• Re: Soc.Culture.Usa

    From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Tell it like it is. on Sun Jul 9 13:11:26 2023
    On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 2:38:18 PM UTC-5, Tell it like it is. wrote:
    A half dozen Kiev residents were dissatisfied with the President's decision to ally with Christian Russia rather than with the European Union the future United States of Europe.
    Sic residents of Kiev it appears went to Presidents Obama and his vice President O'Biden and asked for Money from American Tax Payers to attack the eastern border of the Ukraine for refusing to accept the Coup d,Etat in a Ukrainian DEMOCRACY.
    The American Tax money was used to ethnic Cleanse the Ukrainian population along the eastern border for refusing to accept the Coup d,etat in Kiev, Ukraine and Capital of Ukraine. That AMERICAN TAX MONEY resulted in 10,000 Ukrainian CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.

    With the whole world looking on a second attempt is in the offing. I know ethnic cleansing when I see it. It began in 1948 and succesfully. usurped the land of Palestine from its lawful owners native Jew native Muslim and native Christian. By Zionist
    Jews.
    It is a sad choice between Biden and Trump, but Biden, as a result of his Ukrainian war efforts, simply will not get my vote under any circumstances, I would rather endure Civil War between fascists and the rest of US than experience nuclear conflict
    related to the US war effort related to Ukraine. So some prefer the chaos of Trump to a nuclear holocaust because Biden has had a hard-on against Russia since 2014 and before
    What is the judgment when mankind refuses to react favorably with GOD. Recall the tale about the Golden Calf and the Ten Commandments when the majority, in a democratic fashion, decided to spite GOD as we all do when we err or sin: we should have not
    done that and see what it got us into. Should have seen it coming?
    Many times we think that our bad judgment doesn't really matter, so the mistakes can be overlooked or forgotten.

    I have never supported the US position concerning Ukraine because I recall what happened in 2014 by reading both points of view. Certainly, I recognize Putin's lies and "lies", but I also recognize how Washington still speaks with a very forked tongue.
    Do you know who else spoke with a forked tongue to Eve?

    In short, a war with Russia or China would likely injure the United States on a scale without precedent in the living memory of most citizens. That, in turn, introduces profound uncertainty about how the American political system would perform. Getting
    in would be the easy part. More elusive is whether the public and its representatives would maintain the will to fight over far-flung territories in the face of sustained physical attack and economic calamity. When millions are thrown out of work, will
    they find Taiwan’s cause worth their sacrifice? Could national leaders compellingly explain why the United States was paying the grievous price of World War III?


    These questions will be asked during a conflict, so they ought to be asked in advance. Even those who think the United States should fight for Ukraine or Taiwan have an interest in educating the public about the stakes of great power conflict in the
    nuclear and cyber age.

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  • From Tell it like it is.@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 9 12:38:14 2023
    A half dozen Kiev residents were dissatisfied with the President's decision to ally with Christian Russia rather than with the European Union the future United States of Europe.
    Sic residents of Kiev it appears went to Presidents Obama and his vice President O'Biden and asked for Money from American Tax Payers to attack the eastern border of the Ukraine for refusing to accept the Coup d,
    Etat in a Ukrainian DEMOCRACY.
    The American Tax money was used to ethnic Cleanse the Ukrainian population along the eastern border for refusing to accept the Coup d,etat in Kiev, Ukraine and Capital of Ukraine. That AMERICAN TAX MONEY resulted
    in 10,000 Ukrainian CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.
    With the whole world looking on a second attempt is in the offing. I know ethnic cleansing when I see it. It began in 1948 and succesfully. usurped the land of Palestine from its lawful owners native Jew
    native Muslim and native Christian. By Zionist Jews.

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Tell it like it is. on Sun Jul 9 21:10:39 2023
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    On 7/9/2023 2:38 PM, Tell it like it is. wrote:
    A half dozen Kiev residents were dissatisfied with the President's decision to ally with Christian Russia rather than with the European Union the future United States of Europe.
    Sic residents of Kiev it appears went to Presidents Obama and his vice President O'Biden and asked for Money from American Tax Payers to attack the eastern border of the Ukraine for refusing to accept the Coup d,
    Etat in a Ukrainian DEMOCRACY.
    The American Tax money was used to ethnic Cleanse the Ukrainian population along the eastern border for refusing to accept the Coup d,etat in Kiev, Ukraine and Capital of Ukraine. That AMERICAN TAX MONEY
    resulted in 10,000 Ukrainian CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.
    With the whole world looking on a second attempt is in the offing. I know ethnic cleansing when I see it. It began in 1948 and succesfully. usurped the land of Palestine from its lawful owners native
    Jew native Muslim and native Christian. By Zionist Jews.

    Bolshevik murderous Jews. The shame of the Bolsheviks slaughter of 8
    million Ukrainians in the early 1900's seems to continue today and not
    one word of complaint from Israel. Is it because a large part of Israel consists of Russian-Jewish immigrants? Perhaps Israel has a sweetheart
    deal with Russia? America needs to keep a much better eye on our
    so-called allies. Please not that while America is engaged is avoiding a
    war in other areas of the world the Israeli's have started another
    conflict behind our backs with the slaughter and theft of more Arab
    land. I believe that some very honest entity needs to write the true
    history of the entire Jewish Zionist/Bolshevik history for the last 150
    years. Also punitive measure should be taken for the massacre of the
    Unarmed United States spy ship *USS Liberty* by the Israeli Government.
    All of Israels lies about that event should be judged and deleted from
    the internet.

    Read all of the listed items on this URL and judge for yourself.

    https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Uss%20liberty&hspart=fc&hsimp=yhs-3753&type=fc_A5762EC6628_s69_g_e_d_n4500_c11&param1=7&param2=eJwVjsEOgjAMhl%2BlR01M144Ng7v6BF4JBwJjWcTNgAjx6e0u%2Fb9%2BTZo%
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    bnVsbA==

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Sun Jul 9 21:41:39 2023
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    On 7/9/2023 3:11 PM, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 2:38:18 PM UTC-5, Tell it like it is. wrote:
    A half dozen Kiev residents were dissatisfied with the President's decision to ally with Christian Russia rather than with the European Union the future United States of Europe.
    Sic residents of Kiev it appears went to Presidents Obama and his vice President O'Biden and asked for Money from American Tax Payers to attack the eastern border of the Ukraine for refusing to accept the Coup d,Etat in a Ukrainian DEMOCRACY.
    The American Tax money was used to ethnic Cleanse the Ukrainian population along the eastern border for refusing to accept the Coup d,etat in Kiev, Ukraine and Capital of Ukraine. That AMERICAN TAX MONEY resulted in 10,000 Ukrainian CIVILIAN
    CASUALTIES.
    With the whole world looking on a second attempt is in the offing. I know ethnic cleansing when I see it. It began in 1948 and succesfully. usurped the land of Palestine from its lawful owners native Jew native Muslim and native Christian. By Zionist
    Jews.
    It is a sad choice between Biden and Trump, but Biden, as a result of his Ukrainian war efforts, simply will not get my vote under any circumstances, I would rather endure Civil War between fascists and the rest of US than experience nuclear conflict
    related to the US war effort related to Ukraine. So some prefer the chaos of Trump to a nuclear holocaust because Biden has had a hard-on against Russia since 2014 and before
    What is the judgment when mankind refuses to react favorably with GOD. Recall the tale about the Golden Calf and the Ten Commandments when the majority, in a democratic fashion, decided to spite GOD as we all do when we err or sin: we should have not
    done that and see what it got us into. Should have seen it coming?
    Many times we think that our bad judgment doesn't really matter, so the mistakes can be overlooked or forgotten.

    I have never supported the US position concerning Ukraine because I recall what happened in 2014 by reading both points of view. Certainly, I recognize Putin's lies and "lies", but I also recognize how Washington still speaks with a very forked tongue.
    Do you know who else spoke with a forked tongue to Eve?

    In short, a war with Russia or China would likely injure the United States on a scale without precedent in the living memory of most citizens. That, in turn, introduces profound uncertainty about how the American political system would perform. Getting
    in would be the easy part. More elusive is whether the public and its representatives would maintain the will to fight over far-flung territories in the face of sustained physical attack and economic calamity. When millions are thrown out of work, will
    they find Taiwan’s cause worth their sacrifice? Could national leaders compellingly explain why the United States was paying the grievous price of World War III?


    These questions will be asked during a conflict, so they ought to be asked in advance. Even those who think the United States should fight for Ukraine or Taiwan have an interest in educating the public about the stakes of great power conflict in the
    nuclear and cyber age.

    No need for a physical war for our allies. Actually many of our
    threatened allies provide strength to our alliance and would damage us
    even more if we failed to live up to our commitments. The economic war
    is our best advantage. Bring back all our heavy manufacturing(quickly)
    from China and then Russia and Iran without the strength of that
    country would be easier to deal with on a fair and honest level. We have
    to clean out the corrupt power mongers from our own Government in order
    for this to work. Actual trials and executions seem to be the only way
    to cleanse us of their past and ongoing crime. Biden family and others
    are a shame on the face of America. How many of our young military
    people must fight and die for the idiosyncrasies of these criminals.
    These fools have already warred us into many $Trillions of financial
    bankruptcy and left a horrible stain upon our constitution. Someone said
    that for a person to be a citizen and a patriot they must own a piece of America. We have millions of land stolen by Government that could be Homesteaded and provide homesteads and taxes and more for our young that
    cannot afford $300,000 to $500,000 homes on $15.00 an hour. Give them
    some skin in the game. Bring back age 21 voting, age 18 3-2 alcohol,age
    21 hard liquor. Give back Gun rights to younger then 21. stop the
    moronic sending them to armed war at 18 but no guns for anything until
    21? Bring in term limits. Make Senators to be appointed by their state /governor. Stop the craziness of Dictator like executive orders by
    Presidents. Do a historical study of Switzerland's copy or our
    Constitution and see why they wonder where we went wrong. God bless
    America(the real America)


    Also outlaw the hiring by Government of Mercenary Armies.
    Make it easier to arrest and try Public officials.. With the possibility
    of execution for high crimes.

    bnVsbA==

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