Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math calculations.
But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental
data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that
SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR,
but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what
is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math calculations. >>>> But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the existing >>>> experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental
data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical principles >>>> (models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that
SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit up to >>> near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR,
but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and socialism.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or
outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged
mass particles.
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from
a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her.
The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the
wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what
is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
--
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from
a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her.
The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the
wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly
on or outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to
slow to explain electricity.
On 21/05/2025 01:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
Interesting outcome of your thought put in some Hindi film - the
heroine is strapped to a chair with wires around her and the
villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from a far away
point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. The
current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop
off the wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to
the ground.
And therein lies the proof of Arindam's Theory of Everything.
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math calculations. >>>> But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the existing >>>> experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental
data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical principles >>>> (models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that
SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit up to >>> near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR,
but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and socialism.
On 21/05/2025 01:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from
a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her.
The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the
wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
And therein lies the proof of Arindam's Theory of Everything.
On Wed, 21 May 2025 6:05:44 +0000, occam wrote:
On 21/05/2025 01:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from >>> a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. >>> The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the >>> wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
And therein lies the proof of Arindam's Theory of Everything.
Dull apes, this occam entity. Still it responds, does not killfile us
On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math calculations. >>>>> But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the existing >>>>> experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical principles >>>>> (models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit up to >>>> near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and that >>>> the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be limited >>>> JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing else is >>>> just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
Then what would Hitler say about that? (I would have to think
about the joke to insert there.)
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or
outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing
electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the
speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged
mass particles.
I am thinking that metal is also shiny because its ability to conduct electricity makes it re-emit light like an antenna when light interacts
with the metal surface.
There is a lot about 19th century electro-magnetism that does predict
what happens with light quite well.
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from
a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her.
The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the
wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what
is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
--
On Wed, 21 May 2025 4:48:02 +0000, x wrote:
On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math
calculations.
But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles >>>>>> is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the
existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the >>>>>> experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical
principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit
up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and
that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be
limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics >>>>> community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing
else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the >>>>> last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
Given populations in Usenet and other media, looks like that is okay.
For one usenetter ten million media fed sheep.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
No, Jesus would be called crazy. Hitler never recommended turning the
other cheek.
Then what would Hitler say about that? (I would have to think
about the joke to insert there.)
Ich bin ein Jesuit.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or >>>> outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing
electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the >>> speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged
mass particles.
I am thinking that metal is also shiny because its ability to conduct
electricity makes it re-emit light like an antenna when light interacts
with the metal surface.
:)
There is a lot about 19th century electro-magnetism that does predict
what happens with light quite well.
Those were the days before the relativity-depravity quantum-bunkum
frauds took over.
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from >>> a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. >>> The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the >>> wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what >>>> is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
--
--
On Wed, 21 May 2025 4:48:02 +0000, x wrote:
On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math
calculations.
But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles >>>>>> is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the
existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the >>>>>> experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical
principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit
up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and
that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be
limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics >>>>> community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing
else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the >>>>> last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
Given populations in Usenet and other media, looks like that is okay.
For one usenetter ten million media fed sheep.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
No, Jesus would be called crazy. Hitler never recommended turning the
other cheek.
Then what would Hitler say about that? (I would have to think
about the joke to insert there.)
Ich bin ein Jesuit.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or >>>> outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing
electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the >>> speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged
mass particles.
I am thinking that metal is also shiny because its ability to conduct
electricity makes it re-emit light like an antenna when light interacts
with the metal surface.
:)
There is a lot about 19th century electro-magnetism that does predict
what happens with light quite well.
Those were the days before the relativity-depravity quantum-bunkum
frauds took over.
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from >>> a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. >>> The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the >>> wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what >>>> is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
--
--
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly
on or outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to
slow to explain electricity.
???
You don't need any gobbledegook to explain skin effect. The
interdependence of electric current and magnetism is a well-understood phenomenon. Any undergraduate who has studied electromagnetism ought to
be able to do the calculation.
On 21/05/2025 10:35, Bertietaylor wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2025 6:05:44 +0000, occam wrote:
On 21/05/2025 01:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from >>>> a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. >>>> The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the >>>> wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
And therein lies the proof of Arindam's Theory of Everything.
Dull apes, this occam entity. Still it responds, does not killfile us
Arindam-baiting is one of the few pleasures left for me, since they
outlawed bear-baiting, cock-fighting and other medieval pastimes.
Woof, woof, etc.
On 5/21/25 05:45, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2025 4:48:02 +0000, x wrote:
On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math
calculations.
But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles >>>>>>> is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the
existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can >>>>>>> always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the >>>>>>> experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical
principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit >>>>>> up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and >>>>>> that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be
limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics >>>>>> community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or >>>>>> communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing
else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the >>>>>> last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
Given populations in Usenet and other media, looks like that is okay.
For one usenetter ten million media fed sheep.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
No, Jesus would be called crazy. Hitler never recommended turning the
other cheek.
Then what would Hitler say about that? (I would have to think
about the joke to insert there.)
Ich bin ein Jesuit.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or >>>>> outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing
electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the >>>> speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged >>>> mass particles.
I am thinking that metal is also shiny because its ability to conduct
electricity makes it re-emit light like an antenna when light interacts
with the metal surface.
:)
There is a lot about 19th century electro-magnetism that does predict
what happens with light quite well.
Those were the days before the relativity-depravity quantum-bunkum
frauds took over.
Some things about 'orbitals' or 'chemistry' are described rather
well by certain quantized 'jumps' that the 'orbital' might take
or be observed with 'spectroscopy'.
Light has a 'constant' speed? There is something called radio
detecting and ranging (RADAR).
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from >>>> a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. >>>> The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the >>>> wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what >>>>> is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
--
--
On 5/21/25 05:45, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2025 4:48:02 +0000, x wrote:
On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math
calculations.
But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles >>>>>>> is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the
existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can >>>>>>> always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the >>>>>>> experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical
principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit >>>>>> up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and >>>>>> that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be
limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics >>>>>> community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or >>>>>> communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing
else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the >>>>>> last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
Given populations in Usenet and other media, looks like that is okay.
For one usenetter ten million media fed sheep.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
No, Jesus would be called crazy. Hitler never recommended turning the
other cheek.
Well you know there are different levels of 'Ahimsa' in
different religions or philosophies.
There are also different views about 'minds' and 'ideas'
and what generates them and how they are formed.
There are some systems of ideas that consider 'religions'
to be 'disconnected from reality' or 'crazy' if they
claim that people can be raised from the dead without
evidence, like Dawkins wrote 'The God Delusion' implying
that all religions people are 'crazy'.
I am thinking that the word 'madness' derived from something
like 'anger', and emotion back during the time of Hobbes
and the English Civil War ('Leviathan' and other writings)
(some of the writings also used the words 'summum malum'
rather than 'summum bonum') but if some people are violent
they can also be thought in the modern sense as 'crazy' as
well as those that are non-violent.
In that sense the concept might tend more toward being
thought of as 'mindless' or doing things 'without reason',
or even at random rather than 'angry' or 'not-angry'.
These tend to involve however theories about 'minds'
or 'ideas' or even 'souls'. There is also something called
'philosophic idealism' versus 'philosophic materialism'. So there
are a lot of theories about that also. In general modern
'psychology' is a religion that tends to appeal to people who
think they are 'atheists'.
'science is true and religion is false', but also
'I can close my mind and pretend that I am not closing
my mind because I have 'faith' based upon 'science'
('which is true') and not 'religion'('which is false').
(What is 'faith' or 'belief'?)
sets of subtlety in using 'crazy' as a generic
pejorative rather than 'Hitler' as a generic
pejorative.
Then what would Hitler say about that? (I would have to think
about the joke to insert there.)
Ich bin ein Jesuit.
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or >>>>> outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing
electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the >>>> speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged >>>> mass particles.
I am thinking that metal is also shiny because its ability to conduct
electricity makes it re-emit light like an antenna when light interacts
with the metal surface.
:)
There is a lot about 19th century electro-magnetism that does predict
what happens with light quite well.
Those were the days before the relativity-depravity quantum-bunkum
frauds took over.
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from >>>> a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her. >>>> The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the >>>> wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what >>>>> is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
TH
--
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On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math calculations. >>>>> But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the
existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical
principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit
up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and that >>>> the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be limited >>>> JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing else is >>>> just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
Then what would Hitler say about that? (I would have to think
about the joke to insert there.)
E.g. had long the impression, that electric current flows mainly on or
outside the wire, because the electrons inside are way to slow to
explain electricity.
What flows outside are electric fields moving at light speed pushing
electrons all the way. The speed of electrons has nothing to do with the
speed of the current. The current is a wave while electrons are charged
mass particles.
I am thinking that metal is also shiny because its ability to conduct electricity makes it re-emit light like an antenna when light interacts
with the metal surface.
There is a lot about 19th century electro-magnetism that does predict
what happens with light quite well.
Interesting outcome of your thought put
in some Hindi film - the heroine is strapped to a chair with wires
around her and the villain has pulled the switch to electrocute her from
a far away point. The hero mounts his horse and gallops off to save her.
The current charges as you have it move along the wire! The horse
gallops even faster! At the last moment the hero manages to chop off the
wire to save the heroine and the current slowly falls to the ground.
WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
Or: I regard 'Growing Earth' as valid or 'abiogenic oil'.
All of these and a lot more are regarded as heresies.
BUT: I'm not a member of the 'Church of physics' and do not know, what
is heretic and why.
Sorry, but how could I possibly care about what is a secret?
<sigh> Yet another thread to deep six. People can't seem to ignore
the bertie buffoon.
On Wed, 21 May 2025 4:48:02 +0000, x wrote:
On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math
calculations.
But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles >>>>>> is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the
existing
experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the >>>>>> experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical
principles
(models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit
up to
near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and
that
the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be
limited
JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics >>>>> community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing
else is
just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the >>>>> last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
I guess that is Godwin's Law. Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
Given populations in Usenet and other media, looks like that is okay.
For one usenetter ten million media fed sheep.
If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
would call Jesus Hitler,
No, Jesus would be called crazy. Hitler never recommended turning the
other cheek.
Am Mittwoch000021, 21.05.2025 um 01:19 schrieb Bertitaylor:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
"We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math calculations. >>>>> But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the existing >>>>> experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental >>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
(theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical principles >>>>> (models) upon which these construction are based."
Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that >>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit up to >>>> near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
CHARGED PARTICLES.
Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and that >>>> the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be limited >>>> JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR, >>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing else is >>>> just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
last 140 years (politics and economy).
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
Actually: nothing.
But 'Nazi' is used as handy insult against anything unwanted, German
and/or dissident.
So people called me 'Nazi' several times, just because I dared to
question Einstein's SRT.
Apparently this was justified, because Einstein was a German Jew.
But that is wrong, because I actually think, that 'Einstein' was a fake identity of a Jesuit from Switzerland.
I would not call myself 'Nazi', because I'm actually too 'left' and too middle class (what both were the characteristics, which were most hated
by the Nazis).
TH
....
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
Actually: nothing.
True
But 'Nazi' is used as handy insult against anything unwanted, German
and/or dissident.
Yes especially for someone strict. Like the term grammarnazi.
So people called me 'Nazi' several times, just because I dared to
question Einstein's SRT.
That rubbish was ridiculed by Nazis who called it Jewish physics. Yes it
is perilous to ridicule e=mcc for then they will label you a Nazi. So
Arindam had often been termed a Nazi although he is an honorary Soviet.
Apparently this was justified, because Einstein was a German Jew.
Wasn't he?
But that is wrong, because I actually think, that 'Einstein' was a fake
identity of a Jesuit from Switzerland.
No one brought up by Jesuits would have any use for the unethical
relativity nonsenses that naturally breed immorality.
I would not call myself 'Nazi', because I'm actually too 'left' and too
middle class (what both were the characteristics, which were most hated
by the Nazis).
But Nazis created the middle class what with labour reforms and
technology.
--
Looks like before Hitler Germans were mostly third class lowlife after aristocracy and capitalists.
WOOF woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
--
Am Donnerstag000022, 22.05.2025 um 09:54 schrieb Bertietaylor:
...
I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
because I dared to question certain assumptions.
What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
socialism.
Actually: nothing.
True
But 'Nazi' is used as handy insult against anything unwanted, German
and/or dissident.
Yes especially for someone strict. Like the term grammarnazi.
So people called me 'Nazi' several times, just because I dared to
question Einstein's SRT.
That rubbish was ridiculed by Nazis who called it Jewish physics. Yes it
is perilous to ridicule e=mcc for then they will label you a Nazi. So Arindam had often been termed a Nazi although he is an honorary Soviet.
Apparently this was justified, because Einstein was a German Jew.
Wasn't he?
He was offered presidency of Israel and declined.
My guess: he wasn't circumcised and afraid, somebody could find out.
But that is wrong, because I actually think, that 'Einstein' was a fake
identity of a Jesuit from Switzerland.
No one brought up by Jesuits would have any use for the unethical relativity nonsenses that naturally breed immorality.
I would not call myself 'Nazi', because I'm actually too 'left' and too
middle class (what both were the characteristics, which were most hated
by the Nazis).
But Nazis created the middle class what with labour reforms and
technology.
Actually not, because 'middle class' stems from the British three-class-system and means actually the same as 'capitalist' or 'bourgeois'.
Since the Nazis were actually also socialists, they were primarily anti-middle-class.
They put them into 'Arbeitsdienst', in to the frontlines of war or
called them 'Jew' and exterminated them.
In most cases they were ripped off.
TH
--
Bertitaylor wrote:
Looks like before Hitler Germans were mostly third class lowlife after
aristocracy and capitalists.
WOOF woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof
Bertietaylor
--
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https://www.google.com/search?q=putin%27s+house+inside
I think Putin wants to move to Beverly Hills California...and shop at
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