• Lithium Fires - Rising Damage/Death Toll

    From 24D.224@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 6 02:56:07 2023
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    It's especially bad in the larger cities where
    people have lots of e-scooters/bikes. Can't leave
    them outside or the Wokie-loved thugs will steal
    them - so they charge them inside.

    Until FLASH !!!

    Most of those devices have el-cheapo batteries
    and unregulated chargers. Sooner or later you'll
    have a sudden and intense fire.

    I've seen lithium batteries explode - sometimes
    from basically zero cause. They go up very hot
    and smokey. It's amazing how a small bat can
    cause so much mayhem.

    Well, there's a LOT of energy stored ...

    The escalating problem - now branded as serious by
    several big cities - is mostly due to AGE ... the
    scooters and such get used to the max. This ages
    the batteries quickly and the bad chargers soon
    OVER-charge them. Boom.

    Sorry, we're talking a large percentage being owned
    by "poorer" people ... they are NOT gonna junk the
    things or buy better chargers. Can't threaten them
    either - no insurance, no steady jobs, nothing to lose.
    It's basically several incendiary devices in every
    apt building that'll go off at random.

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  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 6 08:20:03 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.survival, alt.politics.usa

    On 6/6/2023 2:56 AM, 24D.224 wrote:
    It's especially bad in the larger cities where
    people have lots of e-scooters/bikes. Can't leave
    them outside or the Wokie-loved thugs will steal
    them - so they charge them inside.

    Until FLASH !!!

    Most of those devices have el-cheapo batteries
    and unregulated chargers. Sooner or later you'll
    have a sudden and intense fire.

    I've seen lithium batteries explode - sometimes
    from basically zero cause. They go up very hot
    and smokey. It's amazing how a small bat can
    cause so much mayhem.

    Well, there's a LOT of energy stored ...

    The escalating problem - now branded as serious by
    several big cities - is mostly due to AGE ... the
    scooters and such get used to the max. This ages
    the batteries quickly and the bad chargers soon
    OVER-charge them. Boom.

    Sorry, we're talking a large percentage being owned
    by "poorer" people ... they are NOT gonna junk the
    things or buy better chargers. Can't threaten them
    either - no insurance, no steady jobs, nothing to lose.
    It's basically several incendiary devices in every
    apt building that'll go off at random.

    It is a serious problem and the reason I would never own an EV.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/1162732820/e-bike-scooter-lithium-ion-battery-fires

    People argue that gasoline is flammable and just as dangerous but it
    takes oxygen for gas to burn whereas all the energy in a battery is self contained. If an EV catches fire in your attached garage it is bye, bye
    house.

    I would not just blame el cheapo batteries. They may be more hazardous
    in catching fire but no worse than better batteries when either catches
    fire.

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