• What's With All The "Black" Movie Revisions ?

    From 56d.1153@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 01:29:24 2023
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    No, not anything 'racial' ...

    "Black"/"Dark"/"Horrible"/"Depressing"/"Psycho" ...

    We kinda saw it first with the "Batman" movies.
    The protagonist went from Moral/Ethical superman
    to seriously brain-damaged nutter.

    Didn't take long for others to follow.

    Looking right now at a version of "RoboCop',
    2014.

    It's psychos and more psychos, all with a
    Napolean complex. Nasty, dark, gross, no
    humor, no insight, just loons and more loons.

    The original Weller "RoboCop" was a great
    comment on Modern Times. It managed to be
    both serious and comic/cynical. A wonderful
    indictment.

    This 2014 version though - lunacy and more
    lunacy ... all dark and evil and insane.
    No "insight", no relevant "social commentary"
    or implied solutions or Hope.

    APPARENTLY we're supposed to think these "black"
    movies are More Relevant, More True, because
    they're More Gritty/Nasty/Horrible.

    Um ... no.

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  • From cld@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 19:11:56 2023
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    56d.1153 wrote:
    No, not anything 'racial' ...

    "Black"/"Dark"/"Horrible"/"Depressing"/"Psycho" ...

    We kinda saw it first with the "Batman" movies.
    The protagonist went from Moral/Ethical superman
    to seriously brain-damaged nutter.

    Didn't take long for others to follow.

    Looking right now at a version of "RoboCop',
    2014.

    It's psychos and more psychos, all with a
    Napolean complex. Nasty, dark, gross, no
    humor, no insight, just loons and more loons.

    The original Weller "RoboCop" was a great
    comment on Modern Times. It managed to be
    both serious and comic/cynical. A wonderful
    indictment.

    This 2014 version though - lunacy and more
    lunacy ... all dark and evil and insane.
    No "insight", no relevant "social commentary"
    or implied solutions or Hope.

    APPARENTLY we're supposed to think these "black"
    movies are More Relevant, More True, because
    they're More Gritty/Nasty/Horrible.

    Um ... no.

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    It's a good representation of where America has been going,
    for years.

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  • From 56d.1153@21:1/5 to cld on Thu Nov 23 21:39:36 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, soc.culture, alt.hollywood

    On 11/22/23 2:11 PM, cld wrote:
    56d.1153 wrote:
    No, not anything 'racial' ...

    "Black"/"Dark"/"Horrible"/"Depressing"/"Psycho" ...

    We kinda saw it first with the "Batman" movies.
    The protagonist went from Moral/Ethical superman
    to seriously brain-damaged nutter.

    Didn't take long for others to follow.

    Looking right now at a version of "RoboCop',
    2014.

    It's psychos and more psychos, all with a
    Napolean complex. Nasty, dark, gross, no
    humor, no insight, just loons and more loons.

    The original Weller "RoboCop" was a great
    comment on Modern Times. It managed to be
    both serious and comic/cynical. A wonderful
    indictment.

    This 2014 version though - lunacy and more
    lunacy ... all dark and evil and insane.
    No "insight", no relevant "social commentary"
    or implied solutions or Hope.

    APPARENTLY we're supposed to think these "black"
    movies are More Relevant, More True, because
    they're More Gritty/Nasty/Horrible.

    Um ... no.

    -------------------

    It's a good representation of where America has been going,
    for years.

    Everybody looks for ONE reason, ONE excuse.

    They may say anti-heroes are the problem, but those
    have been eternally popular. 'Robin Hood', aside from
    the sugary Errol Flynn version, was a sort of anti-
    hero. Bad stuff mixed with good. The "penny dreadfuls"
    of the latter 1800s. Spaghetti Clint is an anti-hero.
    Shelly's "creature" was an anti-hero.

    But, the stories/films with anti-heroes generally turn
    out BETTER at the end. The anti-hero may not be VERY
    'moral', but the tilt is towards doing the right thing
    and everyone lives (happier) ever-after.

    Today's ... people are fucked at the beginning AND at
    the end.

    "Stories" can - at least used to before big $$$ got
    involved - tell us a lot about a culture. It's dreams
    and aspirations so to speak, not trying to be hokey.
    Too many of today's products are a gun stuck in your
    mouth ... misery and horror and madness.

    Do the stories make the society or does the society
    make the stories ? A bit of both I think ...

    Anyway, just mentioning a trend I've noticed. Not 100%
    sure what it MEANS, if anything, just that it's there.

    Oddly, I suspect that "news" stories may be more potent.
    The huge uptick in people who show up somewhere and kill
    everyone in sight - then immortalized by the MSM. That
    may promote copycat thinking.

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