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  • Re: XhatGPT; How many physicists accept GR?

    From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to rhertz on Sat Nov 16 12:54:33 2024
    On 16-Nov-24 9:52 am, rhertz wrote:
    ChatGPT entered in crisis here, after I asked HOW MANY (worldwide).



    You realise that it's just a language model based on trawling the Internet?

    It's not intelligent. I doesn't know anything. It cannot reason. It just composes sentences based on word probabilities derived from the trawling.

    And guess what? The Internet contains a lot of garbage; garbage that's
    been fed into the language model.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 16 08:02:23 2024
    W dniu 16.11.2024 o 05:54, Sylvia Else pisze:
    On 16-Nov-24 9:52 am, rhertz wrote:
    ChatGPT entered in crisis here, after I asked HOW MANY (worldwide).



    You realise that it's just a language model based on trawling the Internet?

    It's not intelligent. I doesn't know anything. It cannot reason. It just composes sentences based on word probabilities derived from the trawling.

    And what do You think "reasoning" is? Some
    mystical magic?
    That's what Turing test was about: when a
    machine operates common langyage with some
    skill comparable to a human - it "thinks".

    Not, of course, that ChatGPT has comparable to
    a human skill.


    And guess what? The Internet contains a lot of garbage

    Including the relativity of Your insane guru...

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 16 09:01:43 2024
    Am Samstag000016, 16.11.2024 um 02:52 schrieb rhertz:
    ...

    Is it clear now? ChatGPT endorses relativity, even when fail to present
    facts that led to acceptance on each field. In particular, cosmology and quantum physics.

    It refuses to explain the role of relativity in fields like solid state physics, biophysics, industrial physics, medical physics, etc.


    My own appraoch was this:

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    The main concept is based on very few assumption like e.g.:

    a system is something identitifiable and what you regard as such.
    But there are no natural closed systems.

    A system has imaginary borders, which are infinitely thin.


    another assumption:
    matter is 'relative', hence particles are not real lasting entities, but
    are 'observer dependent'.


    Gravitation was not covered by my own appraoch, because it could be left
    within GR.

    Also QM was not a part from this method, which was meant to conncet GR
    and QM, but didn't aim to replace them.

    ...


    TH

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 16 10:02:55 2024
    Le 16/11/2024 à 05:54, Sylvia Else a écrit :
    On 16-Nov-24 9:52 am, rhertz wrote:
    ChatGPT entered in crisis here, after I asked HOW MANY (worldwide).



    You realise that it's just a language model based on trawling the Internet?

    It's not intelligent. I doesn't know anything. It cannot reason. It just composes sentences based on word probabilities derived from the trawling.

    And guess what? The Internet contains a lot of garbage; garbage that's
    been fed into the language model.

    TchatGPT says absolutely anything when asked pointed questions. He is
    incapable of understanding the simple notion of anisochrony (two watches
    placed in the same frame of reference build different systems of
    simultaneity), and constantly answers only on the same wavelength: the
    dilation of chronotropy by change of inertial frame of reference.
    He mixes everything up.
    It is impossible to have a coherent discussion.
    He resembles point by point most scientific interlocutors on usenet
    forums: he tirelessly repeats what he has learned by heart and is
    incapable of demonstrating creative intelligence.
    He is just a simple search engine.

    R.H.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog on Sat Nov 16 14:54:55 2024
    ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog <tomyee3@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 4:54:33 +0000, Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 16-Nov-24 9:52 am, rhertz wrote:
    ChatGPT entered in crisis here, after I asked HOW MANY (worldwide).



    You realise that it's just a language model based on trawling the
    Internet?

    It's not intelligent. I doesn't know anything. It cannot reason. It just composes sentences based on word probabilities derived from the
    trawling.

    And guess what? The Internet contains a lot of garbage; garbage that's
    been fed into the language model.

    ..and an increasingly large proportion of the garbage being fed into
    the large language models is garbage GENERATED by large language
    models.

    The "Mad Cow Disease" crisis of the 1980s is believed to have been due
    to the practice of feeding cattle meal that contained cattle and sheep by-products. As LLM output becomes increasingly difficult to distinguish
    from human output (which is often bad enough!), I predict an outbreak of
    "Mad LLM Disease".

    Those models are trained with texts from 2022 and earlier,
    with good reason,

    Jan

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