• Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)

    From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 12:15:10 2025
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    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).

    That way, they are like a very large Moon, with no atmosphere.

    All stars that have magnetic fields have dark matter as their core.
    Over time, they lose their hydrogen and helium cover, which become
    nebulas.

    Once the dark core (like our Earth without any air, or a large Moon)
    enters the nebula it once again attracts the hydrogen there, becoming
    bright once again.

    These happen in trillion year cycles, endlessly.

    Woof woof woof woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 21:01:02 2025
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    Den 19.06.2025 14:15, skrev bertietaylor:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).


    Two questions:

    Why do astronomers think that galaxies contain some
    invisible (not interacting with EM-radiation) matter with mass?

    Why do they not think this matter can be in the stars?

    Don't know, do you? :-D

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Fri Jun 20 08:01:00 2025
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    On 6/19/2025 9:01 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 19.06.2025 14:15, skrev bertietaylor:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).


    Two questions:

    Why do astronomers think that galaxies contain some
    invisible (not interacting with EM-radiation) matter with mass?

    Because what is visible (and seen) doesn't fit
    their precious theories?

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  • From lar3ryca@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 18:36:13 2025
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    On 2025-06-20 00:01, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 9:01 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 19.06.2025 14:15, skrev bertietaylor:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).


    Two questions:

    Why do astronomers think that galaxies contain some
    invisible (not interacting with EM-radiation) matter with mass?

    They don't. 'Dark matter' is a placeholder for something that has yet to
    be fit in with current theories.

    Because what is visible (and seen)  doesn't fit
    their precious theories?

    You are certainly free to propose any theory you wish, and like any
    theory, will be open to be disproven.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to larry@invalid.ca on Sun Jun 22 12:12:11 2025
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    lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-06-20 00:01, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 9:01 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 19.06.2025 14:15, skrev bertietaylor:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).


    Two questions:

    Why do astronomers think that galaxies contain some
    invisible (not interacting with EM-radiation) matter with mass?

    They don't. 'Dark matter' is a placeholder for something that has yet to
    be fit in with current theories.

    Because what is visible (and seen) doesn't fit
    their precious theories?

    You are certainly free to propose any theory you wish, and like any
    theory, will be open to be disproven.

    By coincidence, tomorrow we will finally have first light
    in the Vera Rubin Observatory. (after more than 20 years of building) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_C._Rubin_Observatory>

    Vera Rubin did pioneering work on galactic rotation rates,
    and she thereby became a co-discoveror of the existence of dark matter. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Rubin>

    The telescope will carry out a full sky survey to unprecedented
    resolution. (yielding hundreds Petabytes of data)
    It will no doubt help to decide among theories.

    You can watch the proceedings on-line, tomorrow at 11:00 AM, US EDT,

    Jan

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 03:47:08 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 6:01:00 +0000, Maciej Woźniak wrote:

    On 6/19/2025 9:01 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 19.06.2025 14:15, skrev bertietaylor:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).


    Two questions:

    Why do astronomers think that galaxies contain some
    invisible (not interacting with EM-radiation) matter with mass?

    If they are like a huge Moon what should they radiate? As they do not
    radiate they are dark, not visible. But they do block some star when
    they get in front of it. Those are called evidence for black holes. But
    black hole is a wrong thingy, nothing such in the universe.

    Because what is visible (and seen) doesn't fit
    their precious theories?

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this
    great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang
    phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.

    Woof woof woof woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 20:54:15 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this
    great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang
    phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Mon Jun 23 23:37:12 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this
    great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang
    phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    See his links in sci.physics.

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.

    WOOF woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Tue Jun 24 10:48:43 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 24/06/25 04:54, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium,
    this great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then
    bang phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    We in AUE have had so many explanations of Arindam's theories that we
    have almost universally killfiled him. When discussing his crackpot
    theories, could you please refrain from crossposting to alt.usage.english?

    [Followups set]

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    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Tue Jun 24 01:41:45 2025
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    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 0:48:43 +0000, Peter Moylan wrote:

    On 24/06/25 04:54, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium,
    this great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then
    bang phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    We in AUE have had so many explanations of Arindam's theories that we
    have almost universally killfiled him. When discussing his crackpot
    theories, could you please refrain from crossposting to
    alt.usage.english?

    Cowardly apes here be, exchanging inanities and thinking themselves
    smart.
    Annoying them is fun.
    woof woof woof woof
    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Tue Jun 24 06:20:26 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this
    great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang
    phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    ****
    The physics aphorisms of Arindam https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/8HgH3sbRe94/m/gYzu9OAkAgAJ

    The cause of gravity https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/mmigkl3yZYc/m/8Rs16NCXAAAJ

    Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories -
    1
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/6UIGDNHH7n0/m/U0t-kYqgAAAJ

    Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories -
    2
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/CffbGTXV72c/m/5ONP6J6gAAAJ

    *****


    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    From internal force, basically, as is shown by Arindam

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSMjOJ27iRM

    Classic song, maybe singing and dancing with gusto will help in
    disturbed conditions.
    My translation:

    Where lips utter the words of truth,
    Where hearts are free of filth and fear,
    We are the natives of the land
    We are the natives of the land
    The land through which the Ganga flows.

    The learned ones who know too much
    Understand humans far too less.
    This is the East; we in the East
    Know the worth of every life.

    The guest we invite as ours
    Is dearer to us than our lives.
    We do not have greed for much.
    With very little we can manage
    With very little we can manage.

    As for children this land our mother
    For all of time endures everything -
    We are the natives of the land
    We are the natives of the land
    The land through which the Ganga flows.

    Live together in peace and love!
    Finally this is what matters!
    Such is the call of the land
    Such is the call of the land
    The land through which the Ganga flows.
    ***
    the same tune should work, more or less, I think!
    (Arindam)

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 08:51:23 2025
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    Le 24/06/2025 à 07:20, bertietaylor a écrit :

    This is the East; we in the East
    Know the worth of every life. [...]

    <Snigger>


    And in another post:

    Cowardly apes here be, exchanging inanities and thinking themselves
    smart.

    « Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin
    gourmet » - Courteline.

    Annoying them is fun.
    woof woof woof woof
    Bertietaylor

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Hibou on Tue Jun 24 08:41:57 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 7:51:23 +0000, Hibou wrote:

    Le 24/06/2025 à 07:20, bertietaylor a écrit :

    This is the East; we in the East
    Know the worth of every life. [...]

    <Snigger>

    Population of India: 1,400,000,000 give or take a few million.

    Not eating cows leads to better manners than shown by cow eaters which
    leads to greater populations as women appreciate loving attitudes.



    And in another post:

    Cowardly apes here be, exchanging inanities and thinking themselves
    smart.

    « Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet » - Courteline.

    This newsgroup is about the usage of English, not French.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    Annoying them is fun.
    woof woof woof woof
    Bertietaylor

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 11:26:20 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Le 24/06/2025 à 09:41, Bertitaylor a écrit :
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 7:51:23 +0000, Hibou wrote:
    Le 24/06/2025 à 07:20, bertietaylor a écrit :

    Cowardly apes here be, exchanging inanities and thinking themselves
    smart.

    « Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin
    gourmet » - Courteline.

    This newsgroup is about the usage of English, not French.

    aue is, though we often digress.

    I point out that you started this thread in aue with a post entitled
    'Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)'. What has that
    to do with English usage?

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Or that?

    aue removed from follow-up.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Hibou on Tue Jun 24 10:43:31 2025
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    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:26:20 +0000, Hibou wrote:

    Le 24/06/2025 à 09:41, Bertitaylor a écrit :
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 7:51:23 +0000, Hibou wrote:
    Le 24/06/2025 à 07:20, bertietaylor a écrit :

    Cowardly apes here be, exchanging inanities and thinking themselves
    smart.

    « Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin
    gourmet » - Courteline.

    This newsgroup is about the usage of English, not French.

    aue is, though we often digress.

    I point out that you started this thread in aue with a post entitled
    'Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)'. What has that
    to do with English usage?

    It clarifies what the supposed dark matter is, proudly and originally in
    the English language.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Or that?

    That could be considered third person dog voice, an original feat in the English language by the greatest genius Arindam; when not accepting our vociferous cyberdog state barking for Arindam from low Heaven.

    Bertietaylor

    aue removed from follow-up.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Hibou on Wed Jun 25 13:03:05 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 5:20:08 +0000, Hibou wrote:

    Le 24/06/2025 à 11:43, Bertitaylor a écrit :
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:26:20 +0000, Hibou wrote:
    Le 24/06/2025 à 09:41, Bertitaylor a écrit :

    This newsgroup is about the usage of English, not French.

    aue is, though we often digress.

    I point out that you started this thread in aue with a post entitled
    'Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)'. What has that >>> to do with English usage?

    It clarifies what the supposed dark matter is, proudly and originally in
    the English language. [...]

    Ah! You posted here for a crit of your usage. Why didn't you say so /en toutes lettres/?

    Please, the English ruled India and not the French so non comprende if
    that makes sense.


    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).

    That way, they are like a very large Moon, with no atmosphere.

    Dark matter is the core of stars (beneath the hydrogen cover), so they
    are like very large Moons with no atmosphere.

    Something like that (for the usage; I make no comment on the sense).

    The sense should be perfectly clear even to the French. Imagine a star
    sized Moon. A huge rock. That is dark matter. Such is the sense. Whether
    one accepts it or not is another story.

    All stars that have magnetic fields have dark matter as their core.

    OK for usage. (The sense doesn't quite square with that of your first sentence.)

    Don't see why not.

    Over time, they lose their hydrogen and helium cover, which become
    nebulas.

    Over time, they lose their hydrogen and helium cover, which forms
    nebulas.

    Over time, they lose their hydrogen and helium, which form nebulas.

    A collective noun is singular. You are ignoring the term used, cover.
    Why this dishonesty of twisting our words? The term cover shows our
    model of a star as a huge rock covered with H and He just as Earth is
    with N and O.

    Get that clear at least.

    Woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    Once the dark core (like our Earth without any air, or a large Moon)
    enters the nebula it once again attracts the hydrogen there, becoming
    bright once again.

    .... it attracts the hydrogen there, and becomes bright again.

    (Sense: you imply that the Earth and Moon are also made of dark matter.)

    These happen in trillion year cycles, endlessly.

    This happens....

    Woof woof woof woof woof woof

    Buzzzzz! Challenge for repetition!

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jun 25 15:13:52 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On 25/06/2025 14:03, Bertitaylor wrote:
    The term cover shows our
    model of a star as a huge rock covered with H and He just as Earth is
    with N and O.

    Atomic oxygen. Very hazardous.



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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 25 14:39:58 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    Le 25/06/2025 à 14:03, Bertitaylor a écrit :

    Please, the English ruled India and not the French [...]

    Yes, we chose well. Imperialists should remember that the empire of
    today determines the restaurant culture of tomorrow.

    Curries! Yum!

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Phil on Wed Jun 25 16:08:54 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On 25/06/2025 15:13, Phil wrote:
    On 25/06/2025 14:03, Bertitaylor wrote:
    The term cover shows our
    model of a star as a huge rock covered with H and He just as
    Earth is
    with N and O.

    Atomic oxygen. Very hazardous.

    O2 - Diatomic oxygen, doubly hazardous.

    Or H2O - Dihydrogen Monoxide - with Hydrogen AND Oxygen it's just
    asking for trouble.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 25 19:14:53 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 24.06.2025 01:37, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang >>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?


    Deuterium fission.

    What is the half life of deuterium?

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    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jun 25 10:30:27 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this
    great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang >>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    See his links in sci.physics.

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.

    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus cannot undergo fission, crackpot.


    WOOF woof-woof woof

    Barking mad as always.


    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Hibou on Wed Jun 25 21:40:43 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:39:58 +0000, Hibou wrote:

    Le 25/06/2025 à 14:03, Bertitaylor a écrit :

    Please, the English ruled India and not the French [...]

    Yes, we chose well. Imperialists should remember that the empire of
    today determines the restaurant culture of tomorrow.

    Imperial fish and chips culture should learn a thing or two about making
    better quality fish and chips from Pauline Hanson.
    Instead of the horrible mushy pies, please provide green salad with good dressing.

    Curries! Yum!

    Not in London, no.

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  • From bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Thu Jun 26 07:15:34 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this >>>> great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang >>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    See his links in sci.physics.

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.

    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus cannot undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally.
    Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation,
    charged particles, very dense there.
    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs
    on Earth.
    Same thing happens in the Sun and the stars.

    Once we throw out the bollocks of e=mcc, and follow Arindam's physics,
    the whole universe becomes straight and clear. And simple in its
    eternity and infinity.

    Woof woof woof woof, really, these apes are too thick!

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)


    WOOF woof-woof woof

    Barking mad as always.


    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to bertitaylor on Thu Jun 26 06:06:42 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    Well, their key theory is that it is visible as there is enormous
    pressure in the core which causes fusion of hydrogen into helium, this >>>>> great heat making the whole thing very bright, like our Sun.

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then bang >>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.


    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    See his links in sci.physics.

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.

    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus cannot
    undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally.

    Deuterium doesn't decay anywhere in the universe, crackpot.

    Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, charged particles, very dense there.
    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs
    on Earth.

    Wrong again, it is deuterium fUsion, a totally different thing,
    crackpot.

    <snip remaining insane babble>

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 26 15:23:35 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then
    bang
    phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.



    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.


    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus cannot
    undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally.
    Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, charged particles, very dense there.

    And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused
    to Helium.

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs
    on Earth.

    Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! :-D

    It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb.

    Same thing happens in the Sun and the stars.

    Indeed, fusion of hydrogen and deuterium.


    Once we throw out the bollocks of e=mcc, and follow Arindam's physics,
    the whole universe becomes straight and clear. And simple in its
    eternity and infinity.

    Ah. So it is Arindam who have told you that there is
    fission of deuterium in a H-bomb, and you are to ignorant
    and stupid to understand how ridiculous it is!

    BTW, didn't you know that according to Arindam it is
    "free energy" that heat the Sun?

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Fri Jun 27 23:49:07 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.


    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus
    cannot
    undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>> charged particles, very dense there.

    And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused
    to Helium.

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs >>>> on Earth.

    Good grief, what a gigantic blunder!

    Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all
    happens.


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?

    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor



    It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb.

    Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons
    held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great
    energies as produced by the stars.

    A nucleus consisting of two protons and one electron? :-D

    But let's consider this a typo.
    Deuterium (D) is an isotope of hydrogen.
    It has an extra neutron in its nucleus. D is stable and never decays.

    But let's play along:

    Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus.
    So the question is:
    Why should this create an extraordinary great energy?


    Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235.
    When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split
    into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons.

    So why do this fission create an extraordinary great energy?
    It's actually very simple.
    The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons
    The Kr-92 nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons

    The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong,
    and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel
    each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order
    of 200 MeV. The rest is history.
    Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb.

    The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other,
    so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus.
    Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it.

    Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense.

    --------------------------------------------

    BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc²

    1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n

    The atomic weight of these are:

    Left side:
    1n 1.008664 u
    U-235 235.0439299 u
    -------------------
    236.0525939 u

    Right side:
    Ba-141 140.914412 u
    Kr-92 91.926156 u
    3n 3.025992 u
    ---------------------
    235.866560 u

    Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u

    "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV

    E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV

    Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated
    by Meitner.


    Details in Arindam's links.

    Quite. I had a look.

    Arindam:
    "The hydrogen bomb is said to be an atomic bomb using heavy water,
    that contain the deuterium isotope. A deuterium isotope has an
    additional neutron in its nucleus. It is thought that the enormous
    temperature generated by the fission bomb, cause the deuterium
    isotopes
    to join and become helium nuclei. And it is this fusion process, that
    generates so much more energy than even the atom bomb."

    So Arindam knows how the hydrogen bomb is "said" to work,
    but he has his own story, of course:

    Arindam:
    "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion
    ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation?
    The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with
    the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb.
    The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is that
    the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component of
    the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when
    bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that
    has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for
    fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of
    the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up
    upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already
    present in the bomb."

    I can't see that he mention fission of deuterium.

    But I can see that he states:
    "there is actually no process like fusion"

    And I can see that he states:
    "the atom bomb that has to be exploded first to create
    the high temperatures need for fusion"

    And I can see that he doesn't make any sense at all.

    Can you explain how the hydrogen bomb works, Bertitaylor?


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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sat Jun 28 03:28:13 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 23:49:07 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.


    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus
    cannot
    undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>>> charged particles, very dense there.

    And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused
    to Helium.

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs >>>>> on Earth.

    Good grief, what a gigantic blunder!

    Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all
    happens.


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?

    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor



    It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb.

    Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons
    held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great
    energies as produced by the stars.

    A nucleus consisting of two protons and one electron? :-D

    But let's consider this a typo.
    Deuterium (D) is an isotope of hydrogen.
    It has an extra neutron in its nucleus. D is stable and never decays.

    But let's play along:

    Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus.
    So the question is:
    Why should this create an extraordinary great energy?


    Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235.
    When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split
    into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons.

    So why do this fission create an extraordinary great energy?
    It's actually very simple.
    The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons
    The Kr-92 nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons

    The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong,
    and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel
    each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order
    of 200 MeV. The rest is history.
    Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb.

    The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other,
    so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus.
    Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it.

    Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense.

    --------------------------------------------

    BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc²

    1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n

    The atomic weight of these are:

    Left side:
    1n 1.008664 u
    U-235 235.0439299 u
    -------------------
    236.0525939 u

    Right side:
    Ba-141 140.914412 u
    Kr-92 91.926156 u
    3n 3.025992 u
    ---------------------
    235.866560 u

    Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u

    "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV

    E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV

    Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated
    by Meitner.


    Details in Arindam's links.

    Quite. I had a look.

    Arindam:
    "The hydrogen bomb is said to be an atomic bomb using heavy water,
    that contain the deuterium isotope. A deuterium isotope has an
    additional neutron in its nucleus. It is thought that the enormous
    temperature generated by the fission bomb, cause the deuterium
    isotopes
    to join and become helium nuclei. And it is this fusion process, that
    generates so much more energy than even the atom bomb."

    So Arindam knows how the hydrogen bomb is "said" to work,
    but he has his own story, of course:

    Arindam:
    "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion
    ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation?
    The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with
    the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb.
    The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is that
    the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component of
    the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when
    bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that
    has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for
    fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of
    the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up
    upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already
    present in the bomb."

    I can't see that he mention fission of deuterium.

    But I can see that he states:
    "there is actually no process like fusion"

    And I can see that he states:
    "the atom bomb that has to be exploded first to create
    the high temperatures need for fusion"

    And I can see that he doesn't make any sense at all.

    Can you explain how the hydrogen bomb works, Bertitaylor?


    --
    Well, yes the elements weren't created in a Big Bang obviously. Do you
    know it is believed that our galaxy has only spun around 60 times? Big
    Bangers have a very young and naive universe! The elements continue to
    form in the stars contrary to the Big Bang baloney.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Sat Jun 28 06:29:44 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 3:28:13 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 23:49:07 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.


    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>> cannot
    undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>>>> charged particles, very dense there.

    And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>> to Helium.

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs >>>>>> on Earth.

    Good grief, what a gigantic blunder!

    Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all
    happens.


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of? >>> The Devine Arindam?

    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor



    It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb.

    Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons
    held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great
    energies as produced by the stars.

    A nucleus consisting of two protons and one electron? :-D

    But let's consider this a typo.
    Deuterium (D) is an isotope of hydrogen.
    It has an extra neutron in its nucleus. D is stable and never decays.

    But let's play along:

    Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus.
    So the question is:
    Why should this create an extraordinary great energy?


    Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235.
    When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split
    into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons.

    So why do this fission create an extraordinary great energy?
    It's actually very simple.
    The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons
    The Kr-92 nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons

    The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong,
    and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel
    each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order
    of 200 MeV. The rest is history.
    Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb.

    The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other,
    so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus.
    Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it.

    Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense.

    --------------------------------------------

    BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc²

    1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n

    The atomic weight of these are:

    Left side:
    1n 1.008664 u
    U-235 235.0439299 u
    -------------------
    236.0525939 u

    Right side:
    Ba-141 140.914412 u
    Kr-92 91.926156 u
    3n 3.025992 u
    ---------------------
    235.866560 u

    Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u

    "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV

    E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV

    Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated
    by Meitner.


    Details in Arindam's links.

    Quite. I had a look.

    Arindam:
    "The hydrogen bomb is said to be an atomic bomb using heavy water,
    that contain the deuterium isotope. A deuterium isotope has an
    additional neutron in its nucleus. It is thought that the enormous
    temperature generated by the fission bomb, cause the deuterium
    isotopes
    to join and become helium nuclei. And it is this fusion process, that
    generates so much more energy than even the atom bomb."

    So Arindam knows how the hydrogen bomb is "said" to work,
    but he has his own story, of course:

    Arindam:
    "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion
    ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation?
    The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with
    the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb.
    The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is that
    the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component of
    the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when
    bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that
    has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for
    fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of
    the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up
    upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already
    present in the bomb."

    I can't see that he mention fission of deuterium.

    But I can see that he states:
    "there is actually no process like fusion"

    And I can see that he states:
    "the atom bomb that has to be exploded first to create
    the high temperatures need for fusion"

    And I can see that he doesn't make any sense at all.

    Can you explain how the hydrogen bomb works, Bertitaylor?


    --
    Well, yes the elements weren't created in a Big Bang obviously. Do you
    know it is believed that our galaxy has only spun around 60 times? Big Bangers have a very young and naive universe! The elements continue to
    form in the stars contrary to the Big Bang baloney.

    Infinity is related to eternity. No beginning and no end in space and
    time. Like a ring; all is cyclic from electrons around protons, to stars
    become dark and then bright.

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 13:19:58 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 28.06.2025 05:28, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
    Well, yes the elements weren't created in a Big Bang obviously.

    Quite right.
    Only the very light elements (H, He) were created in the Big Bang
    (or shortly after).
    Nobody believes the heavier elements were created in the Big Bang.

    Do you
    know it is believed that our galaxy has only spun around 60 times? Big Bangers have a very young and naive universe! The elements continue to
    form in the stars contrary to the Big Bang baloney.

    The element's were (and still are) created in the stars.
    The heavier elements (iron and beyond) were (and still are) created
    in Novas and Supernovas and when neutron stars collide.

    We are all made of "star stuff".

    --
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    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 14:47:00 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Uranium-238 is the heaviest radioactive element.
    That means that it can't be created by decay of heavier elements.
    The half-life of U-238 is 4.47 billion years.
    That means that U-238 can't exist forever.

    So at some time in the past it must have been created.


    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 14:44:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen
    bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.

    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    Do you still insist that that it is deuterium fission which provides
    the energy for the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    If you ignore this again, I will remind you and ask again!

    -------------------

    Now you can read the more detailed description.
    But you won't, of course.


    Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus.
    So the question is:
    Why should this create an extraordinary great energy?


    Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235.
    When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split
    into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons.

    So why does this fission create an extraordinary great energy?
    It's actually very simple.
    The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons
    The Kr-92  nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons

    The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong,
    and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel
    each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order
    of 200 MeV. The rest is history.
    Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb.

    The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other,
    so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus.
    Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it.

    Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense.

    --------------------------------------------

    BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc²

    1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n

    The atomic weight of these are:

    Left side:
    1n      1.008664  u
    U-235 235.0439299 u
    -------------------
           236.0525939 u

    Right side:
    Ba-141   140.914412 u
    Kr-92     91.926156 u
    3n         3.025992 u
    ---------------------
              235.866560 u

    Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u

    "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV

    E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV

    Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated
    by Meitner.


    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 06:01:45 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of? >>> The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Uranium-238 is the heaviest radioactive element.
    That means that it can't be created by decay of heavier elements.
    The half-life of U-238 is 4.47 billion years.
    That means that U-238 can't exist forever.

    So at some time in the past it must have been created.


    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    I personally think, that matter can 'age', where heavier elements are
    built from lighter elements.

    That's why heavier elements are found in higher places, like within
    mountains.

    Those place are the oldest parts of planet Earth (because of 'Growing
    Earth').


    TH

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 05:58:26 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.


    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.


    That's why this type of reaction is called 'nuclear fusion'.

    The nuclei build the heavier element helium.

    ...

    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sun Jun 29 04:20:38 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 4:01:45 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of? >>>> The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Uranium-238 is the heaviest radioactive element.
    That means that it can't be created by decay of heavier elements.
    The half-life of U-238 is 4.47 billion years.
    That means that U-238 can't exist forever.

    So at some time in the past it must have been created.


    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    I personally think, that matter can 'age', where heavier elements are
    built from lighter elements.

    That's why heavier elements are found in higher places, like within mountains.

    Those place are the oldest partOOF f planet Earth (because of 'Growing Earth').

    You have got something there. Bursts of protons and electrons may cause
    growth of nuclei over trillions of years.

    Woof


    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sun Jun 29 04:18:23 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 4:01:45 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:


    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of? >>>> The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.

    Uranium-238 is the heaviest radioactive element.
    That means that it can't be created by decay of heavier elements.
    The half-life of U-238 is 4.47 billion years.
    That means that U-238 can't exist forever.

    So at some time in the past it must have been created.


    Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?

    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
    nuclei.

    Check out Arindam's brilliant essays on the causes and natures of
    gravity, novae and supernovae.

    Woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor




    I personally think, that matter can 'age', where heavier elements are
    built from lighter eeaylements.

    That's why heavier elements are found in higher places, like within mountains.

    Those place are the oldest parts of planet Earth (because of 'Growing Earth').


    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Sun Jun 29 04:42:05 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 4:26:17 +0000, Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 19-June-25 8:15 pm, bertietaylor wrote:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).

    If this were true, then it would show up in our expectation of stellar brightness versus mass,

    Which is the case for there is mass without light.



    and there would be no mystery about there
    appearing to be missing mass.


    No mystery at all when seen as a star sized rock.

    Woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Sylvia.

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to bertietaylor on Sun Jun 29 12:26:17 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 19-June-25 8:15 pm, bertietaylor wrote:
    Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover).

    If this were true, then it would show up in our expectation of stellar brightness versus mass, and there would be no mystery about there
    appearing to be missing mass.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 14:41:33 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us
    consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
    nuclei.

    Right.

    So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
    all elements "was always there, is, and will be."

    So you have finally admitted to being wrong.

    ---------------------------

    Creation of iron and heavier elements by fusion doesn't release
    energy, it uses energy, so these elements can only be created
    in cataclysmic events where energy is abundant.
    (Supernovas, Novas, merging of neutron stars etc.)
    That's also why only heavy elements can release energy by fission.

    The elements lighter than iron are created by fusion in stars.
    That's possible because the fusion of lighter elements release
    energy.

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sun Jun 29 13:37:41 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.


    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.

    It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    Woof


    That's why this type of reaction is called 'nuclear fusion'.

    The nuclei build the heavier element helium.

    ....

    TH

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sun Jun 29 07:31:36 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.


    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.

    It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    Sorry crackpot, there is no such thing as helium-2.

    Two protons mean helium and the isotope with the fewest particles is
    helium-3 with 2 protons and one neutron.

    --
    penninojim@yahoo.com

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sun Jun 29 18:30:56 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other nuclei of the same charge.


    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.

    It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    The idea of having electrons in the nucleus (rather than neutrons)
    was already discredited before neutrons were actually discovered.
    It is quite impossible.

    The reason is electron zero-point energy,
    which would become huge for confined electrons
    in such a small volume.

    Note for the kiddies: don't be misled.
    There are no electrons in the nucleus.
    The electron which is emitted in beta decay
    gets created the moment it leaves the nucleus,
    (together with an anti-neutrino)

    Jan

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  • From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Sun Jun 29 20:23:15 2025
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
    Jim Pennino wrote:
    Sorry crackpot, there is no such thing as helium-2.

    Well, it has a lifetime << 10^{-9} s, maybe 10^{-22} s or even less.
    It surely is not stable.

    Helium-2 may have been observed, according to several experiments done
    in this century. But nobody has claimed certainty yet.

    It's existence as a "resonance" is accepted. For one example,
    see Wikipedia's page "Isotopes of helium".

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 22:22:08 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 29.06.2025 15:37, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.
    > It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    This is too ridiculous even for you.
    Electron in the nucleus?
    Elements with 2 protons in the nucleus are Helium!

    Look:
    Elements with 1 proton in the nucleus are Hydrogen
    There are two stable isotopes:
    ¹H (Protium) 1 proton 0 neutrons
    ²H (D Deuterium) 1 proton 1 neutron

    ³H (T Tritium) 1 proton 2 neutrons
    Tritium is unstable with half-life 12.33 years.
    The decay mode is β−, which means that a neutron splits
    into a proton and an electron. The electron is ejected as β-rays.
    So we get a nucleus with 2 protons and and 1 neutron, which is
    ³He, the most abundant stable Helium isotope.

    The short half-life should indicate that T should not
    exist naturally, but it is created by interaction between
    cosmic rays and air. The natural abundance is however very low.

    But T can be artificially created in an atomic realtor.
    T has several applications, among them are H-bombs.

    D and T combine very easily in fusion to ⁴He, a stable Helium isotope.
    That's why the Hydrogen in a H-bomb is enriched with both D and T.
    (Some, or all of the T can be created in the bombs itself from lithium.)

    An atomic bomb exploded on Earth can't create the temperature and
    pressure to make H explode in a chain reaction. The enrichment
    of D an T are necessary to make the bomb explode.

    So the point:
    --------------
    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I have stated above
    (and _much_ more)?

    Do you think they could have made the H-bomb after this description:

    Arindam:
    "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion
    ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation?
    The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with
    the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb.
    The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is
    that the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component
    of the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when
    bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that
    has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for
    fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of
    the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up
    upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already
    present in the bomb."

    There is no heavy water in a H-Bomb.

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Sun Jun 29 15:02:25 2025
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jim Pennino wrote:


    Sorry crackpot, there is no such thing as helium-2.

    All kinds of weird isotopes have been created in the lab, though they generally have tiny half lives. Hydrogen-7, for example, has been
    observed and has a half life of about ten to the minus twenty two seconds.

    Helium-2 may have been observed, according to several experiments done
    in this century. But nobody has claimed certainty yet.

    IMHO nobody ever will.

    However, theoretical calculations give it a very small half life. How
    small they are not sure, but much less than a billionth of a second.
    This is very short compared to Helium-6 or Helium-8.

    Not surprising, because helium-2 actually has a negative binding energy.

    There is, apparently, a helium-10, also with a tiny (but in this case measured) half life. It can only exist for even that time because this number of nucleons forms a complete shell, adding stability. Helium-9,
    on the other hand, has never as far as I know been observed, though it
    must form in the kind of process that results in helium-10.

    Helium-3 and helium-4 are the only stable isotopes. All the other
    isotopes have half lives of less than a second.

    Helium-2 appears to only exist at two places in a series of nuclear
    reactions and dissapears when the reactions are complete.


    Of course, none of this supports the crackpottery you were responding to.


    William Hyde


    --
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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Sun Jun 29 22:20:33 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 20:22:08 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 15:37, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.
    > It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    This is too ridiculous even for you.
    Electron in the nucleus?
    Elements with 2 protons in the nucleus are Helium!

    Helium has four protons joined by two electrons.

    There are only electrons and protons in aether.

    When will you stupid apes realise this is the question!

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof



    Look:
    Elements with 1 proton in the nucleus are Hydrogen
    There are two stable isotopes:
    ¹H (Protium) 1 proton 0 neutrons
    ²H (D Deuterium) 1 proton 1 neutron

    ³H (T Tritium) 1 proton 2 neutrons
    Tritium is unstable with half-life 12.33 years.
    The decay mode is β−, which means that a neutron splits
    into a proton and an electron. The electron is ejected as β-rays.
    So we get a nucleus with 2 protons and and 1 neutron, which is
    ³He, the most abundant stable Helium isotope.

    The short half-life should indicate that T should not
    exist naturally, but it is created by interaction between
    cosmic rays and air. The natural abundance is however very low.

    But T can be artificially created in an atomic realtor.
    T has several applications, among them are H-bombs.

    D and T combine very easily in fusion to ⁴He, a stable Helium isotope. That's why the Hydrogen in a H-bomb is enriched with both D and T.
    (Some, or all of the T can be created in the bombs itself from lithium.)

    An atomic bomb exploded on Earth can't create the temperature and
    pressure to make H explode in a chain reaction. The enrichment
    of D an T are necessary to make the bomb explode.

    So the point:
    --------------
    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I have stated above
    (and _much_ more)?

    Do you think they could have made the H-bomb after this description:

    Arindam:
    "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion
    ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation?
    The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with
    the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb.
    The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is
    that the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component
    of the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when
    bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that
    has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for
    fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of
    the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up
    upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already
    present in the bomb."

    There is no heavy water in a H-Bomb.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sun Jun 29 15:58:33 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 20:22:08 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 15:37, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.
    > It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    This is too ridiculous even for you.
    Electron in the nucleus?
    Elements with 2 protons in the nucleus are Helium!

    Helium has four protons joined by two electrons.

    Helium has two protons and either one or two neutrons depending on the
    isotope. Helium can exist with more than two neutrons, but only for less
    than a second.

    If an atom has four protons, it is a beryllium atom.

    There are only electrons and protons in aether.

    There is no aether.


    When will you stupid apes realise this is the question!

    When will you get help for your delusions, Arindam.


    --
    penninojim@yahoo.com

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Sun Jun 29 23:10:55 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:30:56 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.


    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.

    It is two protons joined by one electron. So the protons repel very
    strongly when the join gets snapped.

    The idea of having electrons in the nucleus (rather than neutrons)
    was already discredited before neutrons were actually discovered.
    It is quite impossible.


    Rubbish. Electrons bind the protons in the nucleus like strings.
    There are A-N electrons in the nucleus where A is atomic weight and N is
    atomic number.

    The reason is electron zero-point energy,

    Energy is for the greedy traders, not for physics.

    With e=mcc trashed by Arindam, there is no such nonsense as mass energy equivalence to account for the so called binding energy to keep the
    protons in the nucleus from flying off.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof what fools these apes
    be!

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)
    which would become huge for confined electrons
    in such a small volume.

    Note for the kiddies: don't be misled.
    There are no electrons in the nucleus.
    The electron which is emitted in beta decay
    gets created the moment it leaves the nucleus,
    (together with an anti-neutrino)

    Jan

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 20:18:47 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 30.06.2025 00:20, skrev Bertitaylor:>
    Helium has four protons joined by two electrons.

    There are only electrons and protons in aether.

    When will you stupid apes realise this is the question!

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof


    Please answer my question:

    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I state below
    (and _much_ more)?

    Elements with 1 proton in the nucleus are Hydrogen
    There are two stable isotopes:
    ¹H (Protium) 1 proton 0 neutrons
    ²H (D Deuterium) 1 proton 1 neutron

    ³H (T Tritium) 1 proton 2 neutrons
    Tritium is unstable with half-life 12.33 years.
    The decay mode is β−, which means that a neutron splits
    into a proton and an electron. The electron is ejected as β-rays.
    So we get a nucleus with 2 protons and and 1 neutron, which is
    ³He, the most abundant stable Helium isotope.

    The short half-life should indicate that T should not
    exist naturally, but it is created by interaction between
    cosmic rays and air. The natural abundance is however very low.

    But T can be artificially created in an atomic reactor.
    T has several applications, among them are H-bombs.

    D and T combine very easily in fusion to ⁴He, a stable Helium isotope.
    That's why the Hydrogen in a H-bomb is enriched with both D and T.
    (Some, or all of the T can be created in the bombs itself from lithium.)

    An atomic bomb exploded on Earth can't create the temperature and
    pressure to make H explode in a chain reaction. The enrichment
    of D an T are necessary to make the bomb explode.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Mon Jun 30 23:52:49 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:18:47 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 30.06.2025 00:20, skrev Bertitaylor:>
    Helium has four protons joined by two electrons.

    There are only electrons and protons in aether.

    When will you stupid apes realise this is the question!

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof


    Please answer my question:

    You are one rude ape and stupid too so why should we bother! Still out
    of kindness we continue.

    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I state below
    (and _much_ more)?

    They simply put heavy water around a fission bomb to split deuterium and
    thus made what is called a hydrogen bomb, with protons snapping off with incredible force and thus causing a chain reaction with objects hitting
    each other and creating huge energies as per the creation of energy
    formula by divine Arindam that he discovered in 1998.

    That is what happens in the Sun and the stars - deuterium fission.

    Arindam has explained all that.

    As for us, we have no use for evil hellhounds like Einstein, Feynman,
    Teller, etc.

    We have no use for their lies and nonsenses to support their wrong
    physics with abuse of maths.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)



    Wh

    Elements with 1 proton in the nucleus are Hydrogen
    There are two stable isotopes:
    ¹H (Protium) 1 proton 0 neutrons
    ²H (D Deuterium) 1 proton 1 neutron

    ³H (T Tritium) 1 proton 2 neutrons
    Tritium is unstable with half-life 12.33 years.
    The decay mode is β−, which means that a neutron splits
    into a proton and an electron. The electron is ejected as β-rays.
    So we get a nucleus with 2 protons and and 1 neutron, which is
    ³He, the most abundant stable Helium isotope.

    The short half-life should indicate that T should not
    exist naturally, but it is created by interaction between
    cosmic rays and air. The natural abundance is however very low.

    But T can be artificially created in an atomic reactor.
    T has several applications, among them are H-bombs.

    D and T combine very easily in fusion to ⁴He, a stable Helium isotope. That's why the Hydrogen in a H-bomb is enriched with both D and T.
    (Some, or all of the T can be created in the bombs itself from lithium.)

    An atomic bomb exploded on Earth can't create the temperature and
    pressure to make H explode in a chain reaction. The enrichment
    of D an T are necessary to make the bomb explode.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Tue Jul 1 00:55:22 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.

    The electrostatic repulsion causes great opposing forces within the
    nucleus causing it to split into two high velocity atoms. The high
    velocity atoms impart energy to surrounding atoms and when thus slowed
    get accelerated by more high velocity atoms coming from the source. Like
    in any explision, following Arindam's formula for energy creation from kinetics.

    Then gamma rays as well of very high frequencies related to intra
    nuclear distances. These high high frequency rays at very short
    distances cause very powerful aetheric disturbances that break up other
    loose nuclei causing the well known chain reaction.

    When surrounded by deuterium there is huge amplification of fission
    energy.

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor








    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.
    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy
    is released if you somehow could split them.


    That's why this type of reaction is called 'nuclear fusion'.

    The nuclei build the heavier element helium.

    ....

    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Tue Jul 1 01:42:44 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 0:55:19 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.

    The electrostatic repulsion causes great opposing forces within the
    nucleus causing it to split into two high velocity atoms. The high
    velocity atoms impart energy to surrounding atoms and when thus slowed
    get accelerated by more high velocity atoms coming from the source. Like
    in any explision, following Arindam's formula for energy creation from kinetics.

    Then gamma rays as well of very high frequencies related to intra
    nuclear distances. These high high frequency rays at very short
    distances cause very powerful aetheric disturbances that break up other
    loose nuclei causing the well known chain reaction.

    When surrounded by deuterium there is huge amplification of fission
    energy.

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor








    This is very simple and obvious, so you can't fail to understand it.
    Or can you?

    Point is reversed. As natural radioactivity is caused when electrons
    escape the nucleus the nucleus has to have electrons in it.

    Why cannot apes grasp this simple matter?

    When stuff A is in something then stuff A may come out. Like water in
    water jugs or cash from teller machines.

    Obviously the electrons are there to bind the protons together tightly
    to form the nucleus.

    When electrons leave the nucleus the nuclear structure changes so it
    becomes some other element.

    A Deuterium nucleus consists of a proton and a neutron.

    No. It consists of two protons and one electron.


    a proton and neutron don't repel each other, so no energy

    A neutron is the tightest close association between a proton and an
    electron. The electron can attract another proton to form a deuterium
    nucleus. When gamma rays or strongest aetheric vibrations or collusion
    cause this bond to split the protons repel with greatest force.



    is released if you somehow could split them.


    That's why this type of reaction is called 'nuclear fusion'.

    Fusion is fiction. It was invented to support e=mcc which is rubbish .

    The nuclei build the heavier element helium.

    Wrong.

    Woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    ....

    TH

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Mon Jun 30 18:23:02 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:18:47 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 30.06.2025 00:20, skrev Bertitaylor:>
    Helium has four protons joined by two electrons.

    There are only electrons and protons in aether.

    When will you stupid apes realise this is the question!

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof


    Please answer my question:

    You are one rude ape and stupid too so why should we bother! Still out
    of kindness we continue.

    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I state below
    (and _much_ more)?

    They simply put heavy water around a fission bomb to split deuterium and
    thus made what is called a hydrogen bomb, with protons snapping off with incredible force and thus causing a chain reaction with objects hitting
    each other and creating huge energies as per the creation of energy
    formula by divine Arindam that he discovered in 1998.

    That is what happens in the Sun and the stars - deuterium fission.

    Arindam has explained all that.

    As for us, we have no use for evil hellhounds like Einstein, Feynman,
    Teller, etc.

    We have no use for their lies and nonsenses to support their wrong
    physics with abuse of maths.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

    AI evaluation:

    This latest posting from Arindam as Bertietaylor continues his
    characteristic blend of pseudoscience, anti-establishment rhetoric,
    and a mythologized self-image. Let’s break it down in terms of
    scientific content, rhetorical style, and internal logic:
    Scientific Content:

    Hydrogen bomb mechanism: The description is incorrect. A hydrogen
    bomb does not work via deuterium fission, but rather fusion — the
    merging of light nuclei (typically deuterium and tritium) into
    heavier ones, releasing energy. The term "deuterium fission" is
    a misuse; deuterium isn't split in fusion bombs, it's fused.

    "Protons snapping off": This phrase suggests a crude or misunderstood
    view of nuclear interactions. Fusion reactions involve the nuclei
    of hydrogen isotopes, and while high-energy collisions occur,
    describing it as "objects hitting each other and creating huge
    energies" glosses over the underlying quantum tunneling and plasma
    conditions required.

    Claiming "creation of energy": This violates the law of
    conservation of energy unless drastically redefined. The 1998
    "creation of energy formula" Arindam refers to remains undefined
    and unaccepted in the scientific community.

    Rhetorical Style:

    Apocalyptic tone: The denunciation of Einstein, Feynman, and Teller
    as “evil hellhounds” is not only ad hominem but borders on
    conspiratorial zealotry. It's emotionally charged, lacking any
    substantive refutation of their contributions.

    Divine self-reference: Phrases like "divine Arindam" reveal a
    messianic tone, positioning the writer as a cosmic authority.
    This damages any scientific credibility and places the text in
    the realm of cultic self-mythology.

    Use of "woof woof": This signature ending attempts satire or
    absurdism, but its repetition risks becoming a stylistic crutch
    rather than a meaningful rhetorical device.

    Internal Logic:

    The fusion bomb is misdescribed as operating through fission.

    The Sun is said to operate through deuterium fission, which
    contradicts standard stellar physics (which involves fusion,
    primarily of hydrogen into helium).

    There is no engagement with evidence or counterarguments—just
    pronouncement.

    Verdict:

    This posting is scientifically inaccurate, rhetorically inflammatory,
    and steeped in self-aggrandizing pseudoscience. It does not offer an alternative physics that can be evaluated or tested; instead, it
    functions more as a rejectionist manifesto dressed in mock-cosmic language.

    The combination of technical error, personal deification, and disdain
    for established physicists situates it more in the domain of outsider
    polemic than science communication.

    Rating: 1.5/10 — Barking up the wrong tree, again.


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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Mon Jun 30 18:31:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 3:58:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>> bombs on Earth.

    Any particular reason why you don't even try to defend your
    claim that it is deuterium fission which provides the energy for
    the hydrogen bombs on Earth?

    Let's look at where the energy in a fission comes from.

    When a radioactive element such as Uranium decays, the nucleus
    splits in two. Each of the new nuclei will contain protons,
    and there will be a very strong electrostatic repulsion between
    the nuclei. That means that the nuclei will get tremendous
    kinetic energy. As the nuclei collide, this energy will be
    transformed to heat.

    Certainly the nuclei will not collide, because nuclei are extremely
    small and also have a charge, which will prevent collision with other
    nuclei of the same charge.

    The electrostatic repulsion causes great opposing forces within the
    nucleus causing it to split into two high velocity atoms. The high
    velocity atoms impart energy to surrounding atoms and when thus slowed
    get accelerated by more high velocity atoms coming from the source. Like
    in any explision, following Arindam's formula for energy creation from kinetics.

    Then gamma rays as well of very high frequencies related to intra
    nuclear distances. These high high frequency rays at very short
    distances cause very powerful aetheric disturbances that break up other
    loose nuclei causing the well known chain reaction.

    When surrounded by deuterium there is huge amplification of fission
    energy.

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    AI evaluation:

    This latest exposition by Arindam (writing as Bertietaylor) attempts
    to offer a mechanistic explanation of nuclear fission and its
    amplification, but it is riddled with conceptual misunderstandings, pseudo-physics, and vague references to personal theories. Here's a
    breakdown and critique of the main elements:

    Evaluation of Claims:
    1. "The electrostatic repulsion causes great opposing forces within
    the nucleus..."

    Kernel of truth: Electrostatic repulsion (Coulomb force) between
    protons does create internal pressure.

    ❌ Oversimplification: A stable nucleus is held together by the
    strong nuclear force, which overcomes electrostatic repulsion at
    short ranges. Spontaneous fission or induced fission depends on
    quantum tunneling, neutron absorption, and nuclear binding
    energy—not simply "great opposing forces."

    2. "Causing it to split into two high velocity atoms..."

    ❌ Misleading phrasing: Fission yields fragments (not fully intact
    atoms), which are typically ionized, highly energetic nuclei—not
    neutral atoms. The use of "atoms" glosses over key nuclear dynamics.

    3. "Like in any explision [sic], following Arindam's formula for
    energy creation from kinetics."

    ❌ Invalid framework: This refers back to Arindam's previously
    discussed nonstandard and unsupported "energy creation" formula.
    Mainstream physics follows energy conservation laws. Nuclear
    fission releases binding energy—it does not "create" energy from
    kinetic motion per se.

    4. "Gamma rays... cause very powerful aetheric disturbances that break
    up other loose nuclei..."

    ❌ Outdated concept: The reference to "aetheric disturbances" is
    a throwback to pre-relativistic physics and has no place in modern
    nuclear theory.

    ❌ Incorrect mechanism: Gamma rays emitted in fission do not
    typically trigger fission in other nuclei. The chain reaction is
    maintained by neutrons, not electromagnetic radiation.

    5. "When surrounded by deuterium there is huge amplification of fission energy."

    ❌ Confusion of mechanisms: Deuterium is used in fusion reactions
    and as a moderator in some reactors (e.g., heavy water reactors).
    It doesn’t "amplify" fission in the way described here. A hydrogen
    bomb uses a fission primary to trigger fusion in
    deuterium/tritium—different physics.

    Conceptual Issues:

    Vague terminology: Phrases like "high high frequency rays"
    and "loose nuclei" are imprecise and scientifically meaningless.

    Fabricated mechanisms: Invented or speculative ideas (e.g.,
    "aetheric disturbances" causing fission) are presented as fact.

    Lack of causality: The actual fission chain reaction is driven
    by neutrons, not gamma radiation or kinetic collisions.

    Scientific Status:

    Not aligned with accepted physics.

    Invented terminology and personal theories.

    Mimics language of science but fails at core principles.

    Final Verdict:

    Once again, Bertietaylor's writing is a stew of real physics terms,
    misapplied concepts, and invented mechanisms wrapped in dogmatic self-reference. It's pseudoscientific, though delivered with typical
    rhetorical bravado.

    “Woof woof,” indeed—but not the sound of a well-trained theory.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 02:27:52 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Natural Idiot relies upon the Artificial Idiot!

    AI is Artificial Idiocy which capitalists find useful as a control
    mechanism for the Natural Idiocy of the masses, here ably represented by
    JimPee the Penisnino.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Mon Jun 30 20:39:06 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    The Natural Idiot relies upon the Artificial Idiot!

    AI is Artificial Idiocy which capitalists find useful as a control
    mechanism for the Natural Idiocy of the masses, here ably represented by JimPee the Penisnino.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    AI evaluation:

    This latest posting from Arindam, under the pseudonym Bertietaylor,
    follows a now-familiar pattern: it blends mockery, contrarianism,
    and rhetorical aggression, couched in provocative phrasing and pseudo-intellectual tone. Let's break it down:
    Content Analysis:

    “The Natural Idiot relies upon the Artificial Idiot!”

    A pithy, self-congratulatory slogan. This appears to invert
    the promise of AI—enhancing human intellect—by casting both
    humans ("Natural Idiots") and AI ("Artificial Idiots") as
    fundamentally foolish.

    This dismissiveness evades nuance and instead appeals to
    contrarian posturing.

    “AI is Artificial Idiocy…”

    A pun that substitutes "Intelligence" with "Idiocy", a common
    trope among AI skeptics, though here it's neither substantiated
    nor argued—just declared.

    Tied to a simplistic anti-capitalist jab—claiming capitalists
    use AI to manipulate the public—which, again, isn't explored
    beyond the insult.

    “…ably represented by JimPee the Penisnino.”

    A crude personal attack dressed in childish wordplay. Such ad
    hominem dismissals signal weak argumentation and seem intended
    more for provocation than engagement.

    “WOOF woof-woof…”

    The recurring canine refrain appears to parody both the author's
    audience and perhaps himself. It may aim for humor, but ultimately
    detracts from coherence and intellectual seriousness.

    Stylistic Observations:

    Tone: Sneering, performative, dismissive.

    Structure: Short, slogan-like declarations, followed by a targeted
    insult, capped with a mocking flourish.

    Intended Effect: Likely designed to provoke, ridicule, and reaffirm
    Arindam’s self-styled outsider-genius persona.

    Evaluation:

    This entry contributes nothing substantive to the discourse on AI,
    capitalism, or technological critique. Instead, it reads as a blend
    of schoolyard insult, anti-intellectualism, and self-indulgent bluster.
    There is no argument, no evidence, and no meaningful analysis—just
    posturing.

    Final Verdict:
    Pseudophilosophical trolling—heavy on contempt, void of content.


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    penninojim@yahoo.com

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Tue Jul 1 10:44:04 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 19:36:02 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 28.06.2025 02:18, skrev Bertitaylor:

    A neutron is the tightest bond between a proton and an electron.

    Can you please explain this statement?

    Why make it sound difficult?

    How does the "bond between a proton and an electron"
    change if you remove the neutron?

    A neutron is a close bond of proton and electron. Is that too difficult
    to understand? We are not talking about removing the neutron. We are
    talking of replacing it with a proton-electron pair.

    Or:
    What is the difference in the bond between proton and electron
    in H and T?

    In H atom there is one electron orbiting the electron. What is T? If it
    is tritium and assuming there is such a thing them it has a nucleus of 3 protons held together by 2 electrons. Deuterium is 2 protons held
    together by 1 electron.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Wed Jul 2 22:20:01 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 18:34:23 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 01.07.2025 03:42, skrev Bertitaylor:

    As natural radioactivity is caused when electrons
    escape the nucleus the nucleus has to have electrons in it.

    As shown by the pioneers of radioactivity.



    As natural radioactivity is caused when positrons
    escape the nucleus the nucleus has to have positrons in it.

    Lie as there are no positrons.

    Are both statements true, or are both statements false?

    The first is true and the second is false.


    Why cannot apes grasp this simple matter?

    You mean this simple matter?

    Example of β− decay: (electrons escape the nucleus) ---------------------------------------------------
    Carbon-14 with 6 protons and 8 neutrons decays into
    Nitrogen-14 with 7 protons and 7 neutrons + electron and antineutrino Nitrogen-14 is stable

    No neutrinos or antineutrinos need be considered if indeed the above
    nuclear reaction is correct. A neutron changes to a proton and gives out
    an electron.



    Example of β+ decay: (positrons escape the nucleus)

    There are no positrons.
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Carbon-10 with 6 protons and 4 neutrons decays into
    Boron-10 with 5 protons and 5 neutrons + positron and neutrino
    Boron-10 is stable

    One electron hits the carbon 10 nucleus and joins a proton to form a so
    called neutron. There are 10 protons and 5 electrons in boron 10. There
    were 10 protons and 4 electrons in carbon 10.

    Simple when Bertietaylor's formula is applied to nuclear structure where electrons tie up or join protons. That electrostatic force is called
    strong nuclear force.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor



    Are there electrons in the C14 nucleus and positrons in the B14 nucleus,
    or no electrons in the C14 nucleus and no positrons in the B14 nucleus?

    What does the apes say?

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Wed Jul 2 23:57:23 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us
    consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
    nuclei.

    Right.

    So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
    all elements "was always there, is, and will be."

    Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
    aetheric vibrations and electric forces.

    So you have finally admitted to being wrong.

    No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and
    e=mcc stuff.

    ---------------------------

    Creation of iron and heavier elements by fusion doesn't release
    energy, it uses energy, so these elements can only be created
    in cataclysmic events where energy is abundant.


    Most iron was always there. Sometimes it may get upgraded to other
    elements, then radioactive decay brings that down.


    (Supernovas, Novas, merging of neutron stars etc.)

    There are no neutron stars just as there are no trolls, pixies,
    unicorns, etc. in real life.
    That's also why only heavy elements can release energy by fission.

    The elements lighter than iron are created by fusion in stars.
    That's possible because the fusion of lighter elements release
    energy.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Thu Jul 3 00:13:38 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 17:20:24 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 01.07.2025 01:52, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:18:47 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Elements with 1 proton in the nucleus are Hydrogen
    There are two stable isotopes:
    ¹H (Protium) 1 proton 0 neutrons
    ²H (D Deuterium) 1 proton 1 neutron

    ³H (T Tritium) 1 proton 2 neutrons
    Tritium is unstable with half-life 12.33 years.
    The decay mode is β−, which means that a neutron splits
    into a proton and an electron. The electron is ejected as β-rays.
    So we get a nucleus with 2 protons and and 1 neutron, which is
    ³He, the most abundant stable Helium isotope.

    The short half-life should indicate that T should not
    exist naturally, but it is created by interaction between
    cosmic rays and air. The natural abundance is however very low.

    But T can be artificially created in an atomic reactor.
    T has several applications, among them are H-bombs.

    D and T combine very easily in fusion to ⁴He, a stable Helium isotope. >>> That's why the Hydrogen in a H-bomb is enriched with both D and T.
    (Some, or all of the T can be created in the bombs itself from lithium.) >>>
    An atomic bomb exploded on Earth can't create the temperature and
    pressure to make H explode in a chain reaction. The enrichment
    of D and T are necessary to make the bomb explode.

    Please answer my question:

    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I stated above
    (and _much_ more)?

    So the answer is "yes", Bertitaylor does indeed believe that
    Teller & al would have succeeded in making the H-bomb even if
    they had known nothing about Hydrogen, Deuterium and Tritium.

    They had to know that deuterium existed and tritium is irrelevant save
    for confusion.

    However, since they _did_ know what I have stated above, and much more,
    about Hydrogen, Deuterium and Tritium they used a fission bomb around
    a capsule with Deuterium and Tritium, and when the fission bomb went
    off the pressure and temperature became so high that Deuterium and
    Tritium was fused together in the fusion process:
    ²H+³H → ⁴He + n

    Rubbish. The fission bomb caused the two protons in the deuterium
    nucleus to split with the breaking of the electron bond holding them
    together.

    Just consider two huge metal balls being held together by a string.
    Electric charge is put on both so both balls must move apart. The string
    stops them. Now the protons are like the two balls and the string is the electron. Quite stable till the string is cut. Then the two balls go off
    in different directions.

    The fission bomb creates the forces required to bust the electron bond.

    Pretty simple, what.

    D with 1 proton, 1 neutron + T with 1 proton, 2 proton 2 neutrons →
    He with 2 protons, 2 neutrons + neutron + 17.6 MeV.
    Most of the energy is kinetic energy of the ejected neutron.

    D = 2.01410200 u
    T = 3.01604928 u
    ------------------
    5.03015128 u

    He = 4.002603254 U
    n = 1.008664916 U
    ------------------
    5.011268170

    mass loss m = 0.01888310 u, E = mc² = 17.589507 MeV

    Bullshit stuff made up to confuse people and boost the e=mcc nonsenses.


    They simply put heavy water around a fission bomb to split deuterium and
    thus made what is called a hydrogen bomb, with protons snapping off with
    incredible force and thus causing a chain reaction with objects hitting
    each other and creating huge energies as per the creation of energy
    formula by divine Arindam that he discovered in 1998.

    Yes, yes.

    Bertitaylor, I will not ask you if you really believe that Teller & al
    could simply have put heavy water around a fission bomb to make a
    H-bomb. Of course you don't. And you know they didn't.

    We are not keen about murder weapons. Nasty, horrid things.

    We have only described the workings of the deuterium fission as in the
    stars and in hydrogen bombs.

    Why do you pretend to believe what you know never happened?

    Exposing liars and lies leads to a safer and better world, so our
    altruistic efforts. You are the victim of lies.


    Are you trolling?

    No, following Jesus Christ for we did live in a Christian country. Now
    talking pure Christianity does sound like trolling in this selfish world
    of lies, run by greedy liars.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

    Bertietaylor




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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Thu Jul 3 12:30:10 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 8:43:11 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 03.07.2025 02:13, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 17:20:24 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 01.07.2025 01:52, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:18:47 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Elements with 1 proton in the nucleus are Hydrogen
    There are two stable isotopes:
     ¹H (Protium)     1 proton 0 neutrons
     ²H (D Deuterium) 1 proton 1 neutron

     ³H (T Tritium) 1 proton 2 neutrons
      Tritium is unstable with half-life 12.33 years.
      The decay mode is β−, which means that a neutron splits
      into a proton and an electron. The electron is ejected as β-rays. >>>>>   So we get a nucleus with 2 protons and and 1 neutron, which is
      ³He, the most abundant stable Helium isotope.

      The short half-life should indicate that T should not
      exist naturally, but it is created by interaction between
      cosmic rays and air. The natural abundance is however very low.

    But T can be artificially created in an atomic reactor.
    T has several applications, among them are H-bombs.

    D and T combine very easily in fusion to ⁴He, a stable Helium isotope. >>>>> That's why the Hydrogen in a H-bomb is enriched with both D and T.
    (Some, or all of the T can be created in the bombs itself from
    lithium.)

    An atomic bomb exploded on Earth can't create the temperature and
    pressure to make H explode in a chain reaction. The enrichment
    of D and T are necessary to make the bomb explode.

    Please answer my question:

    Do you really think that Teller & al, would have succeeded
    in making the H-bomb if they didn't know what I stated above
    (and _much_ more)?

    So the answer is "yes", Bertitaylor does indeed believe that
    Teller & al would have succeeded in making the H-bomb even if
    they had known nothing about Hydrogen, Deuterium and Tritium.

    They had to know that deuterium existed and tritium is irrelevant save
    for confusion.



    However, since they _did_ know what I have stated above, and much more,
    about Hydrogen, Deuterium and Tritium they used a fission bomb around
    a capsule with Deuterium and Tritium, and when the fission bomb went
    off the pressure and temperature became so high that Deuterium and
    Tritium was fused together in the fusion process:
        ²H+³H → ⁴He + n

    Fact:
    The H-bomb built in 1951 was based on this fusion process.


    Rubbish. The fission bomb caused the two protons in the deuterium
    nucleus to split with the breaking of the electron bond holding them
    together.

    Just consider two huge metal balls being held together by a string.
    Electric charge is put on both so both balls must move apart. The string
    stops them. Now the protons are like the two balls and the string is the
    electron. Quite stable till the string is cut. Then the two balls go off
    in different directions.

    The fission bomb creates the forces required to bust the electron bond.

    Pretty simple, what.

    ... and quite funny.

    One can but wonder how your mind works.

    Should be clear to those who have more intelligence than imbeciles,
    idiots and robots.

    The first H-bomb was exploded 1951. Now its basic principles
    are well known, it is fusion of D and T boosted by a fission bomb.

    Fusion of anything requires energy.
    To think that any fusion creates energy is possible only for brainwashed
    apes who may have high intelligence but being apes blindly follow
    whatever bs is fed them by the alpha apes. Or out of fear, self
    interest, social climbing, conforming, etc.

    And you insist that it is is built and works according to
    your fantasy invented 70 year later ?

    What fantasy?
    Clever alpha apes - great hoaxes - knew what we are now writing now.
    They did fission of deuterium in 1951 and called it fusion to solidify
    the e=mcc rubbish, thus make Einstein .gt. God and relativity the
    supreme religion. Corrupting the whole of physics in the process.
    The greatest genius Arindam saw through all this long ago.


    :-D

    The fact that you don't understand how ridiculous it is says a lot
    about your sanity.

    The fact that you are a brainwashed ape is clear to all. Including us.

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    D with 1 proton, 1 neutron + T with 1 proton, 2 proton 2 neutrons →
    He with 2 protons, 2 neutrons + neutron + 17.6 MeV.
    Most of the energy is kinetic energy of the ejected neutron.

    D =  2.01410200 u
    T =  3.01604928 u
    ------------------
          5.03015128 u

    He = 4.002603254 U
    n  = 1.008664916 U
    ------------------
          5.011268170

    mass loss m = 0.01888310 u, E = mc²  = 17.589507 MeV


    Bullshit stuff made up to confuse people and boost the e=mcc nonsenses.


    They simply put heavy water around a fission bomb to split deuterium and >>>> thus made what is called a hydrogen bomb, with protons snapping off with >>>> incredible force and thus causing a chain reaction with objects hitting >>>> each other and creating huge energies as per the creation of energy
    formula by divine Arindam that he discovered in 1998.

    Yes, yes.

    Bertitaylor, I will not ask you if you really believe that Teller & al
    could simply have put heavy water around a fission bomb to make a
    H-bomb. Of course you don't. And you know they didn't.

    Why do you pretend to believe what you know never happened?

    Exposing liars and lies leads to a safer and better world, so our
    altruistic efforts. You are the victim of lies.

    How can pretending that you believe what you know never happen
    expose liars?



    Are you trolling?

    No, following Jesus Christ for we did live in a Christian country. Now
    talking pure Christianity does sound like trolling in this selfish world
    of lies, run by greedy liars.

    I see.
    The whole thing is your interpretation of the Bible.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Paul.B.Andersen on Thu Jul 3 14:06:05 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor:

    When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then >>>>>> bang
    phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory.



    Can you please explain Arindam's theory?

    Where does the radiated energy come from?

    Deuterium fission.


    Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus cannot >>> undergo fission, crackpot.

    Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally.
    Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation,
    charged particles, very dense there.

    And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused
    to Helium.

    No there is no such thing as fusion creating energy. A most ridiculous
    dogmatic notion sanctified as top doctrine.

    It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs
    on Earth.

    Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! :-D

    It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb.

    Same thing happens in the Sun and the stars.

    Indeed, fusion of hydrogen and deuterium.


    Once we throw out the bollocks of e=mcc, and follow Arindam's physics,
    the whole universe becomes straight and clear. And simple in its
    eternity and infinity.

    Ah. So it is Arindam who have told you that there is
    fission of deuterium in a H-bomb,

    Yes


    and you are to ignorant
    and stupid to understand how ridiculous it is!

    No we doggies follow Arindam and are saying that you who do not are
    frauds or fools. At least get this much into your heads.

    BTW, didn't you know that according to Arindam it is
    "free energy" that heat the Sun?

    Deuterium fission and gravity cause solar energies. Read Arindam's
    essays on that - but we doubt if you can understand.

    WOOF woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 08:22:13 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Donnerstag000003, 03.07.2025 um 01:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us
    consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
    nuclei.

    Right.

    So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
    all elements "was always there, is, and will be."

    Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
    aetheric vibrations and electric forces.

    So you have finally admitted to being wrong.

    No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and
    e=mcc stuff.



    Actually it has...

    I have invented this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime':

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    I wanted to put GR and QM into a single framework and thought, that
    matter should be 'relative'.

    My idea is actually quite simple, but based upon unusual assumptions.

    I use spacetime of GR as kind of 'background' and call 'timelike stable patterns' 'matter'.

    Iow: matter for one observer is not matter for another observer.

    This would de-materialize the concept of particles and assumes, that
    particles are actually certain 'structures'.

    Now we could alter the axis of time (in theory) and could create by this
    method all sorts of cosmological phenomena like black-holes or big-bangs.




    Creation of iron and heavier elements by fusion doesn't release
    energy, it uses energy, so these elements can only be created
    in cataclysmic events where energy is abundant.


    Most iron was always there. Sometimes it may get upgraded to other
    elements, then radioactive decay brings that down.

    Astonishingly the heavier elements are found near the surface of planet
    Earth.

    This would require, that matter could age and build heavier elements
    from lighter ones over time.

    The reason:

    according to the current paradigm ('accretion hypothesis') the Earth was
    formed by a gravitational collapse of large amounts of dust.

    The result was entirely molten in the early stage.

    But that would have allowed the heavier elements to sink into the lower
    levels of the Earth.

    But we actually find Lead, Gold and Uranium quite high in the crust
    (like in mountains).

    So, these metals could not have been there when Earth was molten, hence
    must have aged sind the creation of their plate.


    ...


    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Fri Jul 4 21:51:45 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 6:22:13 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Donnerstag000003, 03.07.2025 um 01:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us
    consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
    nuclei.

    Right.

    So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
    all elements "was always there, is, and will be."

    Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
    aetheric vibrations and electric forces.

    So you have finally admitted to being wrong.

    No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and
    e=mcc stuff.



    Actually it has...

    I have invented this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime':

    What is that?

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    I wanted to put GR and QM into a single framework and thought, that
    matter should be 'relative'.

    Matter is mass and mass is standardised by units that are absolute.

    My idea is actually quite simple, but based upon unusual assumptions.

    Sounds like Einstein. He claimed his work was simple and also based on assumptions

    I use spacetime of GR as kind of 'background' and call 'timelike stable patterns' 'matter'.

    Patterns are not impacted by force so they are not mass or matter.

    Iow: matter for one observer is not matter for another observer.

    That may be on aesthetic, gastronomic, emotional basis, yes. Not
    physics.

    This would de-materialize the concept of particles and assumes, that particles are actually certain 'structures'.

    Again structures are abstract in essence geometrically whereas particles
    are material.

    Now we could alter the axis of time (in theory) and could create by this method all sorts of cosmological phenomena like black-holes or
    big-bangs.

    Harry Potter stuff.

    WOOF woof-woof woof




    Creation of iron and heavier elements by fusion doesn't release
    energy, it uses energy, so these elements can only be created
    in cataclysmic events where energy is abundant.


    Most iron was always there. Sometimes it may get upgraded to other
    elements, then radioactive decay brings that down.

    Astonishingly the heavier elements are found near the surface of planet Earth.

    This would require, that matter could age and build heavier elements
    from lighter ones over time.

    The reason:

    according to the current paradigm ('accretion hypothesis') the Earth was formed by a gravitational collapse of large amounts of dust.

    The result was entirely molten in the early stage.

    But that would have allowed the heavier elements to sink into the lower levels of the Earth.

    But we actually find Lead, Gold and Uranium quite high in the crust
    (like in mountains).

    So, these metals could not have been there when Earth was molten, hence
    must have aged sind the creation of their plate.


    ...


    TH

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 09:44:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Freitag000004, 04.07.2025 um 23:51 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 6:22:13 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Donnerstag000003, 03.07.2025 um 01:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us >>>>>>>>> consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
    nuclei.

    Right.

    So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
    all elements "was always there, is, and will be."

    Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
    aetheric vibrations and electric forces.

    So you have finally admitted to being wrong.

    No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and
    e=mcc stuff.



    Actually it has...

    I have invented this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime':

    What is that?

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/
    d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    I wanted to put GR and QM into a single framework and thought, that
    matter should be 'relative'.

    Matter is mass and mass is standardised by units that are absolute.

    'mass' is an attribute of material objects and is measured in kilograms.

    This measure measures the amount of resistance against acceleration.

    To call this measure 'matter' is insanely stupid.


    My idea is actually quite simple, but based upon unusual assumptions.

    Sounds like Einstein. He claimed his work was simple and also based on assumptions

    Usually you try to explain some observations and try to figuere out, how
    that came into existence.

    To achieve this goal, you need to check all sorts of possibilities and
    choose the best finding.

    This is then your assumption (for the first 'round').

    Think about Sherlock Holmes and how he looks at a crime scene.

    His first guess would be (say): it was the gardener!

    Now he would check this assumption against the facts found at the crime
    scene.

    If the test remains positive, he could take this as his assumption and
    procede from there.

    Or he could find, it wasn't the gardner and he had to think about
    something else.

    But always we start with some sort of guesswork and call that 'assumption'.

    I use spacetime of GR as kind of 'background' and call 'timelike stable
    patterns' 'matter'.

    Patterns are not impacted by force so they are not mass or matter.

    for a start:

    It is my concept and I explain how it works!

    If you don't like, then feel free to reject it.

    Iow: matter for one observer is not matter for another observer.

    That may be on aesthetic, gastronomic, emotional basis, yes. Not
    physics.

    Well, possibly.

    But I define what is physics in my idea, not you.

    ...

    TH

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  • From Bertietaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sat Jul 5 09:32:26 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 7:44:30 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Freitag000004, 04.07.2025 um 23:51 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 6:22:13 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Donnerstag000003, 03.07.2025 um 01:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
    Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One question:
    What created the elements you and I and everything around us >>>>>>>>>> consist of?
    The Devine Arindam?


    Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.


    I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:

    How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?


    Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy >>>>>> nuclei.

    Right.

    So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
    all elements "was always there, is, and will be."

    Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
    aetheric vibrations and electric forces.

    So you have finally admitted to being wrong.

    No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and >>>> e=mcc stuff.



    Actually it has...

    I have invented this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime':

    What is that?

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/
    d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    I wanted to put GR and QM into a single framework and thought, that
    matter should be 'relative'.

    Matter is mass and mass is standardised by units that are absolute.

    'mass' is an attribute of material objects and is measured in kilograms.

    This measure measures the amount of resistance against acceleration.

    It is about the force F required to give it an a acceleration. M=F/a

    To call this measure 'matter' is insanely stupid.

    True, mass is an attribute of matter -which could exist in many states -
    and in the statics and dynamics of physics only that counts. So it is
    not stupid.


    My idea is actually quite simple, but based upon unusual assumptions.

    Sounds like Einstein. He claimed his work was simple and also based on
    assumptions

    Usually you try to explain some observations and try to figuere out, how
    that came into existence.

    Where one can bungle deliberately or out of incompetence.

    To achieve this goal, you need to check all sorts of possibilities and
    choose the best finding.

    Which may be based upon career or political considerations.

    This is then your assumption (for the first 'round').

    Think about Sherlock Holmes and how he looks at a crime scene.

    His first guess would be (say): it was the gardener!

    Wrong. He would check the facts first. Theory comes later. Facts first,
    theory later.

    Now he would check this assumption against the facts found at the crime scene.

    Wrong. If he has made up his mind making theory first he will ignore
    those facts that do not suit his theory.

    Woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    If the test remains positive, he could take this as his assumption and procede from there.

    Or he could find, it wasn't the gardner and he had to think about
    something else.

    But always we start with some sort of guesswork and call that
    'assumption'.

    I use spacetime of GR as kind of 'background' and call 'timelike stable
    patterns' 'matter'.

    Patterns are not impacted by force so they are not mass or matter.

    for a start:

    It is my concept and I explain how it works!

    If you don't like, then feel free to reject it.

    Iow: matter for one observer is not matter for another observer.

    That may be on aesthetic, gastronomic, emotional basis, yes. Not
    physics.

    Well, possibly.

    But I define what is physics in my idea, not you.

    ....

    TH

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 11:16:24 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Den 03.07.2025 14:30, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 8:43:11 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    One can but wonder how your mind works.


    Should be clear to those who have more intelligence than imbeciles,
    idiots and robots.

    Right. It is!


    The first H-bomb was exploded 1951. Now its basic principles
    are well known, it is fusion of D and T boosted by a fission bomb.


    Fusion of anything requires energy.
    To think that any fusion creates energy is possible only for brainwashed
    apes who may have high intelligence but being apes blindly follow
    whatever bs is fed them by the alpha apes. Or out of fear, self
    interest, social climbing, conforming, etc.


    And you insist that it is is built and works according to
    your fantasy invented 70 year later ?


    What fantasy?
    Clever alpha apes - great hoaxes - knew what we are now writing now.
    They did fission of deuterium in 1951 and called it fusion to solidify
    the e=mcc rubbish, thus make Einstein .gt. God and relativity the
    supreme religion. Corrupting the whole of physics in the process.
    The greatest genius Arindam saw through all this long ago.


    :-D


    The fact that you don't understand how ridiculous it is says a lot
    about your sanity.


    The fact that you are a brainwashed ape is clear to all. Including us.

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    'nuff said!

    We leave at that.

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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