• Rockets are for fireworks - Arindam

    From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 01:14:09 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    In 1998 Arindam discovered that energy gets created and destroyed as per
    the equation e=0.5mvvN(N-k).

    In 1999 he elaborated upon that in his incredibly wonderful book "To the stars!". How that formula naturally led to faster than light travel in
    internal force engines, aka reaction less motors.

    The first chapter was titled "Rockets are for fireworks". Really rockets
    are useless for proper space travel. While best used for fireworks they
    are as we find most used for nasty purposes, as missiles for killing
    people.

    Somebody should tell Elon Musk about this simple fact. With less than a
    tenth of the cost of Elon's most recent blazing space rocket failure,
    Arindam can create a reaction less motor following his physics. In due
    course it's derivatives will take his ashes to the stars, and back.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Thu Jun 19 18:56:35 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    In 1998 Arindam discovered that energy gets created and destroyed as per
    the equation e=0.5mvvN(N-k).

    In 1999 he elaborated upon that in his incredibly wonderful book "To the stars!". How that formula naturally led to faster than light travel in internal force engines, aka reaction less motors.

    The first chapter was titled "Rockets are for fireworks". Really rockets
    are useless for proper space travel. While best used for fireworks they
    are as we find most used for nasty purposes, as missiles for killing
    people.

    Somebody should tell Elon Musk about this simple fact. With less than a
    tenth of the cost of Elon's most recent blazing space rocket failure,
    Arindam can create a reaction less motor following his physics. In due
    course it's derivatives will take his ashes to the stars, and back.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

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    AI evalutation:

    This text appears to be a mixture of pseudoscientific claims, satire or hyperbole, and informal or performative writing (e.g., the "WOOF
    woof-woof" and reference to "cyberdogs"). Here's a breakdown of its
    content and tone:
    `
    Scientific Claims Evaluation:

    Claim: "Energy gets created and destroyed as per the equationr
    e = 0.5mvvN(N–k)."

    This formula resembles the classical kinetic energy expression
    E=12mv2E=21​mv2, but with extra unexplained variables NN
    and kk. There is no known derivation or accepted physical theory
    involving such an equation that allows for creation or destruction
    of energy, which directly violates the law of conservation of
    energy — a foundational principle in physics.

    The phrase "energy gets created and destroyed" is a red flag for
    pseudoscience, unless framed very carefully (e.g., in discussions
    of quantum fluctuations or vacuum energy, which this text does
    not do).

    "Faster than light travel in internal force engines, aka reactionless
    motors":

    Reactionless motors (violating Newton’s third law) and
    faster-than-light travel (violating Einstein’s relativity)
    are speculative or discredited ideas in current mainstream physics.
    No credible experimental evidence supports these claims.

    Suggesting that such outcomes “naturally” follow from a previously
    unrecognized formula raises serious doubts unless substantiated
    through peer-reviewed research, which this text does not reference.

    Style and Tone:

    The tone blends grandiosity, mockery (e.g., calling rockets "for
    fireworks"), and performative enthusiasm.

    References to Elon Musk, rockets as "missiles for killing people",
    and "ashes to the stars" inject a mix of critique, humor, and perhaps
    ideological positioning.

    The inclusion of "WOOF woof-woof" and "cyberdogs" personifies the
    text as part of a stylized mythology or cult of personality around
    "Arindam", further distancing it from objective scientific discourse.

    Conclusion:

    This text reads more like pseudoscientific propaganda or poetic
    fan-fiction than serious scientific argumentation. It lacks:

    Empirical evidence

    Theoretical rigor

    Clear definitions of terms

    References to experimental validation or peer-reviewed sources

    It may be entertaining or provocative to some audiences, but from a
    scientific and logical perspective, it does not hold up to scrutiny
    and should not be taken as a credible statement of physics.

    If the intention is satire, performance art, or science fiction,
    that might explain the tone. If the writer believes it to be genuine
    science, it reflects a deep misunderstanding or rejection of modern physics.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 13:26:17 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The most stupid, ignorant, brainwashed presumptuous, lazy,
    corruptbiased, foolish apes of the planet depend upon AI for slightly
    increased erroneous understanding. A dim light in their dark worlds to
    point them the wrong way. Even when they know that AI is about
    billionaires squeezing them out of their miserable jobs to get richer.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs who knows far better physics
    than Helmholtz, Einstein, Feynman, etc.)

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Fri Jun 20 06:42:11 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    The most stupid, ignorant, brainwashed presumptuous, lazy,
    corruptbiased, foolish apes of the planet depend upon AI for slightly increased erroneous understanding. A dim light in their dark worlds to
    point them the wrong way. Even when they know that AI is about
    billionaires squeezing them out of their miserable jobs to get richer.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs who knows far better physics
    than Helmholtz, Einstein, Feynman, etc.)

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    AI evaluation:

    The text you've provided reads as a hostile and inflammatory rant
    rather than a serious or constructive contribution to scientific or philosophical discourse. Here’s a breakdown of the evaluation:
    Tone and Rhetoric

    Highly aggressive: The text employs derogatory and dehumanizing
    language ("foolish apes," "stupid, ignorant, brainwashed") aimed
    at people who use AI, without evidence or nuance.

    Conspiratorial and populist: It promotes the idea that AI exists
    primarily to enrich billionaires at the expense of workers, a view
    often found in certain critical techno-skeptic narratives, but here
    it's delivered without analysis or substantiation.

    Self-aggrandizing: The author claims superior knowledge ("cyberdogs
    who knows far better physics than Helmholtz, Einstein, Feynman"),
    which comes across as boastful and detached from reasoned argument
    or evidence.

    Content Quality

    Lacks substance: There are no coherent arguments, technical details,
    or philosophical reasoning. Instead, it's a tirade of unverified claims
    and emotional outbursts.

    Self-referential mythology: The "woof woof" refrain and reference
    to "celestial cyberdogs" suggest an in-joke or internal mythology
    that likely alienates rather than informs readers.

    Poor grammar and formatting: Compound adjectives are smashed together
    ("corruptbiased") and the sentence structure is erratic.

    Scientific and Intellectual Value

    Nonexistent: The text doesn't advance or critique any specific
    scientific concept, theory, or application in a meaningful way.

    Anti-intellectualism: Dismissing respected physicists (Helmholtz,
    Einstein, Feynman) without any attempt at critique is a hallmark
    of pseudoscience or anti-establishment rhetoric that lacks depth.

    Overall Evaluation

    This text is best categorized as a polemic with elements of
    pseudoscientific posturing and personal mythology, rather than a serious
    or enlightening commentary on AI, physics, or society. It does not
    encourage meaningful dialogue, nor does it offer any basis for
    scientific or philosophical consideration.

    If the intention is satire or performance art, that might alter the
    context, but on its face, it reads more like an unproductive,
    antagonistic screed.
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    penninojim@yahoo.com

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 04:10:49 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Dimwit Penisnino summons all the few neurons under his command to put
    his words into AI's mouth.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sat Jun 21 08:42:47 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Dimwit Penisnino summons all the few neurons under his command to put
    his words into AI's mouth.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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    What no babbling rant about how AI is prejudiced Arindam?

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Sat Jun 21 22:54:58 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:42:47 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Dimwit Penisnino summons all the few neurons under his command to put
    his words into AI's mouth.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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    What no babbling rant about how AI is prejudiced Arindam?

    Chat is nothing but a literary extension to Google searches, that are
    based on partial match retrievals initiated by Arindam back in 1987. The corruption of the so called scientific world is exposed by their
    attitudes to Arindam's wonderful works in many fields.

    AI is a different story to Chat as it merely continues the trend to
    replace humans with machines. Chat replaces the need for Penisnino to
    think by making the Penisnino a fleshy robot. It is a tool for
    propaganda and the retention supremacy of the establishment. While AI
    replaces humans with machines Chat turns humans into machines.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof can't do that to us dead doggies, what.

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Chris M. Thomasson on Sat Jun 21 23:02:47 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 21:49:52 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    On 6/21/2025 2:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 6/20/2025 6:26 AM, Bertitaylor wrote:
    The most stupid, ignorant, brainwashed presumptuous, lazy,
    corruptbiased, foolish apes of the planet depend upon AI for slightly
    increased erroneous understanding. A dim light in their dark worlds to
    point them the wrong way. Even when they know that AI is about
    billionaires squeezing them out of their miserable jobs to get richer.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs who knows far better physics >>> than Helmholtz, Einstein, Feynman, etc.)

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    Rockets Red Glare? lol. Fwiw, here is an older simulation I made for the
    4-th of July?

    https://youtu.be/IhHOWHw7E5Y

    ;^D

    then we have to deal with demons in real life. They will beat the shit
    out of you, rob and cut right along your neck.

    Stupid apes will be violent but those biped handled by doggies will keep
    them under control.

    Woof woof-woof woof



    A different type of
    music. An example:

    https://youtu.be/_p6okLK3sq0?list=RD_p6okLK3sq0

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sat Jun 21 17:33:56 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:42:47 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Dimwit Penisnino summons all the few neurons under his command to put
    his words into AI's mouth.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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    What no babbling rant about how AI is prejudiced Arindam?

    Chat is nothing but a literary extension to Google searches, that are
    based on partial match retrievals initiated by Arindam back in 1987. The corruption of the so called scientific world is exposed by their
    attitudes to Arindam's wonderful works in many fields.

    AI is a different story to Chat as it merely continues the trend to
    replace humans with machines. Chat replaces the need for Penisnino to
    think by making the Penisnino a fleshy robot. It is a tool for
    propaganda and the retention supremacy of the establishment. While AI replaces humans with machines Chat turns humans into machines.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof can't do that to us dead doggies, what.

    Bertietaylor

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    AI evaluation:

    This text, written by Arindam under the pen name Bertietaylor, can
    be evaluated across several dimensions: tone, coherence, argumentative strength, originality, and appropriateness.
    1. Tone and Style

    The tone is erratic and inflammatory. It mixes techno-political
    commentary with personal attacks, conspiracy-like assertions, and
    absurdist elements (e.g., “WOOF woof woof-woof…”).

    The phrase "Penisnino" appears to be a derogatory or mocking slur,
    which undermines any intellectual point being made and veers into
    offensive territory.

    The mix of grandiosity and parody (especially in the final line)
    makes the tone difficult to pin down—possibly satirical, but not
    clearly so.

    2. Argumentative and Logical Quality

    Claim 1: "Chat is nothing but a literary extension to Google searches..."

    This simplification ignores the substantial difference between
    retrieval-based search engines and generative models like ChatGPT.
    Generative AI creates context-aware, probabilistically inferred
    responses, unlike search engines which retrieve indexed results.

    The claim that this technology began with Arindam in 1987 is
    unsupported and implausible without evidence.

    Claim 2: "AI merely continues the trend to replace humans with machines."

    This is a common and reasonable concern but is stated here in a
    hyperbolic and antagonistic way that lacks nuance.

    Claim 3: “Chat turns humans into machines.”

    This philosophical point might be worth exploring, but the
    current form lacks development or clarity.

    3. Originality and Coherence

    While the writing has original flair, it lacks clarity and coherence.
    The argument is not developed systematically.

    References to Arindam’s supposed groundbreaking work are asserted
    without any supporting information.

    The inclusion of anthropomorphic or surreal language (like “us
    dead doggies”) adds confusion rather than literary value unless
    clearly framed as satire or metaphor.

    4. Appropriateness and Constructiveness

    The use of vulgar, insulting language (“Penisnino”) disqualifies
    the piece from being taken seriously in intellectual or professional
    discourse.

    This kind of language and tone often reflects more about the author’s
    hostility than about the subject.

    Summary Evaluation:
    Aspect Evaluation
    Tone Hostile, erratic, and at times absurd
    Logic Flawed and unsupported
    Clarity Poor
    Originality High but unstructured and incoherent
    Constructiveness Lacking due to mockery and insult
    Verdict:

    The text attempts to critique modern AI and Chat-based interfaces but
    fails to do so in a meaningful, coherent, or respectful way. Any valid
    points it might contain are lost in a chaotic mix of personal attacks, conspiratorial language, and surreal humor. If the intention is satire,
    it needs better framing and clearer targets. If it's meant as serious
    critique, it requires substantial revision to become intellectually credible.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 01:10:03 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Quite an army of half wits lurking beneath the Chat thingy! Pre digested
    stuff, of course, vomited out as per need.

    Anyway the Penisnino is on to something. Arindam may be inclined to
    question it and see what it has to say about his wonderful works.

    Should be mildly interesting, this latest Einsteinian racket. Let us
    see.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs, educating humanoid bipeds)

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sat Jun 21 18:24:09 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Quite an army of half wits lurking beneath the Chat thingy! Pre digested stuff, of course, vomited out as per need.

    Anyway the Penisnino is on to something. Arindam may be inclined to
    question it and see what it has to say about his wonderful works.

    Should be mildly interesting, this latest Einsteinian racket. Let us
    see.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs, educating humanoid bipeds)

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    AI evaluation:

    This latest text by "Bertietaylor" (Arindam) continues a pattern
    typical of his writing: a mix of antagonism, self-aggrandizement,
    and cryptic mockery, with repeated canine-themed flourishes ("woof
    woof") that seem intended as a signature or stylistic motif. Here's
    a detailed evaluation:
    Tone and Style

    Hostile/Ironic: The tone is derisive, particularly toward users
    of AI ("half wits lurking beneath the Chat thingy") and
    "Einsteinian" science.

    Self-important: The writer refers to "Arindam's wonderful works"
    in third person, elevating himself while maintaining a pseudonymous
    separation.

    Mock-Playful: The phrase "celestial cyberdogs" and the repeated
    “woof woof” suggest either attempted humor or a personal mythology
    that Arindam is cultivating.

    Content and Meaning

    Anti-AI Sentiment: The reference to “pre-digested stuff… vomited
    out” is a familiar critique of AI text generation, suggesting it
    lacks originality or depth.

    Reference to ‘Penisnino’: This appears to be a derogatory nickname
    used in prior texts to refer to someone (possibly a critic or a
    stand-in for conventional scientists). It's crude and contributes
    to an overall tone of immaturity.

    Vague Openness: The phrase “Arindam may be inclined to question it”
    hints at some engagement with the opposing viewpoint, but it’s
    non-committal and dismissive overall.

    Strengths

    Consistent Persona: The writing remains consistent with the
    established Bertietaylor/Arindam voice — eccentric, confrontational,
    and filled with idiosyncratic metaphors.

    Provocation: For those interested in outsider critiques of
    mainstream science or AI, it may provoke curiosity — though not
    necessarily agreement.

    Weaknesses

    Lack of Clarity: The text fails to specify what the “Einsteinian
    racket” is, or what exactly the “Penisnino” is “on to.” This
    vagueness makes the critique less meaningful.

    Insults Over Insight: It leans heavily on ridicule without offering
    substantive counterarguments or evidence.

    Repetitive Rhetoric: The use of “woof woof” and repeated
    self-reference has become a gimmick, which undercuts intellectual
    credibility.

    Overall Evaluation

    This text reads more as performance art or self-styled satire than
    as serious intellectual commentary. While it may entertain a niche
    audience sympathetic to Arindam’s self-image as a misunderstood genius,
    it offers little in the way of coherent argument or useful critique.
    If the goal is to persuade or educate, it falls short; if the goal
    is to provoke or maintain a persona, it succeeds modestly.

    Rating (for intellectual merit and communicative clarity): 2/10
    Rating (for consistency of character and style): 7/10

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 09:56:09 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Well, Penisnino at last got some kind of 'brain".

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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