macroscopically is that Active managed funds do not reliably
    outperform Passive, and that's with full time professionals trying with Bloomberg terminals and all the rest to be maximally informed; regular individuals basically don't stand a chance. As such, our most reliable strategy is to "not play the game": buy & hold.


    The "net worth" I talked about includes the possibility that I wake up tomorrow and find that I've lost them all. In that sense (i.e. when you include things that can happen to it also), my net worth is zero.
    Because shit can always happen.

    When it happens, I'd still manage by beginning from zero again. As
    simple as that.

    You're saying I should be more careful.

    Nah, its up to you to decide. If you're happy taking the risk of flying
    the trapeze with no safety net, that's your call. Its not my personal
    choice because I have accepted the responsibility of caring for others
    (even when it reduces down to just cats/dogs).

    I thought you knew me better by now.

    Not really; I tend to care very little about nymshifters because they
    don't care enough about themselves to not be a chameleon. Its similar
    to a business rule of thumb: a company who changes their name does so
    because they have a bad reputation.

    It is too expensive to be more careful than this. In life's currency
    that is. It isn't worth it, in the same manner that cars who're
    priced more than $2000 aren't worth the money.

    That also depends on life choices in priorities: in life's currencies,
    there's value in having peace of mind of not having to worry about where
    one's next meal is coming from ... and just how much of a safety margin
    is merited for such uncertainties is also a personal comfort level
    choice. Having a safety margin isn't uncommon when one's been through
    rough patches where there weren't the resources for meals...or
    similarly, having a car that won't run.


    Don't forget that anybody's net worth is zero. Life's always fast
    heading that way. But some aren't aware of this and some are. Some ruin
    95% of life into "money for a better life later", and get to enjoy 5% of
    it the way they want, and some live 95% of life the way they want, and
    ruin only 5% of it for money matters.

    Another angle. Do other life forms need money? What is the "net worth"
    of a mosquito buzzing around? You can't escape the fact that life for a mosquito is every bit the same thing as life for a human.

    Now "buzz" away as I've got to feed the cats, watch a nice pirated
    movie, and hit the sack :)

    No worries - the varmints have been fed here too, obligations have been
    met for the day, and its too late to start a movie...

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Feb 28 05:55:50 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/28/25 01:31, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/27/25 7:45 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/27/25 00:05, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/26/25 3:28 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/26/25 15:13, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/26/25 12:33 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 16:25, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/25/25 3:10 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/25/25 13:59, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Hehe :) No, not even funny. See, I didn't buy my grave lot in my 20s. >>>>>
    The kind of concerns you are listing above belong to my past
    married life here and ended when we divorced. Life in Iran in old
    age is much more comfortable and dignified than in here where you
    essentially have institutions kill your elderly parents, and
    healthcare and government get busy devouring your elderly people's
    lives and belongings. This is not a country to die in.

    Unfortunately, quite true.  Its a product of the decline of multi-
    generational families living in the same household.


    I'm in USA because my cats are in USA. And in the USA, I'm in Texas
    because my cats are in Texas. And in Texas, I'm in Dallas because
    my cats are in Dallas.

    So figure that out from there on :)

    Not really any need to, because when you're in the USA, it means
    that you're going to have to live within its operational
    structures.  For day to day living, that can be independent if
    that's your preference, but as one ages, there are limitations to
    doing so, so one may need to decide for something else.  Moving in
    with family can be an option, or perhaps not: that's a function of
    individual circumstances.  Ditto for perhaps hosting a boarder/
    caregiver, etc.


    As far as "allocations" are concerned, crypto and sometimes stocks.
    That's all.

    So then ~zero liquid assets outside of one's brokerage?  That
    appears to be carrying a pretty high cash flow risk.


    And it has been fun to pay some of the sillier bills with the use
    of Robinhood tools. It has been fun to pay $12 for a nice computer,
    and not $1200. Who pays $600 of earned money out of his own pocket
    for 6 months of minimum cover car insurance when I have not had a
    car accident in my entire life and a traffic ticket for decades? I
    like to have Robinhood provide those dollars. Same with other silly
    bills. $460/mo for just electricity bill in Winter months?..
    Hehe :) I'll use a wood burner heater and make that bill $46
    instead, and pay even THAT with Robinhood dollars :) And it's fun.
    My "allocations" have never been serious enough for me to ruin the
    life I have by putting more of my time and concerns into it.

    Which is all fine when one is still able to go do of that on one's own. >>>>


    Ok, I'm blabbering, in one sentence, and not a paragraph: my "net
    worth" is zero. Or might's well be zero. But I manage. And it's fun
    to manage it. Does it answer your question?

    Pretty much, for it is suggesting that your suggestion to buy on the
    drop isn't actionable by you personally, as you're suggesting that
    you don't have any liquid reserves with which to go "buy low".

    Sure, there can be speculation ...that's what RH does...with the
    likes of Margin buys, but this needs to be recognized as gambling,
    and hopefully done with highly discretionary funds, not essential
    living.


    If I was a person who'd put an iota of more concern in it, I would
    be another person. I'd be perhaps someone like you. In another type
    of life. But hey, I threw my PhD away for keeping myself who I am
    _now_. You think I'd waste myself with these "allocations" matters
    too much?

    Still, I'll keep this blog going cause the Robinhood game is fun
    enough to play.

    Its always 'fun' in an up market; “Only when the tide goes out do
    you discover who's been swimming naked” - Warren Buffett.

    -hh


    I don't use margins. It's not a sane strategy. To me it is like a
    disguised credit card use. I haven't used a credit card since late
    1980s. Star thinks I use my Mom's though :)

    Same.  AFAIC, margins is gambling under a different name.  It seems to
    be the purview of many (most?) Robinhood accounts, hence the comment.


    No I have the money to buy low when I think it would be rewarding. It
    would sometimes mean selling in some other areas fast to provide the
    money if I'm desperate for time. But usually I have the money.

    Specific strategies are up to individuals to decide upon, but what is
    known macroscopically is that Active managed funds do not reliably
    outperform Passive, and that's with full time professionals trying
    with Bloomberg terminals and all the rest to be maximally informed;
    regular individuals basically don't stand a chance.  As such, our most
    reliable strategy is to "not play the game":  buy & hold.


    The "net worth" I talked about includes the possibility that I wake
    up tomorrow and find that I've lost them all. In that sense (i.e.
    when you include things that can happen to it also), my net worth is
    zero. Because shit can always happen.

    When it happens, I'd still manage by beginning from zero again. As
    simple as that.

    You're saying I should be more careful.

    Nah, its up to you to decide.  If you're happy taking the risk of
    flying the trapeze with no safety net, that's your call.  Its not my
    personal choice because I have accepted the responsibility of caring
    for others (even when it reduces down to just cats/dogs).

    I thought you knew me better by now.

    Not really; I tend to care very little about nymshifters because they
    don't care enough about themselves to not be a chameleon.  Its similar
    to a business rule of thumb:  a company who changes their name does so
    because they have a bad reputation.

    It is too expensive to be more careful than this. In life's currency
    that is. It isn't worth it, in the same manner that cars who're
    priced more than $2000 aren't worth the money.

    That also depends on life choices in priorities:  in life's
    currencies, there's value in having peace of mind of not having to
    worry about where one's next meal is coming from ... and just how much
    of a safety margin is merited for such uncertainties is also a
    personal comfort level choice.  Having a safety margin isn't uncommon
    when one's been through rough patches where there weren't the
    resources for meals...or similarly, having a car that won't run.


    Don't forget that anybody's net worth is zero. Life's always fast
    heading that way. But some aren't aware of this and some are. Some
    ruin 95% of life into "money for a better life later", and get to
    enjoy 5% of it the way they want, and some live 95% of life the way
    they want, and ruin only 5% of it for money matters.

    Another angle. Do other life forms need money? What is the "net
    worth" of a mosquito buzzing around? You can't escape the fact that
    life for a mosquito is every bit the same thing as life for a human.

    Now "buzz" away as I've got to feed the cats, watch a nice pirated
    movie, and hit the sack :)

    No worries - the varmints have been fed here too, obligations have
    been met for the day, and its too late to start a movie...

    -hh




    Nymshifter? I've never been nymshifter in my life. When I change alias,
    it is because I really have changed. So depending on what my main type
    of activity has been, every few years my alias also changed accordingly.

    "alias" = "PotAto, PoTaTo".


    And I've never had more than one alias at the same time.

    AFAIC, even an annual change is too rapid to be bothered with.


    You're underestimating what an individual can do by himself in the world
    of stocks and cryptos.

    No, I'm merely recognizing that the difference in effort to decrease the gambling risk is quite nonlinear; with the ROI being unfavorable, I
    choose to not play that game.

    Also, you have a ton of money in your mind when you think and speak
    of it, large enough to make you really concerned. So I understand
    why you leave it to experts to handle such sums.

    I think you've misunderstood what I was saying with the experts: their performance track records aren't any better than passive, and since they
    cost more, they have an inferior ROI. This is why ~half the individual investor market today has changed from active to passive.

    My world of trading is a microcosm of what experts are doing. It is a
    baby game compared to those who play with hundreds of thousands of
    dollars and higher.

    The raw dollars largely doesn't matter; it is if you're achieving one's
    goals or not - along with the insight of how much work is it taking you,
    to see if its worth the effort. If its gambling for entertainment,
    that's fine so long as entertainment is your goal and you're willing to
    pay for it at up to the "100% loss" level.

    Also, presence of experts in the field, or volume of their activities
    doesn't mean that they are necessarily competing with you. They can't
    play god, they can't control you down to your baby game if you know what you're doing. There are ample opportunities for an individual to make a
    few extra thousand dollars a year without even be felt by the big guys.

    You'd be surprised. I think I've mentioned a friend who's tinkered with
    a momentum-based decision tool; their conclusion is that roughly ~1/3rd
    of a price is from manipulation.

    This isn't about suddenly making a ton of money, which can happen but
    one cannot rely on such strategies. It is about steadily making a little
    sum of money for "silly" expenses as I described. Especially during retirement.

    That can also depend on what sum is required for "silly", along with
    what one's risk tolerance is for gambling. Buying a lottery ticket can
    have just as much upside potential, but at a lower level of effort. Or
    to have sufficient margin such that 'silly' expenses are noise.


    Try it if you like. Make a Robinhood account and put, say, $5k in it and
    try to turn it into $10k in one year. You'll have a lot of fun ahead of
    you :)
    Oh, I dabble in my 'gambling' set-aside. Had a 100% loss a few years
    ago on one pick, but well enough on a few others. Current speculation
    is up roughly +300% in less than a year. But point is that I know that
    its dabbling, and not necessary for my well-being or happiness.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Feb 28 14:44:00 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/28/25 13:01, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 2/28/25 4:55 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 2/28/25 01:31, Physfitfreak wrote:



    Nymshifter? I've never been nymshifter in my life. When I change
    alias, it is because I really have changed.  So depending on what my
    main type of activity has been, every few years my alias also changed
    accordingly.

    "alias" = "PotAto, PoTaTo".


    And I've never had more than one alias at the same time.

    AFAIC, even an annual change is too rapid to be bothered with.


    You're underestimating what an individual can do by himself in the
    world of stocks and cryptos.

    No, I'm merely recognizing that the difference in effort to decrease
    the gambling risk is quite nonlinear; with the ROI being unfavorable,
    I choose to not play that game.

    Also, you have a ton of money in your mind when you think and speak
    of it, large enough to make you really concerned.  So I understand
    why you leave it to experts to handle such sums.

    I think you've misunderstood what I was saying with the experts: their
    performance track records aren't any better than passive, and since
    they cost more, they have an inferior ROI.  This is why ~half the
    individual investor market today has changed from active to passive.

    My world of trading is a microcosm of what experts are doing. It is a
    baby game compared to those who play with hundreds of thousands of
    dollars and higher.

    The raw dollars largely doesn't matter; it is if you're achieving
    one's goals or not - along with the insight of how much work is it
    taking you, to see if its worth the effort.  If its gambling for
    entertainment, that's fine so long as entertainment is your goal and
    you're willing to pay for it at up to the "100% loss" level.

    Also, presence of experts in the field, or volume of their activities
    doesn't mean that they are necessarily competing with you. They can't
    play god, they can't control you down to your baby game if you know
    what you're doing. There are ample opportunities for an individual to
    make a few extra thousand dollars a year without even be felt by the
    big guys.

    You'd be surprised.  I think I've mentioned a friend who's tinkered
    with a momentum-based decision tool; their conclusion is that roughly
    ~1/3rd of a price is from manipulation.

    This isn't about suddenly making a ton of money, which can happen but
    one cannot rely on such strategies. It is about steadily making a
    little sum of money for "silly" expenses as I described. Especially
    during retirement.

    That can also depend on what sum is required for "silly", along with
    what one's risk tolerance is for gambling.  Buying a lottery ticket
    can have just as much upside potential, but at a lower level of
    effort.  Or to have sufficient margin such that 'silly' expenses are
    noise.


    Try it if you like. Make a Robinhood account and put, say, $5k in it
    and try to turn it into $10k in one year. You'll have a lot of fun
    ahead of you :)
    Oh, I dabble in my 'gambling' set-aside.  Had a 100% loss a few years
    ago on one pick, but well enough on a few others.  Current speculation
    is up roughly +300% in less than a year.  But point is that I know
    that its dabbling, and not necessary for my well-being or happiness.


    -hh


    Hmm.. I don't know what you exactly mean by, "alias" = "PotAto, PoTaTo".


    Ah, sorry: its a colloquialism:

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/EnglishLearning/comments/1fmx44p/what_does_potayto_potahto_usually_mean/>

    Its noting that on "nymshifting" vs "alias", you're trying to claim a distinction without any effective difference. See:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinction_without_a_difference>


    Did someone with alias "PotAto" pretended to be Physfitfreak? If so,
    you've been victim of immature pranksters like "DFS" or that "Sausage up wrestlers' ass" guy or Relf. Any "engineer" type bozo included. So many
    of them morons tucked inside COLA.

    n/a


    The aliases I use aren't even true aliases. They are _descriptions_ of
    me. And they have changed every 5 or 6 years, cause it takes that long
    for me (and other Modern Humans) to essentially become someone else.

    When I was deep into studying biology, I was "biofreak" here. When I was deeply into the world of Excel, I was "Excelfreak" here. etc and etc.

    Doesn't matter AFAIC: I'm merely seeing "not the same name" so I don't
    assume that it is still the same individual posting. Since the most
    common abusers of nymshifting are luzer trolls not worthy of attention
    or care, its where that behavior mostly gets binned.

    Are you DRUNK when you reply to my posts? Why do I have to repeat myself every time we communicate? (I know why - this is not a question I need
    an answer for)

    Because the real answer is something you don't like /s

    This "gambling" thing... Ok. Education time. I think prudent stock and
    crypto trading is not gambling. I think long term investments in such
    fields are more like gambling! Hehe :) I'm not kidding.

    That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Personally, I'm not
    convinced that crypto is any more of an intrinsic value asset than a
    tulip bulb. See:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania>


    Yes, it's not like real estate. Far less can happen negatively to a
    piece of land than to your long term investments. In USA of course long
    term investments are safer than in other countries. This system here is located too far (geographically) from what's going on in the world.

    Gambling is like crossing the street with your eyes closed and ears
    plugged. You'd do it either fast or slowly. That's as much control there
    is that you can have. A Russian roulette.

    But trading of stocks and crypto by yourself is like crossing the street
    the way people who manage it all their lives do. Yes, some morons get
    killed by crossing the street but that doesn't mean you cannot cross the street safely all by yourself.

    And of course for this analogy, there's many ways to cross a street
    other than under the supervision of a crossing guard, which in analogy
    form would relate to varying levels of care vs carelessness...both of
    the individuals and of the crossing guard (because using a guard is no guarantee of never getting hit & killed by a car).

    Can I conclude, then, that you're chicken? :)

    Nah, just better informed & less reckless than I was in the past.


    -hh

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Mar 4 08:34:34 2025
    Hi,

    When you have the bitcoin reserve. Do not
    forget to abolish the national banks and
    the banks, everybody that lends money.

    Since only a currency with limited supply is good.

    The ultimate utopia will be USA inhabitated
    by farmers, selling their products inside
    USA with bitcoin, perfectly protected from

    the outside world. Plus a few gold card visitors.

    LoL

    Bye

    Physfitfreak schrieb:
    On 3/3/25 12:24 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Nobody knocked on wood, so neither stocks nor crypto experienced any
    increase. People are just selling on both fronts to wait tomorrow's
    unpredictable situation out.

    Tariffs kicks in tomorrow, and some people are still hopeful it can be
    prevented. Because Trump bullshits a lot.



    Yes, it looks like the obstacle is tomorrow's turn out of tariffs and
    the retaliation tariffs imposed on American products.

    But as far as XRP by itself is concerned, one could only at this point conduct a poll and see what the consensus is. This was done this week in
    X after Trump included it in the Strategic Reserves and people were
    asked to say by December of 2025 which of the four values below will represent the price of XRP best:

    1- $100
    2- $1000
    3- $10000
    4- $100000

    The result, as of right now, has been:

    1- 59.5%
    2- 20.3%
    3- 4.1%
    4- 16.1%

    If the 60% consensus materializes, a mere investment of $3000 in it
    right now (XRP = $2.36) will become $127100 by December. $124k profit.

    Note that XRP's chances are much better than that of Dogecoin was in
    2021. Doge was resented by the financial system crooks while XRP is supported.

    Also note the difference between cases 3 and 4. It reflects the fact
    that people see that either XRP makes it fully or remains one of the
    under the $1000 cryptos; and that there's no place for it in between.



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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Tue Mar 4 08:37:09 2025
    The final step will be to introduce Sharia Law.
    So that the USA farmers can have 4 wifes.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    When you have the bitcoin reserve. Do not
    forget to abolish the national banks and
    the banks, everybody that lends money.

    Since only a currency with limited supply is good.

    The ultimate utopia will be USA inhabitated
    by farmers, selling their products inside
    USA with bitcoin, perfectly protected from

    the outside world. Plus a few gold card visitors.

    LoL

    Bye

    Physfitfreak schrieb:
    On 3/3/25 12:24 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Nobody knocked on wood, so neither stocks nor crypto experienced any
    increase. People are just selling on both fronts to wait tomorrow's
    unpredictable situation out.

    Tariffs kicks in tomorrow, and some people are still hopeful it can
    be prevented. Because Trump bullshits a lot.



    Yes, it looks like the obstacle is tomorrow's turn out of tariffs and
    the retaliation tariffs imposed on American products.

    But as far as XRP by itself is concerned, one could only at this point
    conduct a poll and see what the consensus is. This was done this week
    in X after Trump included it in the Strategic Reserves and people were
    asked to say by December of 2025 which of the four values below will
    represent the price of XRP best:

    1- $100
    2- $1000
    3- $10000
    4- $100000

    The result, as of right now, has been:

    1- 59.5%
    2- 20.3%
    3- 4.1%
    4- 16.1%

    If the 60% consensus materializes, a mere investment of $3000 in it
    right now (XRP = $2.36) will become $127100 by December. $124k profit.

    Note that XRP's chances are much better than that of Dogecoin was in
    2021. Doge was resented by the financial system crooks while XRP is
    supported.

    Also note the difference between cases 3 and 4. It reflects the fact
    that people see that either XRP makes it fully or remains one of the
    under the $1000 cryptos; and that there's no place for it in between.




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