• Re: BLM Leader: Chiefs' Super Bowl Win Symbolizes 'White Supremacy'

    From 68hx.1806@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 22 21:54:23 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to 68hx.1805@g5t8x.net on Tue Apr 23 12:46:23 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Apr 23 12:53:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:v08aiv$1k3l3$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the
    Salem witch trials of the late 1600's intermixed with some pre-war
    Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.


    Huh?

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  • From George Whiteman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 23 16:04:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa


    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".


    Everybody's after Trump only because he's white. Wearing all that bronzer
    was supposed to protect him but so far no luck.

    BLM has a lot of reach, spies everywhere.

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  • From 68hx.1806@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Apr 23 19:04:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From 68hx.1806@21:1/5 to George Whiteman on Tue Apr 23 19:06:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/23/24 12:04 PM, George Whiteman wrote:

    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".


    Everybody's after Trump only because he's white. Wearing all that bronzer was supposed to protect him but so far no luck.

    BLM has a lot of reach, spies everywhere.


    And so WHERE are the GOP spies and operatives ???
    If you neglect The Game, you LOSE.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to 68hx.1805@g5t8x.net on Thu Apr 25 02:00:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure. >>
    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.
    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From 68hx.1806@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Apr 25 00:29:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/24/24 10:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    The DIFF these days is the litigious culture that
    has developed. It makes 'leaders' AFRAID to Do
    Anything. Restrain some maniac with a knife and
    a dozen activist groups will SUE EVERYONE. The
    standard of proof for 'civil' cases is much lower
    than for criminal cases. The lawyers will spin
    a huge sob or -ism story - and WIN.

    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    The USA has been kinda banana - depending on your defs -
    a number of times. Ye olde Cold War was one of those
    times - everything anti-commie excused/promoted. I'm
    old enough to remember that culture.

    And, as usual, one extreme was replaced by another.

    Thing is, the 'left' was BETTER AT IT than the 'right'.

    So don't bitch, compete - get up to their speed. Learn
    their tricks and DO BETTER. I'm tired of hearing the
    anti-ANTIFA whine about how "unfair" it all is. Nobody
    gives a shit and NOTHING can come from that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Apr 25 08:00:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/24/2024 8:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    I never thought I'd see the day when a mob would cheer on a guy making
    fun of the disabled and POWs.

    INTISTDW a serial cheater would be selling his gullible flock bibles.

    INTISTDW a guy whose family got 2B from foreign interests while he was president complain that the current president was too wealthy and that a
    crowd would be unaware of the logical result of a six-decade run of
    saving, prudent spending, compound interest, and book deals.

    INTISTDW a major political party would push for violence over votes.

    INTISTDW a crowd would be pissing on the Constitution by chanting "eight
    more years" to a guy who already had four in the tank.

    INTISTDW a guy in court for having directed crimes could tell his
    followers that the guy already convicted FOR FOLLOWING HIS ORDERS was
    more guilty than he was, and not get laughed out of the room.

    INTISTDW a guy could tell his followers he committed crimes to keep his adultery secret from his wife rather than influencing an election when
    the agreements called for the parties to keep their silence only until
    ELECTION DAY.

    I remember when the GOP was much more intelligent, but just like Fox
    "news" the more ethical, knowledgeable people are constantly being edged
    out by liars and con men who tell the audience that people who disagree
    with them politically are traitors.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to 68hx.1805@g5t8x.net on Thu Apr 25 14:50:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 2024-04-25, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/24/24 10:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    The DIFF these days is the litigious culture that
    has developed. It makes 'leaders' AFRAID to Do
    Anything. Restrain some maniac with a knife and
    a dozen activist groups will SUE EVERYONE. The
    standard of proof for 'civil' cases is much lower
    than for criminal cases. The lawyers will spin
    a huge sob or -ism story - and WIN.

    True.



    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    The USA has been kinda banana - depending on your defs -
    a number of times. Ye olde Cold War was one of those
    times - everything anti-commie excused/promoted. I'm
    old enough to remember that culture.

    Tons of propaganda during those times. Blacklists, untruths about Russia and so forth.


    And, as usual, one extreme was replaced by another.

    History tends to repeat itself.
    We never seem to learn.


    Thing is, the 'left' was BETTER AT IT than the 'right'.

    So don't bitch, compete - get up to their speed. Learn
    their tricks and DO BETTER. I'm tired of hearing the
    anti-ANTIFA whine about how "unfair" it all is. Nobody
    gives a shit and NOTHING can come from that.

    The left is much better at it. They are organized, mostly in lockstep and carry out their missions
    usually with success.
    The Republicans are a disorganized mess always promising investigations and so forth and never
    actually accomplishing anything other than wasting time and money.

    If the republicans wish to win in 2024 they need to play the same games that the democrats do. Get
    down into the pig sty and go at it. That's how they can win. Stuff like early voting, mail in
    ballots, campaigns to register voters and so forth.

    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Apr 25 12:49:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/25/2024 8:50 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-25, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/24/24 10:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    The DIFF these days is the litigious culture that
    has developed. It makes 'leaders' AFRAID to Do
    Anything. Restrain some maniac with a knife and
    a dozen activist groups will SUE EVERYONE. The
    standard of proof for 'civil' cases is much lower
    than for criminal cases. The lawyers will spin
    a huge sob or -ism story - and WIN.

    True.



    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    The USA has been kinda banana - depending on your defs -
    a number of times. Ye olde Cold War was one of those
    times - everything anti-commie excused/promoted. I'm
    old enough to remember that culture.

    Tons of propaganda during those times. Blacklists, untruths about Russia and so forth.


    And, as usual, one extreme was replaced by another.

    History tends to repeat itself.
    We never seem to learn.


    Thing is, the 'left' was BETTER AT IT than the 'right'.

    So don't bitch, compete - get up to their speed. Learn
    their tricks and DO BETTER. I'm tired of hearing the
    anti-ANTIFA whine about how "unfair" it all is. Nobody
    gives a shit and NOTHING can come from that.

    The left is much better at it. They are organized, mostly in lockstep and carry out their missions
    usually with success.
    The Republicans are a disorganized mess always promising investigations and so forth and never
    actually accomplishing anything other than wasting time and money.

    If the republicans wish to win in 2024 they need to play the same games that the democrats do. Get
    down into the pig sty and go at it. That's how they can win. Stuff like early voting, mail in
    ballots, campaigns to register voters and so forth.


    I don't see "early voting, mail in ballots, campaigns to register voters
    and so forth" as being in the pig sty. I see them as ways to
    legitimately encourage voter participation from vets, active duty
    military, the disabled, the full-time workers with demanding jobs, and
    all other citizens. I don't see encouraging voting to be unpatriotic.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Apr 26 00:02:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 2024-04-25, John Doe <NoOne@private.corp> wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 8:50 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-25, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/24/24 10:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    The DIFF these days is the litigious culture that
    has developed. It makes 'leaders' AFRAID to Do
    Anything. Restrain some maniac with a knife and
    a dozen activist groups will SUE EVERYONE. The
    standard of proof for 'civil' cases is much lower
    than for criminal cases. The lawyers will spin
    a huge sob or -ism story - and WIN.

    True.



    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    The USA has been kinda banana - depending on your defs -
    a number of times. Ye olde Cold War was one of those
    times - everything anti-commie excused/promoted. I'm
    old enough to remember that culture.

    Tons of propaganda during those times. Blacklists, untruths about Russia and so forth.


    And, as usual, one extreme was replaced by another.

    History tends to repeat itself.
    We never seem to learn.


    Thing is, the 'left' was BETTER AT IT than the 'right'.

    So don't bitch, compete - get up to their speed. Learn
    their tricks and DO BETTER. I'm tired of hearing the
    anti-ANTIFA whine about how "unfair" it all is. Nobody
    gives a shit and NOTHING can come from that.

    The left is much better at it. They are organized, mostly in lockstep and carry out their missions
    usually with success.
    The Republicans are a disorganized mess always promising investigations and so forth and never
    actually accomplishing anything other than wasting time and money.

    If the republicans wish to win in 2024 they need to play the same games that the democrats do. Get
    down into the pig sty and go at it. That's how they can win. Stuff like early voting, mail in
    ballots, campaigns to register voters and so forth.


    I don't see "early voting, mail in ballots, campaigns to register voters
    and so forth" as being in the pig sty. I see them as ways to
    legitimately encourage voter participation from vets, active duty
    military, the disabled, the full-time workers with demanding jobs, and
    all other citizens. I don't see encouraging voting to be unpatriotic.

    Neither do I.
    As for LEGAL strategy the republicans need to promote these alternatives. It's well known that
    republicans are old school and tend to vote on election day. They need to chage that.

    As for getting into the pigsty, I'm speaking of all the other shady things the dems do.
    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From 68hx.1806@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Apr 26 00:02:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/25/24 8:02 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-25, John Doe <NoOne@private.corp> wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 8:50 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-25, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/24/24 10:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    The DIFF these days is the litigious culture that
    has developed. It makes 'leaders' AFRAID to Do
    Anything. Restrain some maniac with a knife and
    a dozen activist groups will SUE EVERYONE. The
    standard of proof for 'civil' cases is much lower
    than for criminal cases. The lawyers will spin
    a huge sob or -ism story - and WIN.

    True.



    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    The USA has been kinda banana - depending on your defs -
    a number of times. Ye olde Cold War was one of those
    times - everything anti-commie excused/promoted. I'm
    old enough to remember that culture.

    Tons of propaganda during those times. Blacklists, untruths about Russia and so forth.


    And, as usual, one extreme was replaced by another.

    History tends to repeat itself.
    We never seem to learn.


    Thing is, the 'left' was BETTER AT IT than the 'right'.

    So don't bitch, compete - get up to their speed. Learn
    their tricks and DO BETTER. I'm tired of hearing the
    anti-ANTIFA whine about how "unfair" it all is. Nobody
    gives a shit and NOTHING can come from that.

    The left is much better at it. They are organized, mostly in lockstep and carry out their missions
    usually with success.
    The Republicans are a disorganized mess always promising investigations and so forth and never
    actually accomplishing anything other than wasting time and money.

    If the republicans wish to win in 2024 they need to play the same games that the democrats do. Get
    down into the pig sty and go at it. That's how they can win. Stuff like early voting, mail in
    ballots, campaigns to register voters and so forth.


    I don't see "early voting, mail in ballots, campaigns to register voters
    and so forth" as being in the pig sty. I see them as ways to
    legitimately encourage voter participation from vets, active duty
    military, the disabled, the full-time workers with demanding jobs, and
    all other citizens. I don't see encouraging voting to be unpatriotic.

    Neither do I.
    As for LEGAL strategy the republicans need to promote these alternatives. It's well known that
    republicans are old school and tend to vote on election day. They need to chage that.

    Umm ... "augment". BUT, they need to match the position
    with ACTIVE ballot recruitment just like the Dems. The
    bits don't work unless you connect them in the right order.

    As for getting into the pigsty, I'm speaking of all the other shady things the dems do.

    Time to hold your nose, jump right in, and WIN.

    Get all moral/ethical/principled LATER. De-Woking
    has to come FIRST this election.

    Hey, saw some article that quoted an NYC blue-collar
    mook. His message to Biden was "Fuck You".

    Also of interest, NY Dems, higher-up ones, are now
    dissing AOC, saying she's totally fucked them with
    her border/immigrant crusade.

    There IS opportunity here, just has to be "developed",
    quick. So hire the damned Mad Men and make a coordinated
    campaign front that plays a tune which appeals to the many.

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  • From 68hx.1806@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Apr 25 23:43:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/25/24 10:50 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-25, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/24/24 10:00 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    On 4/23/24 8:46 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-04-23, 68hx.1806 <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
    Every drop of rain, every bird that flies, every coin
    that turns up heads, is RACIST dontchaknow :-)

    It's kinda like Church/Witchcraft ... ANYTHING can prove
    you're a witch, ANYTHING is justified "in the name of
    gawd".

    The irony is that what we are seeing now has much in common with the Salem witch trials of the late
    1600's intermixed with some pre-war Nazi Germany thrown in for good measure.

    We are on a path towards ultimate destruction.

    OR you could just view it as "just more of the same
    old shit" :-)

    It's not good, but it IS kinda 'typical', politics
    as usual.

    I respectfully disagree. Having lived through the cold war, the Vietnam protests, the Watts riots
    etc I have never seen anything like the upside down world we are living in now. Yea sure, ultra
    libs have always been around, just like far right people, but this is all out of control.
    Sure politics is part of it but there is far more to it.

    The DIFF these days is the litigious culture that
    has developed. It makes 'leaders' AFRAID to Do
    Anything. Restrain some maniac with a knife and
    a dozen activist groups will SUE EVERYONE. The
    standard of proof for 'civil' cases is much lower
    than for criminal cases. The lawyers will spin
    a huge sob or -ism story - and WIN.

    True.

    What we have here is one aspect of govt/law paralyzing
    other aspects of the same. Might be time for Fed and
    States to UN-do this dangerous BS. The most useful
    course would be to go straight for legislators PRIDE
    and SENSE OF AUTHORITY. How DARE civil courts over-rule
    you, undermine you, intimidate you, castrate you !!!

    As a student sitting in school in the 60's I never, ever, ever, thought I would see the day where
    the USA became a banana republic but here it is.
    If we don't vote the democrats out, especially Biden, we are going to end up as a pile of ashes.

    The USA has been kinda banana - depending on your defs -
    a number of times. Ye olde Cold War was one of those
    times - everything anti-commie excused/promoted. I'm
    old enough to remember that culture.

    Tons of propaganda during those times. Blacklists, untruths about Russia and so forth.


    SOME of it was TRUTH about the Russkies :-)

    In any case, in the 50s thru latter 60s, the USA was
    right-wing banana. Now it's left-wing banana. The
    actual chances of seeing NO-wing/NO-banana - I don't
    hold out much hope. That is NOT normal politics.
    Banging between one banana or another is more "normal",
    seems to be a "human nature" thing.

    The neat-o NEW thing is fascist-terrorist stooges who
    THINK they're "liberals" :-)


    And, as usual, one extreme was replaced by another.

    History tends to repeat itself.
    We never seem to learn.

    No. Not really.

    History does not repeat EXACTLY, but you can see
    "larger patterns" that do.

    Thing is, "politics" - and leanings thereof - are
    likely a genetic thing. This is why we see those
    similar patterns, because they're built-in by
    Darwin. Not in any specific *detail*, but in how
    a pop in general is likely to react to any kind
    of social environment.

    Thing is, the 'left' was BETTER AT IT than the 'right'.

    So don't bitch, compete - get up to their speed. Learn
    their tricks and DO BETTER. I'm tired of hearing the
    anti-ANTIFA whine about how "unfair" it all is. Nobody
    gives a shit and NOTHING can come from that.

    The left is much better at it. They are organized, mostly in lockstep and carry out their missions
    usually with success.
    The Republicans are a disorganized mess always promising investigations and so forth and never
    actually accomplishing anything other than wasting time and money.

    Republicans, at present, seem to be the Also-Ran party,
    those who don't fit with the lefties. Alas they often
    have little in COMMON with each other - each on their
    own little crusade. The left has been very clever and
    for a century has worked on getting everyone more or
    less on the SAME crusade - and willing to IGNORE minor
    devilish diffs For The Greater Cause.

    MTG was willing to sacrifice three countries to The Evil
    Ones just so HER little border crusade would be dominant -
    no circumspection, no statesmanship, no grasp of The
    Bigger Picture, no loyalty to the alleged GOP Cause.
    This is how too many Republicans (don't) think ....

    If the republicans wish to win in 2024 they need to play the same games that the democrats do. Get
    down into the pig sty and go at it. That's how they can win. Stuff like early voting, mail in
    ballots, campaigns to register voters and so forth.

    Get as down and dirty and SMART as the opposition. That
    is the only way to win. Saul Alinsky can work for ANY
    political party.

    November is creeping up soon now - I don't SEE the
    abovementioned.

    This is a race that's all the GOPs to LOSE.

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