• Re: Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift-Bias-Removal

    From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Fri Apr 18 03:50:44 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 3:33:00 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:56:14 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:

    Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift Bias Removal

    If you've been following along, for about a hundred and
    more years since Hubble there was observed a sort of
    red-shift bias, meaning distant galaxies appear to
    demonstrate a red-shift which according to Doppler
    means they recede, and that given the theory of
    stellar formation and pulsation, and the theory of
    hydrogen lines and standard candles, then it was
    really well figured out and quite tuned the theory,
    to arrive at estimates like the age of the universe,
    from taking averages and extrapolating backwards,
    and the Expansionary making for the Inflationary
    and making a very sensible theory called Big Bang.

    So, over time, then science found that there wasn't
    enough energy to explain all the receding. Much like
    science couldn't explain why galaxies like free-rotating
    platters weren't flying apart and thus had to add
    Dark Matter or not luminous matter to explain how
    gravity, which also isn't really a theory in those days,
    then for energy there's Dark Energy, enough to
    explain why things appear to be falling apart in
    the large, while holding together in the close.

    Over time, then these non-scientific non-explanations,
    mute matter say or false energy, well they started to
    grow more and more, until at some point it was
    reached "out non-scientific non-explanations now
    dominate the theory so obviously our theory is wrong".

    That is to say, ever since Dark Matter and Dark Energy
    were in the theory, it's _not_ the theory, of that without.

    Now, when talking about Dark Matter and Dark Energy,
    it's not to be read as about ethnicity, while of course
    human beings have ethnicities and that, just saying,
    when we say Dark Matter and Dark Energy, it's exactly
    the non-luminous, so un-detectable, matter, and,
    energy with same idea, non-observable non-scientific.
    So, that's just saying that the reasons why theory
    want to explain Dark Matter and Dark Energy as
    having reasons why their role in the theory is
    according to something else in the theory,
    is like so.


    So, red-shift bias is the idea "well what if all along
    the measurements get a red-shift _bias_ and we
    thought it was plain straight Doppler yet really
    it's something else", about Dark Energy. (Then,
    for Dark Matter it's actually a matter of mechanics,
    and so free rotating frames explain via a true
    centrifugal why it's to be explained what makes
    the role of Dark Matter in theories that are
    otherwise quite thoroughly broken because
    they don't have any way to say what it is.) So,
    the Dark Energy, then, if red-shift bias is explainable
    because it's more about "Fresnel and large lensing"
    and not about ideas like "tired light" or "lumpy space-time",
    or these other strange and sometimes bizaare
    non-scientific non-explanations, where red-shift
    bias is explainable, and removable, then: the
    premier theories of the day can be much better.


    So, since 2MASS, and, the discovery of LaniaKea,
    and, particularly since JWST, and soon with the
    Nancy Roman if that makes it, all these latest
    additions to the sky survey, also have in other
    spectra, _much, much, much_ less red-shift bias,
    what was 99/1 is now 51/49. Then this makes all
    the Lambda CDM and particular Expansion and
    Inflation quite lose most their justification, except
    as a tuning problem according to measurements
    and extrapolations tuning and fitting the data
    an exercise in scientific modeling that the new
    data has paint-canned and round-filed.


    Well, have a great day, just letting you know that
    fall-gravity explain Dark Matter and red-shift-bias-removal
    explains Dark Energy: away.


    Of course, both Big Bang and Steady State hypotheses
    either can be made fit the data as neither are falsifiable.


    Mathematics _owes_ physics more and better
    mathematics of infinity, and continuity.
    Right, so before Olber it was already understood that light doesn't go
    on forever and gets tired so mainstream science is just a boondoggle
    anyone with a 85 IQ who uses his brains can see through.

    Olberg had no clue about galaxies and intergalactic distances. Not about
    CBR which indeed makes the infinite universe bright.

    Problem with you bigoted tribalistic apes is that you are not
    scientific. So you persist with the most ridiculous of nonsensical lies maintained with mega Goebbelsian tactics.

    As apes you gotta apes, so you apes the Einsteinian alpha apes.

    Does not really work, so the alphas justify their pollutionas,
    extortions and mass murder and all viciousness as normal human attitudes
    in a limited, twisted, meaningless godless universe.

    No wonder they shun the divine Arindam.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Fri Apr 18 21:22:46 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 3:50:43 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 3:33:00 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:56:14 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:

    Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift Bias Removal

    If you've been following along, for about a hundred and
    more years since Hubble there was observed a sort of
    red-shift bias, meaning distant galaxies appear to
    demonstrate a red-shift which according to Doppler
    means they recede, and that given the theory of
    stellar formation and pulsation, and the theory of
    hydrogen lines and standard candles, then it was
    really well figured out and quite tuned the theory,
    to arrive at estimates like the age of the universe,
    from taking averages and extrapolating backwards,
    and the Expansionary making for the Inflationary
    and making a very sensible theory called Big Bang.

    So, over time, then science found that there wasn't
    enough energy to explain all the receding. Much like
    science couldn't explain why galaxies like free-rotating
    platters weren't flying apart and thus had to add
    Dark Matter or not luminous matter to explain how
    gravity, which also isn't really a theory in those days,
    then for energy there's Dark Energy, enough to
    explain why things appear to be falling apart in
    the large, while holding together in the close.

    Over time, then these non-scientific non-explanations,
    mute matter say or false energy, well they started to
    grow more and more, until at some point it was
    reached "out non-scientific non-explanations now
    dominate the theory so obviously our theory is wrong".

    That is to say, ever since Dark Matter and Dark Energy
    were in the theory, it's _not_ the theory, of that without.

    Now, when talking about Dark Matter and Dark Energy,
    it's not to be read as about ethnicity, while of course
    human beings have ethnicities and that, just saying,
    when we say Dark Matter and Dark Energy, it's exactly
    the non-luminous, so un-detectable, matter, and,
    energy with same idea, non-observable non-scientific.
    So, that's just saying that the reasons why theory
    want to explain Dark Matter and Dark Energy as
    having reasons why their role in the theory is
    according to something else in the theory,
    is like so.


    So, red-shift bias is the idea "well what if all along
    the measurements get a red-shift _bias_ and we
    thought it was plain straight Doppler yet really
    it's something else", about Dark Energy. (Then,
    for Dark Matter it's actually a matter of mechanics,
    and so free rotating frames explain via a true
    centrifugal why it's to be explained what makes
    the role of Dark Matter in theories that are
    otherwise quite thoroughly broken because
    they don't have any way to say what it is.) So,
    the Dark Energy, then, if red-shift bias is explainable
    because it's more about "Fresnel and large lensing"
    and not about ideas like "tired light" or "lumpy space-time",
    or these other strange and sometimes bizaare
    non-scientific non-explanations, where red-shift
    bias is explainable, and removable, then: the
    premier theories of the day can be much better.


    So, since 2MASS, and, the discovery of LaniaKea,
    and, particularly since JWST, and soon with the
    Nancy Roman if that makes it, all these latest
    additions to the sky survey, also have in other
    spectra, _much, much, much_ less red-shift bias,
    what was 99/1 is now 51/49. Then this makes all
    the Lambda CDM and particular Expansion and
    Inflation quite lose most their justification, except
    as a tuning problem according to measurements
    and extrapolations tuning and fitting the data
    an exercise in scientific modeling that the new
    data has paint-canned and round-filed.


    Well, have a great day, just letting you know that
    fall-gravity explain Dark Matter and red-shift-bias-removal
    explains Dark Energy: away.


    Of course, both Big Bang and Steady State hypotheses
    either can be made fit the data as neither are falsifiable.


    Mathematics _owes_ physics more and better
    mathematics of infinity, and continuity.
    Right, so before Olber it was already understood that light doesn't go
    on forever and gets tired so mainstream science is just a boondoggle
    anyone with a 85 IQ who uses his brains can see through.

    Olberg had no clue about galaxies and intergalactic distances. Not about
    CBR which indeed makes the infinite universe bright.

    Problem with you bigoted tribalistic apes is that you are not
    scientific. So you persist with the most ridiculous of nonsensical lies maintained with mega Goebbelsian tactics.

    As apes you gotta apes, so you apes the Einsteinian alpha apes.

    Does not really work, so the alphas justify their pollutionas,
    extortions and mass murder and all viciousness as normal human attitudes
    in a limited, twisted, meaningless godless universe.

    No wonder they shun the divine Arindam.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    Simply amazing how ape minds work, what! Wrong ideas are cancers in
    their minds. Out of purely tribal or doa reasons they will nourish these cancers when getting rid of them is easily possible with some courage.

    Woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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