https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-cuts-production-of-electric-truck-they-touted-as-the-future-hiring-hundreds-to-build-more-gas-vehicles
. . .
HA-Ha ! Sorry, but EVs fit a narrow (usually green-poser) niche
and aren't useful for Real World rough work.
A lot of people drive trucks just because they look cool and
'country' ... but there's a considerable segment that actually
NEEDS the performance/range of a big gas/diesel engine for
practical work.
If you want an e-truck, buy one of Musk's monstrosities.
Kinda looks like a 'Transformers' version of an el-Camino.
On 2024-01-20, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-cuts-production-of-electric-truck-they-touted-as-the-future-hiring-hundreds-to-build-more-gas-vehicles
. . .
HA-Ha ! Sorry, but EVs fit a narrow (usually green-poser) niche
and aren't useful for Real World rough work.
A lot of people drive trucks just because they look cool and
'country' ... but there's a considerable segment that actually
NEEDS the performance/range of a big gas/diesel engine for
practical work.
If you want an e-truck, buy one of Musk's monstrosities.
Kinda looks like a 'Transformers' version of an el-Camino.
I guess that horrible road trip the CEO took in order to show off the F-150 EV has taken it's toll.
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fords-ceo-admits-reality-check-during-f-150-lightning-route-
66-road-trip>
Ford is making a very smart move cutting back on EV production.
On 1/20/24 11:47 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-cuts-production-of-electric-truck-they-touted-as-the-future-hiring-hundreds-to-build-more-gas-vehicles
. . .
HA-Ha ! Sorry, but EVs fit a narrow (usually green-poser) niche
and aren't useful for Real World rough work.
A lot of people drive trucks just because they look cool and
'country' ... but there's a considerable segment that actually
NEEDS the performance/range of a big gas/diesel engine for
practical work.
If you want an e-truck, buy one of Musk's monstrosities.
Kinda looks like a 'Transformers' version of an el-Camino.
I guess that horrible road trip the CEO took in order to show off the F-150 EV has taken it's toll.
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fords-ceo-admits-reality-check-during-f-150-lightning-route-
66-road-trip>
Ford is making a very smart move cutting back on EV production.
They all HAVE to wait for the next-gen battery tech - there's
just no getting around it. Govt mandates and greenie prop don't
change physics. Lithium-ion is just NOT what's required (and
is kinda dangerous as well not to mention $$$).
Now waiting to see if some of those oh-so-righteous euro-car
makers relent on their plans to go All-EV in a couple of years.
On 2024-01-21, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
On 1/20/24 11:47 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-cuts-production-of-electric-truck-they-touted-as-the-future-hiring-hundreds-to-build-more-gas-vehicles
. . .
HA-Ha ! Sorry, but EVs fit a narrow (usually green-poser) niche
and aren't useful for Real World rough work.
A lot of people drive trucks just because they look cool and
'country' ... but there's a considerable segment that actually
NEEDS the performance/range of a big gas/diesel engine for
practical work.
If you want an e-truck, buy one of Musk's monstrosities.
Kinda looks like a 'Transformers' version of an el-Camino.
I guess that horrible road trip the CEO took in order to show off the F-150 EV has taken it's toll.
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fords-ceo-admits-reality-check-during-f-150-lightning-route-
66-road-trip>
Ford is making a very smart move cutting back on EV production.
They all HAVE to wait for the next-gen battery tech - there's
just no getting around it. Govt mandates and greenie prop don't
change physics. Lithium-ion is just NOT what's required (and
is kinda dangerous as well not to mention $$$).
Now waiting to see if some of those oh-so-righteous euro-car
makers relent on their plans to go All-EV in a couple of years.
Indeed.
And reaction of the left ignoring the dangers and faults of EV cars says it all.
Just in case anyone is interested, this is what a lithium ion leech field looks like.
<https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/02/01/south-america-s-lithium-fields-reveal-the-dark-side-of-
our-electric-future>
On 2024-01-21, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
On 1/20/24 11:47 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-cuts-production-of-electric-truck-they-touted-as-the-future-hiring-hundreds-to-build-more-gas-vehicles
. . .
HA-Ha ! Sorry, but EVs fit a narrow (usually green-poser) niche
and aren't useful for Real World rough work.
A lot of people drive trucks just because they look cool and
'country' ... but there's a considerable segment that actually
NEEDS the performance/range of a big gas/diesel engine for
practical work.
If you want an e-truck, buy one of Musk's monstrosities.
Kinda looks like a 'Transformers' version of an el-Camino.
I guess that horrible road trip the CEO took in order to show off the F-150 EV has taken it's toll.
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fords-ceo-admits-reality-check-during-f-150-lightning-route-
66-road-trip>
Ford is making a very smart move cutting back on EV production.
They all HAVE to wait for the next-gen battery tech - there's
just no getting around it. Govt mandates and greenie prop don't
change physics. Lithium-ion is just NOT what's required (and
is kinda dangerous as well not to mention $$$).
Now waiting to see if some of those oh-so-righteous euro-car
makers relent on their plans to go All-EV in a couple of years.
Indeed.
And reaction of the left ignoring the dangers and faults of EV cars says it all.
Just in case anyone is interested, this is what a lithium ion leech field looks like.
<https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/02/01/south-america-s-lithium-fields-reveal-the-dark-side-of-
our-electric-future>
On 1/21/24 9:45 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-21, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
On 1/20/24 11:47 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, 57e.1283 <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-cuts-production-of-electric-truck-they-touted-as-the-future-hiring-hundreds-to-build-more-gas-vehicles
. . .
HA-Ha ! Sorry, but EVs fit a narrow (usually green-poser) niche >>>>> and aren't useful for Real World rough work.
A lot of people drive trucks just because they look cool and >>>>> 'country' ... but there's a considerable segment that actually >>>>> NEEDS the performance/range of a big gas/diesel engine for
practical work.
If you want an e-truck, buy one of Musk's monstrosities.
Kinda looks like a 'Transformers' version of an el-Camino.
I guess that horrible road trip the CEO took in order to show off the F-150
EV has taken it's toll.
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fords-ceo-admits-reality-check-during-f-150-lightning-route-
66-road-trip>
Ford is making a very smart move cutting back on EV production.
They all HAVE to wait for the next-gen battery tech - there's
just no getting around it. Govt mandates and greenie prop don't
change physics. Lithium-ion is just NOT what's required (and
is kinda dangerous as well not to mention $$$).
Now waiting to see if some of those oh-so-righteous euro-car
makers relent on their plans to go All-EV in a couple of years.
Indeed.
And reaction of the left ignoring the dangers and faults of EV cars says it all.
Just in case anyone is interested, this is what a lithium ion leech field
looks like.
<https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/02/01/south-america-s-lithium-fields-reveal-the-dark-side-of-
our-electric-future>
While we are used to denial-of-physics (and worse) from
the further left,
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 18:18:05 -0500, "57e.1283" <57e.1283@etq5.net> wrote:
While we are used to denial-of-physics (and worse) from
the further left, the most surprising thing in all this
has been their Who Cares attitude about how all those
batteries are MADE ... SLAVE LABOR and mass-scale
landscape/ecological damage.
Slave labor doesn't seem to be a problem for consumers buying cheap clothes at Walmart.
Swill
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 18:21:37 -0700, John Doe <NoOne@private.corp> wrote:
People who follow this aren't willing to shut down a rev 1 industry any >>more than people shut down the first versions of Windows and Mac OS. And >>they are aware that far better batteries are on the near horizon. But
EVs are the future. The only question is when. There are just WAY too
many advantages from fuel economy to far reduced maintenance and
assembly cost because of far fewer parts.
Batteries aside, EVs are easier and cheaper to produce.
Watch this ICE tear down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_n89ugJrA
All those moving parts! All those assembly steps! All that polluting FILTH!
Tesla motor teardown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVge8I6kxPY
You could teardown and rebuild one of these in a white suit and still make the wedding.
Inside an EV repair shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6beCVz43ZJE
The biggest issue with EVs seems to be battery issues: environmental impact, safety,
charging speed, power capacity, etc.
This means the core of the issue is battery technology which, as you note, is rapidly
changing.
Swill
On 2024-01-23, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 18:21:37 -0700, John Doe <NoOne@private.corp> wrote:
People who follow this aren't willing to shut down a rev 1 industry any
more than people shut down the first versions of Windows and Mac OS. And >>> they are aware that far better batteries are on the near horizon. But
EVs are the future. The only question is when. There are just WAY too
many advantages from fuel economy to far reduced maintenance and
assembly cost because of far fewer parts.
Batteries aside, EVs are easier and cheaper to produce.
Watch this ICE tear down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_n89ugJrA
All those moving parts! All those assembly steps! All that polluting FILTH!
Tesla motor teardown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVge8I6kxPY
You could teardown and rebuild one of these in a white suit and still make the wedding.
Inside an EV repair shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6beCVz43ZJE
The biggest issue with EVs seems to be battery issues: environmental impact, safety,
charging speed, power capacity, etc.
This means the core of the issue is battery technology which, as you note, is rapidly
changing.
Swill
Sure they have less moving parts but the cost to repair EV cars at least for the present is crazy
high.
Hertz discovered that.
Plus the mechanics need a lot of special tools and training.
Again, that may change over time.
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 00:47:14 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
Swill wrote:
Inside an EV repair shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6beCVz43ZJE
The biggest issue with EVs seems to be battery issues: environmental impact, safety,
charging speed, power capacity, etc.
This means the core of the issue is battery technology which, as you note, is rapidly
changing.
Sure they have less moving parts but the cost to repair EV cars at least for the present is crazy
high.
Hertz discovered that.
Plus the mechanics need a lot of special tools and training.
Again, that may change over time.
You should check out the link above. The tech talks about limited availability of the
types of tools they need and making their own equipment like engine stands that work for
electric motors instead of ICEs.
I remember buying my first PC. It cost three grand and by today's standards was a
laughable piece of junk! I can buy any number of laptops for a fourth of that money
that'll run circles around it.
EV proponents keep saying and detractors keep forgetting, any given technology gets
cheaper over time.
When I was a kid, my dad got a Sears Silvertone 21 inch full console TV. It was in a
beautiful stressed pecan cabinet and had *two* speakers, though it wasn't stereo.
In 1965 that TV cost him $600. More than a month's pay and about 6,000 in today's
dollars.
Today, you can get a 65 inch flat panel with dozens of streaming services built in, stereo
sound, usb, external surround sound and other device hookups for as little as $200.
When we moved, we had to call Sears to come out and degauss the thing. Today there's no
such thing as a TV repair shop. That TV lasted about five years. Today's flat panels
will last a decade or more.
Same thing with EVs. They'll get cheaper, service will get cheaper and the air will get
cleaner.
Swill
On 2024-01-23, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 18:21:37 -0700, John Doe <NoOne@private.corp> wrote:
People who follow this aren't willing to shut down a rev 1 industry any
more than people shut down the first versions of Windows and Mac OS. And >>> they are aware that far better batteries are on the near horizon. But
EVs are the future. The only question is when. There are just WAY too
many advantages from fuel economy to far reduced maintenance and
assembly cost because of far fewer parts.
Batteries aside, EVs are easier and cheaper to produce.
Watch this ICE tear down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_n89ugJrA
All those moving parts! All those assembly steps! All that polluting FILTH!
Tesla motor teardown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVge8I6kxPY
You could teardown and rebuild one of these in a white suit and still make the wedding.
Inside an EV repair shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6beCVz43ZJE
The biggest issue with EVs seems to be battery issues: environmental impact, safety,
charging speed, power capacity, etc.
This means the core of the issue is battery technology which, as you note, is rapidly
changing.
Swill
Sure they have less moving parts but the cost to repair EV cars at least for the present is crazy
high.
Hertz discovered that.
Plus the mechanics need a lot of special tools and training.
Again, that may change over time.
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