• Re: Lots of Christian Atheists here, ain't they?

    From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to kazu on Fri Nov 1 08:06:54 2024
    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.


    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
    us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
    known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
    ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
    such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

    predict something that differs from the standard model, confirm it with experimentation.


    --
    Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
    in England until 1987.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 1 08:53:07 2024
    W dniu 01.11.2024 o 08:06, Athel Cornish-Bowden pisze:
    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.


    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
    us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
    known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group such a
    magnet for nutters?

    Simple: that's because the teachings of
    your bunch of idiots violate common sense,
    basic math and some basic definitions
    applied by sane people and very important
    for them.

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  • From kazu@21:1/5 to Athel Cornish-Bowden on Fri Nov 1 10:51:55 2024
    Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum
    fallacy.


    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius
    rebel among us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is
    not hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not
    only LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee
    (otherwise known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician
    humanity has ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots.
    Why is this group such a magnet for nutters? Not even
    talk.origins has so many.



    might be that.... personality disorder? what is it called?
    grandiosity and stuff.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Athel Cornish-Bowden on Mon Nov 4 10:21:14 2024
    Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.


    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
    us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
    known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
    ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
    such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

    Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
    about a lack of nutters.

    This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
    who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
    had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
    (Intelligent Design)

    With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery collapsed.
    (as you well know)
    The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
    They don't have an alternative to teach.
    So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

    Jan

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 4 14:31:01 2024
    W dniu 04.11.2024 o 10:21, J. J. Lodder pisze:
    Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy.


    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among
    us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
    LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise
    known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
    ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
    such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

    Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
    about a lack of nutters.

    This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
    who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
    had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
    (Intelligent Design)

    With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery collapsed.
    (as you well know)
    The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
    They don't have an alternative to teach.
    So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

    It would be sure much better and easier
    for relativistic doggies to fight me if I
    had some idiocies comparable to theirs.

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  • From kazu@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Nov 4 16:17:32 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 04.11.2024 o 10:21, J. J. Lodder pisze:
    Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum
    fallacy.


    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius
    rebel among
    us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not
    hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not
    only
    LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee
    (otherwise
    known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician
    humanity has
    ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this
    group
    such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

    Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
    about a lack of nutters.

    This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
    who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
    had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
    (Intelligent Design)

    With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery
    collapsed.
    (as you well know)
    The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
    They don't have an alternative to teach.
    So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

    It would be sure much better and easier
    for relativistic doggies to fight me if I
    had some  idiocies comparable to theirs.



    what is it about relativity that you disagree? speed of light
    constant in all reference frames?

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 4 19:40:48 2024
    W dniu 04.11.2024 o 17:17, kazu pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 04.11.2024 o 10:21, J. J. Lodder pisze:
    Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-31 18:54:56 +0000, kazu said:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
    Dawn Flood: "solitary cranks" is only a case of ad populum fallacy. >>>>>

    as much as i would like to believe there is a super genius rebel among >>>>> us who is decades ahead of his peers, good will is not hunting here.

    There are several self-proclaimed super geniuses among us: not only
    LaurenceClarkCrossen, but also "Dr" Hachel, Arindam Banerjee (otherwise >>>> known as bertietaylor), Wozniak (the greatest logician humanity has
    ever known), rhertz, the Starmaker. All crackpots. Why is this group
    such a magnet for nutters? Not even talk.origins has so many.

    Indeed, the regulars in t.o. are even complaining
    about a lack of nutters.

    This is understandable. Unlike the nutters here,
    who are merely against it all, the t.o. nutters
    had a more or less coherent alternative theory.
    (Intelligent Design)

    With the collapse of intelligent design much of the nuttery collapsed.
    (as you well know)
    The nutterdom here has no such claim at respectability.
    They don't have an alternative to teach.
    So, beig pure nuttery, it is less prone to collapse.

    It would be sure much better and easier
    for relativistic doggies to fight me if I
    had some  idiocies comparable to theirs.



    what is it about relativity that you disagree? speed of light constant
    in all reference frames?

    That wouldn't be disagreeing; even your insane guru
    was unable to stick to such an absurd for a long time
    and his GR has withdrawn from it.

    And what I disagree? First - pretending that
    desynchronized clocks are somehow better than
    synchronized ones, because of some moronic symmetry;
    second - rejecting basic [Euclidean] math.
    Third - last but not least - your mad, fanatic
    arrogance.







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