1. Forum
  2. Usenet
  3. SCI.PHYSICS.RELATIVITY

  • Re: No Observable Twin Paradox in GPS

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@21:1/5 to rhertz on Wed Apr 30 06:34:19 2025
    On 4/30/2025 4:02 AM, rhertz wrote:
    Despite SR being touted as critical for GPS

    despite that, GPS clocks keep measuring t'=t,
    just like all serious clocks always did. Common
    sense has been warning the idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to rhertz on Wed Apr 30 19:47:20 2025
    On 30-Apr-25 10:02 am, rhertz wrote:
    Despite SR being touted as critical for GPS, there's no observable time dilation between two satellites moving at the same speed in opposite directions, as the twin paradox would suggest.

    The issue is not between the rates for different satellites, but for the
    rates between each satellite and an observer on the ground.

    Sylvia.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to rhertz on Wed Apr 30 15:13:06 2025
    rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

    Despite SR being touted as critical for GPS, there's no observable time dilation between two satellites moving at the same speed in opposite directions, as the twin paradox would suggest.

    Why? Because the system averages orbital parameters, assuming symmetry.

    Just curious: where do you get those fantasies
    about how the GPS system operates?

    Jan

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Wed Apr 30 16:29:43 2025
    On 4/30/2025 1:47 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 30-Apr-25 10:02 am, rhertz wrote:
    Despite SR being touted as critical for GPS, there's no observable time
    dilation between two satellites moving at the same speed in opposite
    directions, as the twin paradox would suggest.

    The issue is not between the rates for different satellites, but for the rates between each satellite and an observer on the ground.

    The issue is not about the rates at all.
    Time - according to Your absurd religion -
    is clock INDICATIONS; one thing about time
    it is correct about.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Wed Apr 30 09:30:16 2025
    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 30-Apr-25 10:02 am, rhertz wrote:
    Despite SR being touted as critical for GPS, there's no observable time dilation between two satellites moving at the same speed in opposite directions, as the twin paradox would suggest.

    The issue is not between the rates for different satellites, but for the rates between each satellite and an observer on the ground.

    Sylvia.


    Translation: a triplet paradox.

    Your relativity reqires always, and in all cases...three observers.


    Einstein is the third observer...you are reading 'into' his theory.


    GPS has nothing to do with Relativity. (ask the manufacture of GPS)


    So, yous all reading gps relativity 'into' gps.


    I'm not drinking yours kool-aid....too much LDS.


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)