• The Horrible Hopeless "Abortion" Conflict - DROP The Extremes !

    From 68g.1509@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 21:49:42 2024
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/19/abortion-access-map-funding-00141436

    Abortion campaigns scramble for limited cash

    From deep-red Arkansas and Missouri to purple Arizona and
    Nevada, activists are already competing with each other.,

    . . .

    Ok, look folks - this is an issue that cannot be resolved
    to anyone's total satisfaction. Science offers little,
    ethics offers little, religions are all over the place
    on the subject.

    Unfortunately, the issue was taken-over by fanatical
    extremists. Both 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' went to
    the rail-bumping radical edge in their philosophies
    on the subject and drowned-out everyone else. This
    has become more than words - there has been overt
    violence and terrorism and some badly-thought
    totalitarian-style legal "fixes" intended, but
    failing, to please all of the people all of the time.

    BOTH extremes are BAD POLITICS. The general public does
    not like the black-n-white "choices", grasps that there
    are many shades of grey involved in Real Life here.

    Compromise is needed. This will make neither extreme
    happy, will ruin their crusades (and fund-raising).
    However the 'grey-ness' kind of demands this.

    I'll offer the "semesterist" compromise ... any
    pregnancy less than half done and the State gets
    no authority. But, beyond that, when we're now
    more into the "wired like a human" stage, the
    restrictions increase sharply and 3rd parties
    must become involved in JUDGING.

    This will freak the "every sperm is sacred" nutters
    AND the "half-born babies aren't babies" nutters.
    GOOD - it's what they deserve. The REST of us can
    get on with stuff that maybe DOES have definite
    yes/no decisions involved.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 09:45:12 2024
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    On 2/19/2024 7:49 PM, 68g.1509 wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/19/abortion-access-map-funding-00141436

    Abortion campaigns scramble for limited cash

    From deep-red Arkansas and Missouri to purple Arizona and
    Nevada, activists are already competing with each other.,

    . . .

      Ok, look folks - this is an issue that cannot be resolved
      to anyone's total satisfaction. Science offers little,
      ethics offers little, religions are all over the place
      on the subject.

      Unfortunately, the issue was taken-over by fanatical
      extremists. Both 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' went to
      the rail-bumping radical edge in their philosophies
      on the subject and drowned-out everyone else. This
      has become more than words - there has been overt
      violence and terrorism and some badly-thought
      totalitarian-style legal "fixes" intended, but
      failing, to please all of the people all of the time.

      BOTH extremes are BAD POLITICS. The general public does
      not like the black-n-white "choices", grasps that there
      are many shades of grey involved in Real Life here.

      Compromise is needed. This will make neither extreme
      happy, will ruin their crusades (and fund-raising).
      However the 'grey-ness' kind of demands this.

    I totally agree. We need compromise and consistency.
    Alabama has decided that embryos are children. https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/02/20/frozen-embryos-are-children-says-alabama-supreme-court/

    If this was adopted across America, fertility clinics would be shut
    down, and couples wanting children but needing help would be shut out.

      I'll offer the "semesterist" compromise ... any
      pregnancy less than half done and the State gets
      no authority. But, beyond that, when we're now
      more into the "wired like a human" stage, the
      restrictions increase sharply and 3rd parties
      must become involved in JUDGING.

      This will freak the "every sperm is sacred" nutters
      AND the "half-born babies aren't babies" nutters.
      GOOD - it's what they deserve. The REST of us can
      get on with stuff that maybe DOES have definite
      yes/no decisions involved.

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