On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 08:57:58 +0200 (CEST), in talk.politics.guns
"Mooney" <mooney@meta.com> wrote:
In article <s1jcp2$2gbc$4@neodome.net>
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Compared to the original, this "remake" is a loser.
Wimpy ugly d-lister studio sweeper "actor" niggers and queers.
What a waste of time watching this piece of shit.
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
It's a difficult book to adapt. It depends on internal monologues
which are easy to write but hard to turn into physical activities.
!Jones wrote:
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 08:57:58 +0200 (CEST), in talk.politics.guns
"Mooney" <mooney@meta.com> wrote:
In article <s1jcp2$2gbc$4@neodome.net>
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Compared to the original, this "remake" is a loser.
Wimpy ugly d-lister studio sweeper "actor" niggers and queers.
What a waste of time watching this piece of shit.
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
It's a difficult book to adapt. It depends on internal monologues which
are easy to write but hard to turn into physical activities.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:32:31 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
It's a difficult book to adapt. It depends on internal monologues
which are easy to write but hard to turn into physical activities.
I haven't seen the movie... either of them. One may as well try to
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
!Jones wrote:
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 08:57:58 +0200 (CEST), in talk.politics.guns
"Mooney" <mooney@meta.com> wrote:
In article <s1jcp2$2gbc$4@neodome.net>
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Compared to the original, this "remake" is a loser.
Wimpy ugly d-lister studio sweeper "actor" niggers and queers.
What a waste of time watching this piece of shit.
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
It's a difficult book to adapt. It depends on internal monologues
which are easy to write but hard to turn into physical activities.
Nearest thing these days .... "Cult Of Personality".
It should be a legal requirement to play that hourly
every election day :-)
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:32:31 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise ><chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
It's a difficult book to adapt. It depends on internal monologues
which are easy to write but hard to turn into physical activities.
I haven't seen the movie... either of them. One may as well try to
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
!Jones wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:32:31 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
I suggest that, instead of watching the movie, you should consider
reading the book. (How come they ban books but never movies?)
It's a difficult book to adapt. It depends on internal monologues
which are easy to write but hard to turn into physical activities.
I haven't seen the movie... either of them. One may as well try to
Dune Prime is persian empire In Space.
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
The remake is that aliens who have nothing to do with Earth decide
they can dispossess humans from our birth planet. It ends with the
suggestion that we are reduced back to the stone age where the
Earth can support a few millions; the excess billions will be
starve to death.
Either way not compassionate aliens.
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
It's so radically different from the original, the only reason they kept the title must've
been to take advantage of the fame of the original.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise ><chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah,
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered with
silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
*acting* was superb!
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah,
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered with
silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
*acting* was superb!
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered
with
silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
It was a rubberized suit, not duct tape.
!Jones wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was
the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah,
Well considered then and now but even today not seen as a masterpiece.
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered with
silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
It was a rubberized suit, not duct tape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort_(The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still)
*acting* was superb!
It was a cold war allegory with major christian elements (the most
obvious one being being revived after being shot, but there's a
lot more).
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:14:30 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
!Jones wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was >>>>> the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah,
Well considered then and now but even today not seen as a masterpiece.
You're joking right? It's a masterpiece of science fiction. How many other movies of
that year still sell regularly?
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered with
silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
It was a rubberized suit, not duct tape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort_(The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still)
*acting* was superb!
It was a cold war allegory with major christian elements (the most
obvious one being being revived after being shot, but there's a
lot more).
Yes, a product of its time. The underlying message was not unlike Christ's philosophy or
the admonition against shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:14:30 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>
!Jones wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was >>>>>> the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah,
Well considered then and now but even today not seen as a masterpiece.
You're joking right? It's a masterpiece of science fiction. How many other movies of
that year still sell regularly?
Of science fiction, yes, but the above does not make that
distinction. 1951 also saw the likes of "The African Queen",
"Strangers on a Train", "Streetcar Named Desire". Also some
biblicals and musicals.
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered with
silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
It was a rubberized suit, not duct tape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort_(The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still)
*acting* was superb!
It was a cold war allegory with major christian elements (the most
obvious one being being revived after being shot, but there's a
lot more).
Yes, a product of its time. The underlying message was not unlike Christ's philosophy or
the admonition against shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater.
Well, old testament fire and brimstone message. As in, behave
or DIE IN PAIN.
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 23:02:39 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:14:30 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>
!Jones wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise >>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:Well considered then and now but even today not seen as a masterpiece.
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was >>>>>>> the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us.
One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us
to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah, >>>>
You're joking right? It's a masterpiece of science fiction. How many other movies of
that year still sell regularly?
Of science fiction, yes, but the above does not make that
distinction. 1951 also saw the likes of "The African Queen",
"Strangers on a Train", "Streetcar Named Desire". Also some
biblicals and musicals.
Which doesn't change the fact that it's no B movie relegated to the dustbin of history. It
was a first rate, major studio film with a message that Cold War America needed to hear.
"Stop committing suicide." Thankfully, we listened.
by today's standards, a plywood "space ship" and a robot covered with >>>>> silver duct tape (and he really *was*) wouldn't cut muster. The
It was a rubberized suit, not duct tape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort_(The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still)
*acting* was superb!
It was a cold war allegory with major christian elements (the most
obvious one being being revived after being shot, but there's a
lot more).
Yes, a product of its time. The underlying message was not unlike Christ's philosophy or
the admonition against shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater.
Well, old testament fire and brimstone message. As in, behave
or DIE IN PAIN.
Damn! Almost! Except that Christ never said that. Iirc, it was Paul who promised
eternal flames.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 23:02:39 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:14:30 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
!Jones wrote:You're joking right? It's a masterpiece of science fiction. How many other movies of
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri Cruise >>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:Well considered then and now but even today not seen as a masterpiece. >>>>
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest disappointment was >>>>>>>> the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds us. >>>>>>> One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to get us >>>>>>> to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie* starring
Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at the time! Yeah, >>>>>
that year still sell regularly?
Of science fiction, yes, but the above does not make that
distinction. 1951 also saw the likes of "The African Queen",
"Strangers on a Train", "Streetcar Named Desire". Also some
biblicals and musicals.
Which doesn't change the fact that it's no B movie relegated to the dustbin of history. It
Neither was Kong, or Metropolis or Things to Come etc, but still
not in the same category as something like African Queen.
(Forbidden Planet deserves a lot more credit too)
was a first rate, major studio film with a message that Cold War America needed to hear.
"Stop committing suicide." Thankfully, we listened.
Only took a few decades ...
Yes, a product of its time. The underlying message was not unlike Christ's philosophy or
the admonition against shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater.
Well, old testament fire and brimstone message. As in, behave
or DIE IN PAIN.
Damn! Almost! Except that Christ never said that. Iirc, it was Paul who promised
eternal flames.
Works out the same.
On Thu, 4 May 2023 23:08:30 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 23:02:39 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:14:30 -0600, Gronk
<invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
!Jones wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:30:49 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
make a movie out of Dhalgren. I think my greatest
disappointment was the remake of *The Day the Earth Stood
Still*.
I dont' see either as hopeful. A robot dictatorship surrounds
us. One of them, Gort, takes a pet human, Klaatu, to Earth to
get us to peacefully accept our robot overlords.
I didn't say the *story* was realistic; the 1951 *movie*
starring Michael Rennie and Patricia Neal was a masterpiece at
the time! Yeah,
Well considered then and now but even today not seen as a
masterpiece.
You're joking right? It's a masterpiece of science fiction. How
many other movies of that year still sell regularly?
Of science fiction, yes, but the above does not make that
distinction. 1951 also saw the likes of "The African Queen",
"Strangers on a Train", "Streetcar Named Desire". Also some
biblicals and musicals.
Which doesn't change the fact that it's no B movie relegated to the
dustbin of history. It
Neither was Kong, or Metropolis or Things to Come etc, but still
not in the same category as something like African Queen.
Nor is African Queen the same as It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World but
it's every bit as much a masterpiece. Straight up drama is overrated.
;)
(Forbidden Planet deserves a lot more credit too)
And moving to television, it's amazing that the original Star Trek has
held up as well as it has. Those lessons we haven't quite gotten yet.
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
On Fri, 05 May 2023 17:54:02 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
They don't call it the "Golden Age of Television" for nothing.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 05 May 2023 17:54:02 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
They don't call it the "Golden Age of Television" for nothing.
Beanie and Cecil or Rocky and Bullwinkle?
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
Mitchell Holman wrote:
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jJcG4M1uGY
Did The Twilight Zone Predict Donald Trump's Presidency in 1963?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ID7k0_xn4
Twilight Zone end monologue from He's Alive
Hes alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that
when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear
his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when
you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind,
unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. Hes
alive because through these things we keep him alive.
On Mon, 22 May 2023 22:45:31 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jJcG4M1uGY
Did The Twilight Zone Predict Donald Trump's Presidency in 1963?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ID7k0_xn4
Twilight Zone end monologue from He's Alive
“He’s alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that
when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear
his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when
you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind,
unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He’s
alive because through these things we keep him alive.”
From back when Nazi evil was still fresh in the public memory.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2023 22:45:31 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>
Mitchell Holman wrote:
I am amazed to see my kids friends
seeking old episodes of Alfred Hitchcock
and Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. Stories
driven by ideas and witty dialoge instead
of special effects and CGI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jJcG4M1uGY
Did The Twilight Zone Predict Donald Trump's Presidency in 1963?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ID7k0_xn4
Twilight Zone end monologue from He's Alive
Hes alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that
when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear
his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when
you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind,
unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. Hes
alive because through these things we keep him alive.
From back when Nazi evil was still fresh in the public memory.
ANd being played out again today. Lessons from history...
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