• "Defund" ? Just Look at Haiti

    From 28A.K864@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 23:02:12 2023
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    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Mar 10 23:55:57 2023
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    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 23:53:06 2023
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    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sat Mar 11 00:02:00 2023
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    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934
    (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Scout on Sat Mar 11 00:13:32 2023
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    Scout wrote on 3/11/2023 12:02 AM:


    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934
    (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to install our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti



    OMG!!!

    When will Americans ever stop invading people!!!




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  • From devils work@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 11 06:55:40 2023
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    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> posted
    some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1,
    1934
    (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our puppet. LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillarys Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email- 213110/>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sat Mar 11 00:21:28 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    max headroom wrote on 3/11/2023 12:16 AM:
    Siri Cruise wrote on 3/11/2023 12:13 AM:
    Scout wrote on 3/11/2023 12:02 AM:


    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 >>>>> (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to install our
    puppet. LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti



    OMG!!!

    When will Americans ever stop invading people!!!




    Not any time soon. We are an invasive species, for crying out loud!!!



    We love to invade like Count Dracula loves to count. LOL!!!


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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sat Mar 11 00:16:38 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    Siri Cruise wrote on 3/11/2023 12:13 AM:
    Scout wrote on 3/11/2023 12:02 AM:


    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 >>>> (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to install our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti



    OMG!!!

    When will Americans ever stop invading people!!!




    Not any time soon. We are an invasive species, for crying out loud!!!

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  • From 28A.K864@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sat Mar 11 00:24:58 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 3/11/23 12:13 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    Scout wrote on 3/11/2023 12:02 AM:


    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 >>>> (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti



    Not ENOUGH obviously ...



    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to install our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti



    OMG!!!

    When will Americans ever stop invading people!!!


    Ask yer heroes Putin and Xi ...

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 11 05:27:05 2023
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    He sure likes talking to himself, doesn't he?

    Swill
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    Slva Ukrajni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From 28A.K864@21:1/5 to devils work on Sat Mar 11 13:56:22 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 3/11/23 12:55 AM, devils work wrote:
    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> posted
    some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1,
    1934
    (19Ā years and 4Ā days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons’ Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillary’s Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email- 213110/>


    Haiti has NEVER been what you'd call a "solid country".
    Endless dictators and coups, social decohesion and
    grinding poverty. Can't get its shit together and at
    this point I doubt it ever will - they've burned up every
    resource and cannot organize future money-making enterprises
    even WITH foreign investments.

    Haitians seem to be pretty sharp people - good IQ and
    plenty of energy. Alas that does NOT necessarily translate
    into a successful COUNTRY. There's too big a disconnect
    between PERSONAL gain and EVERYONE'S gain, 'Me' =vs= 'We'.
    Haven't been able to get from 'A' to 'B' in centuries.

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to 28A.K864@noqbgba.net on Sat Mar 11 16:44:25 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 13:56:22 -0500, "28A.K864" <28A.K864@noqbgba.net> wrote:

    On 3/11/23 12:55 AM, devils work wrote:
    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> posted
    some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 ? August 1,
    1934
    (19?years and 4?days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillarys Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email-
    213110/>


    Haiti has NEVER been what you'd call a "solid country".
    Endless dictators and coups, social decohesion and
    grinding poverty. Can't get its shit together and at
    this point I doubt it ever will - they've burned up every
    resource and cannot organize future money-making enterprises
    even WITH foreign investments.

    All true.

    Haitians seem to be pretty sharp people - good IQ and
    plenty of energy. Alas that does NOT necessarily translate
    into a successful COUNTRY. There's too big a disconnect
    between PERSONAL gain and EVERYONE'S gain, 'Me' =vs= 'We'.
    Haven't been able to get from 'A' to 'B' in centuries.

    Haitian civilization stems from French rule of one of the most concentrated African slave
    populations in the New World.

    Swill
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    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Slva Ukrajni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to 28A.K864@noqbgba.net on Sat Mar 11 23:02:16 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 2023-03-11, 28A.K864 <28A.K864@noqbgba.net> wrote:
    On 3/11/23 12:55 AM, devils work wrote:
    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> posted
    some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, >> 1934
    (19Ā years and 4Ā days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons’ Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillary’s Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email-
    213110/>


    Haiti has NEVER been what you'd call a "solid country".
    Endless dictators and coups, social decohesion and
    grinding poverty. Can't get its shit together and at
    this point I doubt it ever will - they've burned up every
    resource and cannot organize future money-making enterprises
    even WITH foreign investments.

    Haitians seem to be pretty sharp people - good IQ and
    plenty of energy. Alas that does NOT necessarily translate
    into a successful COUNTRY. There's too big a disconnect
    between PERSONAL gain and EVERYONE'S gain, 'Me' =vs= 'We'.
    Haven't been able to get from 'A' to 'B' in centuries.

    Before I retired, the security staff in building I worked in was mostly Haitians and I'd see them
    sitting at their station, studying engineering or other technical subjects for college. I have
    always been impressed as they are very hard workers and very smart.


    --
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    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From 28A.K864@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Mar 11 20:41:07 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 3/11/23 6:02 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2023-03-11, 28A.K864 <28A.K864@noqbgba.net> wrote:
    On 3/11/23 12:55 AM, devils work wrote:
    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> posted >>> some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, >>> 1934
    (19Ā years and 4Ā days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our puppet. >>>> LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons’ Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillary’s Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email-
    213110/>


    Haiti has NEVER been what you'd call a "solid country".
    Endless dictators and coups, social decohesion and
    grinding poverty. Can't get its shit together and at
    this point I doubt it ever will - they've burned up every
    resource and cannot organize future money-making enterprises
    even WITH foreign investments.

    Haitians seem to be pretty sharp people - good IQ and
    plenty of energy. Alas that does NOT necessarily translate
    into a successful COUNTRY. There's too big a disconnect
    between PERSONAL gain and EVERYONE'S gain, 'Me' =vs= 'We'.
    Haven't been able to get from 'A' to 'B' in centuries.

    Before I retired, the security staff in building I worked in was mostly Haitians and I'd see them
    sitting at their station, studying engineering or other technical subjects for college. I have
    always been impressed as they are very hard workers and very smart.


    This has been my experience as well - whatever makes for
    smart, they have it. They also have a lot of energy, maybe
    slackers get eliminated from the gene pool there real quick ?
    No spare anything to support lazy-asses. Hire a Haitian and
    he'll be the foreman next year and in management the next.

    BUT, as I said, "smart" alone does not make for a good
    country. There has to be some underlying paradigm, a
    philosophy, a general-welfare plan, that kinda permeates
    the brain and behavior. Haiti seems to have missed out
    on this even though there are much better focused nations
    all around it as examples.

    In their defense though, it took the Euros thousands of years
    to kinda get past the de-facto "gangsta rule" thing (kinda)
    and understand that national wealth/status/prosperity requires
    the WHOLE nation to at least have fair opportunity and justice
    AND be well-organized so a System can develop. THEN you can
    make money out the ass and sit on the Security Council and such.

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  • From John Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 11 20:54:31 2023
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    28A.K864 wrote on 3/11/2023 8:41 PM:
    On 3/11/23 6:02 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2023-03-11, 28A.K864 <28A.K864@noqbgba.net> wrote:
    On 3/11/23 12:55 AM, devils work wrote:
    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted
    some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, >>>> 1934
    (19Ā years and 4Ā days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our
    puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons’ Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillary’s Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email- >>>>
    213110/>


        Haiti has NEVER been what you'd call a "solid country".
        Endless dictators and coups, social decohesion and
        grinding poverty. Can't get its shit together and at
        this point I doubt it ever will - they've burned up every
        resource and cannot organize future money-making enterprises
        even WITH foreign investments.

        Haitians seem to be pretty sharp people - good IQ and
        plenty of energy. Alas that does NOT necessarily translate
        into a successful COUNTRY. There's too big a disconnect
        between PERSONAL gain and EVERYONE'S gain, 'Me' =vs= 'We'.
        Haven't been able to get from 'A' to 'B' in centuries.

    Before I retired, the security staff in building I worked in was
    mostly Haitians and I'd see them
    sitting at their station, studying engineering or other technical
    subjects for college. I have
    always been impressed as they are very hard workers and very smart.


      This has been my experience as well - whatever makes for
      smart, they have it. They also have a lot of energy, maybe
      slackers get eliminated from the gene pool there real quick ?
      No spare anything to support lazy-asses. Hire a Haitian and
      he'll be the foreman next year and in management the next.

      BUT, as I said, "smart" alone does not make for a good
      country. There has to be some underlying paradigm, a
      philosophy, a general-welfare plan, that kinda permeates
      the brain and behavior. Haiti seems to have missed out
      on this even though there are much better focused nations
      all around it as examples.

      In their defense though, it took the Euros thousands of years
      to kinda get past the de-facto "gangsta rule" thing (kinda)
      and understand that national wealth/status/prosperity requires
      the WHOLE nation to at least have fair opportunity and justice
      AND be well-organized so a System can develop. THEN you can
      make money out the ass and sit on the Security Council and such.



    The US keeps installing puppets to keep them down. I am glad they are
    all going to live with you the oppressors in the US. You reap what you
    sow, so to speak. Enjoy.

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  • From 28A.K864@21:1/5 to John Carlson on Sat Mar 11 22:26:32 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.survival, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 3/11/23 8:54 PM, John Carlson wrote:
    28A.K864 wrote on 3/11/2023 8:41 PM:
    On 3/11/23 6:02 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2023-03-11, 28A.K864 <28A.K864@noqbgba.net> wrote:
    On 3/11/23 12:55 AM, devils work wrote:
    On 10 Mar 2023, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted
    some news:dXTOL.991090$gGD7.90961@fx11.iad:



    max headroom wrote on 3/10/2023 11:55 PM:
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1,
    1934
    (19Ā years and 4Ā days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti >>>>>>>>



    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!



    And then we invaded Haiti again from 1994-1995 to installed our
    puppet.
    LOL!!!

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/haiti

    Followed by the benevolent locusts.

    The Clintons’ Haiti Screw-Up, As Told By Hillary’s Emails

    <https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email- >>>>>
    213110/>


        Haiti has NEVER been what you'd call a "solid country".
        Endless dictators and coups, social decohesion and
        grinding poverty. Can't get its shit together and at
        this point I doubt it ever will - they've burned up every
        resource and cannot organize future money-making enterprises
        even WITH foreign investments.

        Haitians seem to be pretty sharp people - good IQ and
        plenty of energy. Alas that does NOT necessarily translate
        into a successful COUNTRY. There's too big a disconnect
        between PERSONAL gain and EVERYONE'S gain, 'Me' =vs= 'We'.
        Haven't been able to get from 'A' to 'B' in centuries.

    Before I retired, the security staff in building I worked in was
    mostly Haitians and I'd see them
    sitting at their station, studying engineering or other technical
    subjects for college. I have
    always been impressed as they are very hard workers and very smart.


      This has been my experience as well - whatever makes for
      smart, they have it. They also have a lot of energy, maybe
      slackers get eliminated from the gene pool there real quick ?
      No spare anything to support lazy-asses. Hire a Haitian and
      he'll be the foreman next year and in management the next.

      BUT, as I said, "smart" alone does not make for a good
      country. There has to be some underlying paradigm, a
      philosophy, a general-welfare plan, that kinda permeates
      the brain and behavior. Haiti seems to have missed out
      on this even though there are much better focused nations
      all around it as examples.

      In their defense though, it took the Euros thousands of years
      to kinda get past the de-facto "gangsta rule" thing (kinda)
      and understand that national wealth/status/prosperity requires
      the WHOLE nation to at least have fair opportunity and justice
      AND be well-organized so a System can develop. THEN you can
      make money out the ass and sit on the Security Council and such.



    The US keeps installing puppets to keep them down.

    To try and prevent TOTAL disaster. Then we give them
    start-up money - but it never helps. It's not a cold
    war thing, the commies don't want Haiti, it's a
    'humanitarian disaster'.

    I am glad they are all going to live with you

    On the whole, they are effective and productive
    workers and managers - better than anything coming
    out of Wokie-U these days.

    the oppressors in the US.

    We don't oppress them. We keep TRYING to stabilize
    things just enough to stop the gangsters and create
    a productive and fair system. As said, there seem to
    be some deep reasons why that never quite works.

    You reap what you sow, so to speak. Enjoy.

    We sow, and sow again. Even the UN sows and sows again.
    But we never get a good crop. Haiti is an "exception",
    a variety of cultural/historical factors, that constantly
    thwart all attempts to change it into a success. Early
    promise decays into anarchy over and over again and the
    'leaders' quickly start acting and doing like gangsters.

    As for Haitians IN the USA ... I like 'em. In the bitter
    end there may need to be some vast diaspora, pretty much
    evac the whole country and spread 'em out between the
    Americas and Europe. Haiti can become some kind of
    tropical nature reserve ...

    But, oh yea - never, ever, seriously threaten a Haiti Man
    or .....

    Be civil.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to max headroom on Mon Mar 13 08:38:26 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.survival, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message news:zRTOL.1392099$iS99.101189@fx16.iad...
    Scout wrote on 3/10/2023 11:53 PM:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934
    (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti




    Americans should be classified as an invasive species. LOL!!!

    Agreed, and yet despite that, we're told by Democrats to turn over all
    power, all authority, all control.... to the government because only the government knows what is best for everyone..... or so saith the liberals.

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  • From Dr. Jade Helm@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Mar 13 22:04:06 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.survival, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 3/10/2023 9:53 PM, Scout wrote:


    28A.K864 wrote on 3/10/2023 11:02 PM:
    Wanna see, real-time, what "defund the police" means ? Look
    no further than HAITI. Even the charity orgs are fleeing as
    the gangsters run amok - a giant ongoing blood stain. The
    cops are useless, the State is useless. Gang-wars are the
    daily reality for millions.

    Yet there are many here, some in high positions, who see
    that as an ideal the USA should emulate.


    Everything the US touched turned to shit.

    The US invaded and occupied Haiti from July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 (19 years and 4 days)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti



    Some interesting history of Haiti that is often overlooked:

    https://reparationscomm.org/reparations-news/when-france-extorted-haiti-the-greatest-heist-in-history/

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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