• Re: Love and Expectations

    From V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V@21:1/5 to Ilya Shambat on Sat Jan 28 03:01:04 2023
    Eminem is a idiot ................

    He should shoot a bullet into his head..........................................




    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:23:50 AM UTC+2, Ilya Shambat wrote:
    I have heard it stated that people who fall in love subject their partner to unrealistic expectations, which is bad for their partner.

    My response is that a good person of either gender would hold themselves to a high standard of conduct, and that in likewise expecting excellence of their partner the lover would not be doing any violence to her values or her propensities.

    What happens when the woman “falls off the pedestal” and fails to live up to the man’s expectations? That is when we get to find out what kind of a guy you are. If you start treating the woman like dirt, then you are a jerk and your love is
    bullshit. But if you continue treating the woman well, then your love is worth a hill of beans.

    I knew of a man who, when his wife had a stroke, started brutally beating her. I knew a woman whose husband likewise started brutally beating her when she refused to abort their child. In both cases, the men really were jerks, and their love really was
    bullshit. I have taken a different route. I was never violent or abusive to Melanie, even though she was quite contentious and frequently insulting.

    Are men’s expectations burdensome for the women? Yes; but so are the feminists’ expectations. So we are seeing women raised in matriarchal settings endorsing such people as Eminem. They have preferred violence by mean but sexy young men over
    emotional bullying by mean, unattractive older women. It should raise alarms for many people in feminism if women raised in matriarchal settings find people such as Eminem attractive.

    Do the people who fall in love have unrealistic expectations for women? There are many women who are perfectly happy to meet these expectations. Once again, a good person of either gender would hold themselves to a high standard of conduct. Rewarding
    women for that is rewarding them for a work well done. And that is good for these women as well as good for the world.

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  • From Ilya Shambat@21:1/5 to V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V on Sat Jan 28 17:34:11 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:01:06 PM UTC+10, V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V wrote:
    Eminem is a idiot ................

    He should shoot a bullet into his head..........................................

    Yeah, I don't like him either. He had a mother who was a complete bitch; but then he made the mistake of generalizing his hatred on all women. So now there are men who treat their women like shit because Eminem inspired them to do so, and that is bad for
    the women.

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