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    From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 01:15:41 2024
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    We've seen it all through history. Expert swordsmen HAVE to be
    defeated by other expert swordsmen. Expert gun-fighters HAVE
    to be defeated by a better gun-slinger. Brutes HAVE to be
    defeated by a stronger brute. Even in "Harry Potter", expert
    magicians HAVE to be defeated by stronger magic. In "Trading
    Places" money people HAD to be defeated using money methods.

    Or how about a knife in the back ??? A sniper ??? Hooker
    bearing poison ???

    Oh no ! NOT THAT !!!!!!

    How come ?

    A great movie scene I remember - the first "Indiana Jones"
    film ... the huge black-clad killer appears, puts on a big
    display with his sword ... so our hero just plugs him with
    a .45 - problem solved :-)

    This idea that strong men, usually malevolent, HAVE to
    be defeated via their own strongest skill has hung on
    for what seems to be thousands of years. You see, might
    makes right, favor of The Gods, so .......

    Bullshit.

    This a WEIRD human cultural artifact dating back apparently
    to Sumeria and who knows how long before ('before' is now
    looking to be a lot more 'before' than initially assumed).
    IMHO, bad bad people deserve to get it ANY way, preferably
    one they were not expecting. It's the "bad bad" that's
    important, not the quality of their Kung Fu or whatever.

    Most recent paradigm-breaking - instead of taking on all
    the Hezbollah soldiers in a huge fight, Israel instead,
    sneakily for the most part, took out the high-ranking
    leadership. This left the org in chaos.

    Yea ... makes film and story a bit less colorful .....

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to 186283@ud0s4.net on Wed Oct 16 05:22:47 2024
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    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:15:41 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net"
    <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

    We've seen it all through history. Expert swordsmen HAVE to be
    defeated by other expert swordsmen. Expert gun-fighters HAVE
    to be defeated by a better gun-slinger. Brutes HAVE to be
    defeated by a stronger brute. Even in "Harry Potter", expert
    magicians HAVE to be defeated by stronger magic. In "Trading
    Places" money people HAD to be defeated using money methods.

    Or how about a knife in the back ??? A sniper ??? Hooker
    bearing poison ???

    Oh no ! NOT THAT !!!!!!

    How come ?

    A great movie scene I remember - the first "Indiana Jones"
    film ... the huge black-clad killer appears, puts on a big
    display with his sword ... so our hero just plugs him with
    a .45 - problem solved :-)

    This idea that strong men, usually malevolent, HAVE to
    be defeated via their own strongest skill has hung on
    for what seems to be thousands of years. You see, might
    makes right, favor of The Gods, so .......

    And for thousands of years the weak have resorted to witchcraft.


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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Oct 16 00:19:53 2024
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    On 10/15/24 11:22 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:15:41 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net"
    <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

    We've seen it all through history. Expert swordsmen HAVE to be
    defeated by other expert swordsmen. Expert gun-fighters HAVE
    to be defeated by a better gun-slinger. Brutes HAVE to be
    defeated by a stronger brute. Even in "Harry Potter", expert
    magicians HAVE to be defeated by stronger magic. In "Trading
    Places" money people HAD to be defeated using money methods.

    Or how about a knife in the back ??? A sniper ??? Hooker
    bearing poison ???

    Oh no ! NOT THAT !!!!!!

    How come ?

    A great movie scene I remember - the first "Indiana Jones"
    film ... the huge black-clad killer appears, puts on a big
    display with his sword ... so our hero just plugs him with
    a .45 - problem solved :-)

    This idea that strong men, usually malevolent, HAVE to
    be defeated via their own strongest skill has hung on
    for what seems to be thousands of years. You see, might
    makes right, favor of The Gods, so .......

    And for thousands of years the weak have resorted to witchcraft.


    No such thing.

    Mostly 'the weak' just SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER and do
    not DARE rock the boat. They yearn for a champion -
    but almost never get one. If they DO get one, the
    champion often becomes as bad as what came before.
    The politics of power are a constant, no matter who
    winds up in charge.

    Hmmm ... the other day the old 'Caveman' movie came
    on - Ringo Starr as the ultimate loser/weak-person
    forever bullied by the leader brute, never any pussy.
    It was a fun little movie - including VERY young
    examples of Dennis Quaid and Shelly Long. Our un-hero
    eventually triumphs, but again only by taking on the
    brute using (slightly smarter) brute force.

    NOWadays, 'the weak' DO have one big advantage - LAWYERS.
    Upset the whole equation .....

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