• 80s "Xanadu" Futuristic Homes Now All Gone

    From 68g.1509@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 20:15:03 2024
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13110535/Do-Xanadu-Houses-series-early-computerised-houses-built-survive.html

    The Xanadu Houses were experimental homes designed to showcase
    new building technology and automation in the home. They were
    built in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin; Kissimmee, Florida; and
    Gatlinburg, Tennessee. None survive.

    Xanadu was the brainchild of Bob Masters, a pioneer of rigid
    insulation as a building material. He created a system of
    giant balloons covered with polyurethane foam, which was
    then allowed to harden, forming a series of domed structures.

    The rooms were controlled by Commodore computers. The kitchen
    featured an 'autochef', an electronic dietitian that planned
    and produced balanced meals and featured concepts such as
    teleshopping, CCTV and a health-monitoring system. Unfortunately,
    these ideas were way ahead of the technology, leaving visitors
    unimpressed.

    . . .

    The Commodore-64 didn't even come out until 1982,
    so these must have been the PET, mostly text-based,
    computers. Still seemed "futuristic" in the early
    80s though.

    The odd-looking foam-over-mesh construction really
    ain't bad. They're fairly strong, although you have
    to be careful about the exact foam mix or they'll
    stiffen and turn to powder after awhile. Sprayed
    concrete over mesh is the more modern solution.

    Dome-shaped, extensible, homes DO look weird, but
    they ARE viable and fairly cheap/quick to do.
    Worth another look in these days of super-expensive
    housing.

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  • From 68hx.1805@21:1/5 to Marika on Mon Mar 18 01:13:27 2024
    XPost: alt.construction, talk.politics.misc, soc.culture

    On 3/18/24 12:08 AM, Marika wrote:
    68g.1509 <68g.1505@exr3.net> wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13110535/Do-Xanadu-Houses-series-early-computerised-houses-built-survive.html

    The Xanadu Houses were experimental homes designed to showcase
    new building technology and automation in the home. They were
    built in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin; Kissimmee, Florida; and
    Gatlinburg, Tennessee. None survive.

    Xanadu was the brainchild of Bob Masters, a pioneer of rigid
    insulation as a building material. He created a system of
    giant balloons covered with polyurethane foam, which was
    then allowed to harden, forming a series of domed structures.

    The rooms were controlled by Commodore computers. The kitchen
    featured an 'autochef', an electronic dietitian that planned
    and produced balanced meals and featured concepts such as
    teleshopping, CCTV and a health-monitoring system. Unfortunately,
    these ideas were way ahead of the technology, leaving visitors
    unimpressed.

    . . .

    The Commodore-64 didn't even come out until 1982,
    so these must have been the PET, mostly text-based,
    computers. Still seemed "futuristic" in the early
    80s though.

    The odd-looking foam-over-mesh construction really
    ain't bad. They're fairly strong, although you have
    to be careful about the exact foam mix or they'll
    stiffen and turn to powder after awhile. Sprayed
    concrete over mesh is the more modern solution.

    Dome-shaped, extensible, homes DO look weird, but
    they ARE viable and fairly cheap/quick to do.
    Worth another look in these days of super-expensive
    housing.


    Haha! My exact reaction!


    Kind-of delayed commentary, but yea.

    There are two or three kinds of "instant"/cheap homes.
    Foam-over-mesh, sprayed concrete-over-mesh (better), or
    welded together old steel cargo containers (strongest).

    Foam-over IS functional in most locales. Maybe not in
    serious hurricane zones alas.

    Concrete-over is significantly stronger, yet still
    not TOO expensive.

    There was flirtation with geodesic domes ... seen a
    few in my area ... but so far as I've heard they always
    had a LEAKAGE issue, dome roofs are a pain, the seams
    always leak. Urethane-membrane-over-dome ... maybe.

    The AIM is for CHEAP, yet maybe Cat-4 rated.

    Yea, they DO look kinda weird in general - but the
    PRICE ..... plus you can add-on at any time.

    The cargo containers are Cat-5+ fer sure, but they
    ARE a lot of steel and thus kinda expensive and
    there are only SO many "old" ones. I don't think
    new equivs CAN be made for an affordable price,
    too much metal involved.

    And that's the current scene.

    Alas most of the world badly BADLY *NEEDS* quick
    cheap decent housing. Property prices are soon
    to create a new Lords/Serfs class arrangement -
    castles or dung-huts and nothing in-between.
    Let's just say that isn't gonna work out well ...

    Oh yea ... WHAT was with all the "mushroom buildings"
    vision of the late 50s/early-60s ??? I did see some
    "mushroom" houses in Florida on the shore of lake
    Okeechobee ... but after a Cat-3 only like ONE was
    left standing. Structurally UNSAFE design to the max.
    SNAP !!!

    MY old Dream Home ... too old now ... an old civil
    water tower with about 20' of the legs left on.
    Phosphoric then urethane+paint over, stairs and
    elevator. The bottom level could be a swimming
    pool ! :-) Next up, Atlas missile silo. They
    DO come on the market from time to time.

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