• Re: Twenty-six years since the Hong Kong handover, China has ripped up

    From Yes liberals are stupid@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 09:53:51 2023
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    On 03 Nov 2021, No COVID Lies <bob7duncan@gmail.com> posted some news:slv0fk$f8f$32@news.dns-netz.com:

    The fools actually expected China to honor the deal?

    Twenty-six years ago today, Hong Kong was handed over to China on a
    promise.

    Beijing made the commitment, under an international treaty, to protect
    Hong Kong’s freedoms, the rule of law, human rights, way of life and
    autonomy for at least fifty years. Over the past decade, and especially in
    the past few years, Beijing has completely broken its promises, torn up
    the treaty and dismantled Hong Kong’s freedoms. It has turned Hong Kong
    from one of Asia’s most open cities into one of its most repressive police states.

    The erosion of Hong Kong’s freedoms began a decade or more ago, but
    Beijing dealt a hammer-blow to whatever was left of liberty when it
    imposed a draconian National Security Law on the city, with no debate, no discussion and precious little warning.

    In the three years since this law was introduced, all of Hong Kong’s major independent media has been forced to shut down, over 60 civil society organisations – including political parties, trade unions, student unions
    and human rights groups – have disbanded, books have been banned and the legislature has been transformed from a vibrant centre of debate into a
    zombie quisling puppet show.

    According to legal scholar Johannes Chan, by late May this year, 251
    people had been arrested for national security offences. Someone was
    arrested every 4.2 days. They include legislators, journalists, students, academics and political activists. Nearly four in five of those charged
    are denied bail, and some have spent over two years in jail awaiting
    trial. The conviction rate is 100%.

    This has chilling echoes of the legal system in mainland China. This week
    I hosted two remarkably courageous men who served several years in jail in China. Both are foreign nationals. Peter Humphrey, a British citizen, is a former Reuters journalist and due diligence investigator with almost half
    a century of experience in China, while Marius Balo is a Romanian
    theologian. Peter and his wife spent two years in jail in Shanghai, and
    Marius served eight years, for crimes they did not commit.

    On Monday they testified in Parliament to the Conservative Party Human
    Rights Commission, and Peter made the point that in China “police,
    prosecutors and judges are all part of the same family – the Communist
    Party”. The police do not conduct investigations with any detective or
    forensic procedures.

    “They rely on extracting confessions from detainees while being
    interrogated day by day locked inside a cage,” Peter told our hearing. In addition, witness statements are coerced, prosecution witnesses are not cross-examined – or even required to appear in court – and, in Peter’s
    words, “no contradictory evidence is allowed”. Forced televised
    confessions are often used, and no defence witnesses are called to court.
    No wonder the Chinese system achieves an almost 100% success rate in convictions.

    This is the legal system into which Hong Kong has morphed. A city that
    until recently prided itself on the rule of law is becoming part of the
    Chinese Communist Party’s family. That is why the authorities have denied
    Hong Kong media entrepreneur Jimmy Lai the right to choose his own lawyer,
    and blocked British barrister Tim Owen, KC from representing him, despite rulings by the Court of Final Appeal that Mr Owen should be permitted to
    act for Mr Lai.

    There are three sobering lessons in all of this.

    First, the mendacious regime in Beijing simply cannot be trusted to keep
    its word. Its promises in any treaty are not worth the paper they are
    written on.

    Second, there are huge risks to doing business in China. Not only
    financial risks, but physical, moral and ethical risks. If you try to do
    due diligence, especially now with a new espionage law that takes effect
    today and that interprets corporate due diligence investigations as
    spying, you could end up in jail for a long time. Peter Humphrey’s case is
    a trail blazer – the recent crackdown on Mintz, Bain and other corporate investigators signals worse to come. Yet if you cannot do due diligence,
    you are highly likely to be unwittingly using forced labour or prison
    labour in your supply chains, and turning a blind eye to corruption.

    Third, China only respects strength. If we continue the policy of the past
    few decades, of kowtowing, naively thinking that trying to befriend the dictators in Beijing will soften their hearts, we will only embolden
    Beijing’s increasing repression against its own peoples and aggression
    beyond its borders.

    We have to show strength. That means speaking out for our citizens when
    they are jailed, defending international agreements when they are
    violated, promoting our values when they are attacked and ensuring there
    are consequences for Beijing’s crimes.

    Rumours abound that Foreign Secretary James Cleverly may visit Beijing
    soon. I have reservations about this, but for me, the more important
    debate about such a visit is not whether or not it should happen, but what
    are the conditions and objectives of it. If he uses the visit to deliver
    very clear, robust demands seeking the release of British citizens in jail
    in China – including Mr Lai in Hong Kong – and spells out what the
    consequences will be if the current trajectory of repression, aggression,
    slave labour and atrocity crimes continues, then I have an open mind. If
    he sacrifices human rights as he kowtows at the altar of Xi Jinping, then
    he will have betrayed Britain.

    As we mark the anniversaries of the handover of Hong Kong and the
    imposition of the security law, let us reflect on our relationship with
    the regime in Beijing with a sober and informed mind. Can we trust them?
    On the basis of the evidence, the answer is no. And so we must stand up to them. Failure to do so will not only be a betrayal of our values – it will
    be an invitation to them to further assault, infiltrate, intimidate,
    influence and threaten us. That’s not an invitation I think we should give
    on this anniversary, as we survey the carnage of broken promises.

    Benedict Rogers is co-founder and Chief Executive of Hong Kong Watch and
    author of “The China Nexus: Thirty Years In and Around the Chinese
    Communist Party’s Tyranny”.

    kevin
    1 day ago

    Anyone surprised? It's scary that the geniuses in charge ignore the
    obvious in order to gain financial success. The Chinese government has had
    a agenda for the past three decades and the people representing the free
    world are sell outs.

    https://news.yahoo.com/twenty-six-years-since-hong-080000718.html

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to fools@msnbc.com on Tue Jul 4 13:51:59 2023
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    On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 09:53:51 +0200 (CEST), Yes liberals are stupid <fools@msnbc.com> wrote:

    On 03 Nov 2021, No COVID Lies <bob7duncan@gmail.com> posted some >news:slv0fk$f8f$32@news.dns-netz.com:

    The fools actually expected China to honor the deal?

    Twenty-six years ago today, Hong Kong was handed over to China on a
    promise.

    Beijing made the commitment, under an international treaty, to protect
    Hong Kong’s freedoms, the rule of law, human rights, way of life and
    autonomy for at least fifty years. Over the past decade, and especially in >the past few years, Beijing has completely broken its promises, torn up
    the treaty and dismantled Hong Kong’s freedoms. It has turned Hong Kong
    from one of Asia’s most open cities into one of its most repressive police >states.

    Softly softly catchee Monkey.
    Only people born yesterday would believe the word of a Communist.

    Given Zionland's invasion of the West Bank, they all live in the USA.

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