https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12293403/Ocean-temperatures-Florida-coast-hit-hot-tub-like-NINETY-SEVEN-degrees.html
. . .
Yep, the arrow points to Clearwater Beach FL - west coast.
97f is incredibly hot for ocean water, even in the Gulf Of Mexico.
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:02:54 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12293403/Ocean-temperatures-Florida-coast-hit-hot-tub-like-NINETY-SEVEN-degrees.html
. . .
Yep, the arrow points to Clearwater Beach FL - west coast.
97f is incredibly hot for ocean water, even in the Gulf Of Mexico.
"According to Manzello, the sea temperatures in Florida have been more
than 2 degrees Celsius higher than average for almost two weeks."
So it's abut three and a half degrees above average. I've swam at that
beach and it would boil a lobster.
Well ... it's bathtub warm anyhow. At a minimum expect lots of dead
fish/coral and weird algae blooms.
Is it "GW" ? Not necessarily. GW is a VERY long-term trend - not THIS
year's weather.
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:48:27 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
Well ... it's bathtub warm anyhow. At a minimum expect lots of dead
fish/coral and weird algae blooms.
Is it "GW" ? Not necessarily. GW is a VERY long-term trend - not THIS
year's weather.
When I see Unprecedented!!!! I become suspicious. The Winooski River in Vermont has reached an unprecedented level, well at least since 1927.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vermont_Flood_of_1927
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:48:27 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
Well ... it's bathtub warm anyhow. At a minimum expect lots of dead
fish/coral and weird algae blooms.
Is it "GW" ? Not necessarily. GW is a VERY long-term trend - not THIS
year's weather.
When I see Unprecedented!!!! I become suspicious. The Winooski River in Vermont has reached an unprecedented level, well at least since 1927.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vermont_Flood_of_1927
On 7/13/23 10:12 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:48:27 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
Well ... it's bathtub warm anyhow. At a minimum expect lots of dead >>> fish/coral and weird algae blooms.
Is it "GW" ? Not necessarily. GW is a VERY long-term trend - not
THIS
year's weather.
When I see Unprecedented!!!! I become suspicious. The Winooski River in
Vermont has reached an unprecedented level, well at least since 1927.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vermont_Flood_of_1927
Well, usually "unprecedented" is by a quarter-inch or half
a degree or something - so don't be TOO impressed :-)
Oh, and there weren't many SUVs in 1927, so who/what do
you blame for THAT ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12293403/Ocean-temperatures-Florida-coast-hit-hot-tub-like-NINETY-SEVEN-degrees.html
. . .
Yep, the arrow points to Clearwater Beach FL - west coast.
97f is incredibly hot for ocean water, even in the Gulf
Of Mexico.
There has been a sort of standing pressure area over the
Gulf for about a month, re-circulating hotter and hotter
air. Temperatures inland Florida have been at or around
the 100f mark with high humidity and tropical-level storms
flooding the east. NOT the best time to go to Disney - even
their trannies will melt. This heat bubble extends across
most of Texas to Georgia to Florida and has been causing
rather a lot of deaths.
La Nina abruptly changed back to El Nino this spring and
that means weather everyone was used to is going to change
in weird ways too.
Now in theory, such conditions would suggest cat-5 storms
forming and blasting up to New Orleans and such. However
hurricanes kinda rely on a temperature gradient - hot at
the surface but cooler above - and currently it's hot
EVERYWHERE.
You'd find this article interesting and informative:
https://off-guardian.org/2023/07/12/reality-check-no-we-didnt-just-have-th >e-hottest-week-in-100000-years/
Reality Check: No, we didn Tt just have othe hottest week in 100,000 >years Or, ohow people are blinded by meaningless statistics .
Now, first off let Ts be clear " we haven Tt had the o7 the hottest >days in the last 100,000 years since July 4
or, more accurately, there is absolutely no way for anyone to reliably >know if we have or not.
Actually think about what they Tre saying when they make this claim.
They are claiming that they know, for a fact, the global average
temperature to two decimal points over the last 36 million days.
Couple of things to bear in mind here before we go any further.
1 " Humans have only had the ability to accurately measure the
temperature of anything for maybe four-hundred years.
2 " Official oglobal temperature records only began in 1880.
3 " Beyond that point we only have partial, local and pretty
inaccurate readings back to the mid-17th century.
That Ts 400 years, give or take.
So, how do climatologists get the data for the other 99,600 years?
Well " they guess.
Sorry, they omodel , using tree ring data and ice core samples.
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 11:35:50 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
On 7/13/23 10:12 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:48:27 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
Well ... it's bathtub warm anyhow. At a minimum expect lots of
dead fish/coral and weird algae blooms.
Is it "GW" ? Not necessarily. GW is a VERY long-term trend - not
THIS year's weather.
When I see Unprecedented!!!! I become suspicious. The Winooski River
in Vermont has reached an unprecedented level, well at least since
1927.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vermont_Flood_of_1927
Well, usually "unprecedented" is by a quarter-inch or half a degree
or something - so don't be TOO impressed :-)
Oh, and there weren't many SUVs in 1927, so who/what do you blame for
THAT ?
Horse farts. I live on the bottom of a 1200' deep lake if you go back
about 13,000 years. Must have been the mammoths.
On 7/13/23 10:12 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:48:27 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
Well ... it's bathtub warm anyhow. At a minimum expect lots of
dead fish/coral and weird algae blooms.
Is it "GW" ? Not necessarily. GW is a VERY long-term trend - not
THIS year's weather.
When I see Unprecedented!!!! I become suspicious. The Winooski River
in Vermont has reached an unprecedented level, well at least since
1927.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vermont_Flood_of_1927
Well, usually "unprecedented" is by a quarter-inch or half a degree
or something - so don't be TOO impressed :-)
Oh, and there weren't many SUVs in 1927, so who/what do you blame for
THAT ?
Damned mammoths ! Lucky we ate 'em all ! They had it coming !!!
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 00:40:40 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
Damned mammoths ! Lucky we ate 'em all ! They had it coming !!!
Yeah, those nature loving Native Americans were an extinction event all to themselves. They ate up all the mastodons too.
https://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibitions/ongoing/cohoes-mastodon-0
My great grandfather was on the crew that found that guy. Can't even build
a dam without stumbling over one. I loved the old State Museum. It was the classic endless arrays of stuff. The new one is designed for light entertainment.
I really DO think we ate 'em all - a month's worth of food for the
group, useful bones/ivory/hide, and maybe they were very *tasty* as
well. Some like to blame the fall of the 'megafauna' on weather, but
it seems to have disappeared right in the wake of human(-ish)
expansion. I also suspect WE killed the Neanderthals ... humans don't
like "others".
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 20:35:01 -0400, 36J.955 wrote:
I really DO think we ate 'em all - a month's worth of food for the
group, useful bones/ivory/hide, and maybe they were very *tasty* as
well. Some like to blame the fall of the 'megafauna' on weather, but
it seems to have disappeared right in the wake of human(-ish)
expansion. I also suspect WE killed the Neanderthals ... humans don't
like "others".
I don't know about mastodons but I think my ancestors had a taste for
aurochs barbecue. It's a wonder the Indians didn't eat all the bison too.
It took the white man to nearly drive the species to extinction.
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