"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's
theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's
and it's copyright 1997.

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On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 20:33:19 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's
theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's
and it's copyright 1997.

His theory is an aether relativity theory.

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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's
and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

Jan

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On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's
theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's
and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

T so much IA,

Julio

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Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's
theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

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On 15/06/2025 12:36, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >>>> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

And who gives a damn?? Aka, spammers and co-spammers, the two
sides of the same mangled fraudulent coin. Meanwhile, the truth
is that *not even Einstein understood relativity* (I'll give the
man the benefit of the doubt, but not the epoch nor the system):
so I guess I shouldn't be expecting much from you either.

-Julio

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On 15/06/2025 14:36, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 12:36, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >>>>>> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

And who gives a damn??

It would seen that you are a nobody who is not aware
of the status of Tom Van Flndern as a serious research scientist. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Van_Flandern>
Some of his unorthodox views turned out to be wrong,
in others he was right.

Meanwhile, the truth
is that *not even Einstein understood relativity* (I'll give the
man the benefit of the doubt, but not the epoch nor the system):
so I guess I shouldn't be expecting much from you either.

See? You are just being silly.
Have your fun, knowing better than Einstein,

Knowing better than *you*. First, learn to read...

*Plonk*

-Julio

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Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 12:36, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >>>> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

And who gives a damn??

It would seen that you are a nobody who is not aware
of the status of Tom Van Flndern as a serious research scientist. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Van_Flandern>
Some of his unorthodox views turned out to be wrong,
in others he was right.

Meanwhile, the truth
is that *not even Einstein understood relativity* (I'll give the
man the benefit of the doubt, but not the epoch nor the system):
so I guess I shouldn't be expecting much from you either.

See? You are just being silly.
Have your fun, knowing better than Einstein,

Jan

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 7:25:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's
theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's
and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

Jan

No, but I am convinced since I have read some of his articles.

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >>>> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from
Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of
the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for
sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft.
Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year
was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 7:25:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's
theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

Jan

No, but I am convinced since I have read some of his articles.

Yes, but you are notoriously incapable of reading articles,
and of getting the content right,

Jan

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On 6/15/2025 8:37 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like,
like evolution or relativity?

While physicists have no monopoly for stupidity,
generally what you wrote is a lie. Of course.
Anyway, The Shit of your idiot guru was not even
consistent, your rants and spitting is not going
to change that.

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the
About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >>>> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

I Google searched the other day and the AI said it was by Van Flandern.
Today it says: "AI Overview
It appears you're interested in the book "The Einstein Hoax: The
Disastrous Intellectual War on Common Sense" by H.E. Retic, which is
sometimes associated with Tom Van Flandern"

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van Flandern's >>>>>> and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from
Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of
the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for
sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of
operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without
picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft.
Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year
was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like,
like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van

Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from
Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of
the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for
sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft.
Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year
was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 19:03:45 +0000, Maciej Woźniak wrote:

On 6/15/2025 8:37 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like,
like evolution or relativity?

While physicists have no monopoly for stupidity,
generally what you wrote is a lie. Of course.
Anyway, The Shit of your idiot guru was not even
consistent, your rants and spitting is not going
to change that.

I do find that it is clear that Van Flandern wrote it as I do have a
serious interest in his work due to his work on the speed of gravity. He
has a long appendix written in 1987 on gravity. It's pointless to reply
to the careless remarks of relativists.

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>>>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van

Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from
Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for
sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft.
Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like,
like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

Anyone desiring to judge for themselves can get a free pdf: https://epdf.pub/the-einstein-hoax-the-disastrous-intellectual-war-on-common-sense.html
It has 16 chapters without the appendixes.

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert Einstein's >>>>>>>>> theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van

Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims
based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from
Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for
sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft.
Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like,
like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

"Chapter 9 - Dr. Einstein's Error and the Introduction of Curved Space
9.1- Where did Dr. Einstein go wrong? - Since the General Theory of
Relativity yields results which are in conflict with the postulates upon
which it is based, it is apparent that at least one significant
mathematical error was made in its derivation. In order for the
existence and nature of that error not
to have been recognized by Dr. Einstein and his contemporaries, it must
be of a type which would not be obvious to individuals of sufficient
stature and scientific sophistication to be in a position to question
his work. It is likely that the error was recognized from time to time
by bright
undergraduates, but their objections would not be accepted by an
academic priesthood dedicated to preserving the true faith. Questions
from such sources would be brushed aside because obviously they could
only have resulted from a lack of understanding on the part of
questioners
who were not sufficiently trained (brainwashed?) to understand the
subject matter and who did not as yet possess the proper 'yup's.

9.2- In deriving the General Theory of Relativity, Dr. Einstein employed
a mathematical tool called Tensor Calculus. Properly applied, this tool
is extremely useful and normally insures that the effects of all
possible variables are considered. It does have a limitation however, it
cannot be used for deriving a relativistic theory."

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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please
stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from
Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for >>>> sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. >>>> Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

"Chapter 9 - Dr. Einstein's Error and the Introduction of Curved Space
9.1- Where did Dr. Einstein go wrong? -

[snip crackpot material]

You avoid the question. Relativity nutters are a dime a dozen.
Quoting anti-Einstein material doesn't prove
that the author must be Tom Van Flandern.
(who wasn't just another crackpot btw)

Jan

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On 6/28/2025 10:31 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please >>>>>>>> stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from >>>>>> Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for >>>>>> sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. >>>>>> Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>>>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

"Chapter 9 - Dr. Einstein's Error and the Introduction of Curved Space
9.1- Where did Dr. Einstein go wrong? -

[snip crackpot material]

You avoid the question. Relativity nutters are a dime a dozen.

Sure. They worship that mumbling inconsistently
idiot, ignore any reasoning, dodge any
question, insult and slander not believing
The Shit heathens.

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 8:31:59 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please >>>>>>>> stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from >>>>>> Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for >>>>>> sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. >>>>>> Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>>>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

Anyone desiring to judge for themselves can get a free pdf:
https://epdf.pub/the-einstein-hoax-the-disastrous-intellectual-war-on-common-s

ense.html

It has 16 chapters without the appendixes.

Cowardly evasions.
YOU claimed something, it is up to YOU
to make it at least a bit plausible,

Jan

"9.4- It is because the solution of a problem in Tensor Calculus
requires the performance of mathematical integration that Tensor
Calculus is unsuitable for the derivation of a relativistic theory. The
partial derivatives in the Tensor Calculus matrix used to derive the
General Theory of Relativity involve length. It has been demonstrated
that the units of measurement of length change
between reference frames which differ in velocity. Since the derivation
of General Relativity is based upon the Principle of Equivalence, it
follows that the effect of a change in elevation on the units of
measurement for length must be known in order for a meaningful,
mathematically valid, integration to be performed. (The size of the
units of measurement are analogous to the "size" of K in the previous paragraph.) Unfortunately, the effect of a change in elevation on the
units of measurement for length cannot be known until the integration
has been performed correctly and a valid integration cannot be performed
until the effects of a change in elevation on the units of measurement
for length are known. Consequently a valid derivation of gravitational
theory is not
possible by this method. When the attempt is made, it arbitrarily forces
the Gravity Transformation for Length to equal unity regardless of its
correct value. Until the Tensor Calculus equations have been solved, the required information needed to solve them is not available. It is
difficult to
understand, however, why Dr. Einstein did not recognize that, in
employing Tensor Calculus to derive General Relativity, he was
incorporating an erroneous loop of circular reasoning. If an
undergraduate student of elementary calculus persistently made an
equivalent error he would receive a failing grade for the course.
9.5- Dr. Einstein's mathematical error made it impossible to achieve a
solution of the General Relativity Tensor in a manner which is
consistent with Euclidian geometry. He is reported to have struggled
with this difficulty for about 18 months and finally resolved his
impasse' by adding another, otherwise superfluous, degree of freedom. He
did this by incorporating the curved space
described by Riemann Geometry. This addition permitted the mathematical equations to be solved, but the results were clearly not rigorously
correct since, as Table 8.9.1 shows, the resultant General Theory of
Relativity clearly violates the Principles of Relativity and Equivalence
upon which it is
based."

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 8:31:59 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please >>>>>>>> stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from >>>>>> Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for >>>>>> sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. >>>>>> Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>>>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

"Chapter 9 - Dr. Einstein's Error and the Introduction of Curved Space
9.1- Where did Dr. Einstein go wrong? -

[snip crackpot material]

You avoid the question. Relativity nutters are a dime a dozen.
Quoting anti-Einstein material doesn't prove
that the author must be Tom Van Flandern.
(who wasn't just another crackpot btw)

Jan

It is obvious that he wouldn't have an 'about the author' section that
would disclose his real identity.

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 8:31:59 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please >>>>>>>> stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from >>>>>> Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for >>>>>> sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. >>>>>> Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>>>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

"Chapter 9 - Dr. Einstein's Error and the Introduction of Curved Space
9.1- Where did Dr. Einstein go wrong? -

[snip crackpot material]

You avoid the question. Relativity nutters are a dime a dozen.
Quoting anti-Einstein material doesn't prove
that the author must be Tom Van Flandern.
(who wasn't just another crackpot btw)

Jan

Relativistic nutters never answer the criticisms.
"One must remember the comment made in a meeting in which General
Relativity was evaluated,
"why shouldn't we consider space to be curved, nobody can prove that it
isn't". The author finds it difficult to differentiate Dr. Einstein's
use of curved space to allow him to complete his derivation of General Relativity from the actions of a mechanic who installs the wrong part
into a machine by hammering it into place." - The Einstein Hoax" book
pdf.

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 8:31:59 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>>>>>> Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained in the >>>>>>>>>>> About the Author section, where he describes Van Flandern's career. >>>>>>>>>> Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please >>>>>>>> stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common >>>>>>> Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from >>>>>> Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform of >>>>>> the inertial guidance system used in the X-15 aircraft...designed for >>>>>> sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level Television System capable of >>>>>> operating from full daylight to the photon noise limit threshold without >>>>>> picture degradation...a goal that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. >>>>>> Belvoir had declared impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year >>>>>> was granted 10% of the patents issued to a major military
contractor...began to study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>>>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

Anyone desiring to judge for themselves can get a free pdf:
https://epdf.pub/the-einstein-hoax-the-disastrous-intellectual-war-on-common-s

ense.html

It has 16 chapters without the appendixes.

Cowardly evasions.
YOU claimed something, it is up to YOU
to make it at least a bit plausible,

Jan

If it's not possible to prove space is not curved, then relativity is an unfalsifiable theory.
For space to be curved, parallel lines in a plane surface would have to
meet without that surface becoming three-dimensional. Therefore, curved
space is impossible nonsense. Curved space is a case of the reification fallacy.

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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 8:31:59 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 20:32:43 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 18:37:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:36:39 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 15/06/2025 09:25, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:00:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>

"AI: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on Common
Sense" is a book by Tom Van Flandern that critiques Albert >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein's theories, particularly relativity."

It is published under the pen name H. E. Retic, as explained >>>>>>>>>>> in the About the Author section, where he describes Van >>>>>>>>>>> Flandern's career.

Reading it I find that it certainly seems like it must be Van >>>>>>>>>> Flandern's and it's copyright 1997.

Do you have verifiable evidence
for H. E. Retic being Tom van Flandern?

I wouldn't want to lose you (am I wrong?), but could you please >>>>>>>> stop feeding the spammers?

The book: "The Einstein Hoax: The Disastrous Intellectual War on >>>>>>> Common Sense" by H. E. Retic obviously exists.
(you can order it on Amazon for example,
but I won't spend real money on it)

So I would like to see the About the Author section,
to see if the claim that he is Van Flandern is justified.

One never knows, even LaurenceClarkCrossen may provide
some useful information, once in a while,

Jan

BTW, Van Flandern admitted later on that his anti-relativity claims >>>>>>> based on Voyager data didn't hold water.
There has been a lot of discussion on it in the other SPR,
when that group still had worthwhile content.

"About the Author...retired Mechanical Engineer who graduated from >>>>>> Cornell University in 1948...designed and built the stable platform >>>>>> of the inertial guidance system used in the X-15
aircraft...designed for sale to the Navy the first Low-Light level >>>>>> Television System capable of operating from full daylight to the >>>>>> photon noise limit threshold without picture degradation...a goal >>>>>> that the Night Vision Laboratory at Ft. Belvoir had declared
impossible...holds over 25 patents and in one year was granted 10% >>>>>> of the patents issued to a major military contractor...began to
study gravitation in the mid 1960's..."

Thanks. And OK, that settles it.
This 'H. E. Retic' is definitely not Tom Van Flandern.
Just another dime a dozen dumb engineer.

Why is it that some of those engineers think
that they know everything about everything,
which qualifies them to disprove any scientific theory they don't like, >>>>> like evolution or relativity?

Jan

As usual you give no good reason for your opinion.

I did. Comparison of the Author description
with the wikiparticle on Tom Van Flandern
makes it obvious that the two don't fit together,

Jan

"Chapter 9 - Dr. Einstein's Error and the Introduction of Curved Space
9.1- Where did Dr. Einstein go wrong? -

[snip crackpot material]

You avoid the question. Relativity nutters are a dime a dozen.
Quoting anti-Einstein material doesn't prove
that the author must be Tom Van Flandern.
(who wasn't just another crackpot btw)

Jan

It is obvious that he wouldn't have an 'about the author' section that
would disclose his real identity.

So you still have nothing to bolster your position,

Jan

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