• Al-Shifa Hospital under Israeli control, turned into center for 'detent

    From NefeshBarYochai@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 21:23:01 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y

    Gaza's largest medical complex, Al-Shifa Hospital, fell under the
    control of the Israeli army on 15 November following an overnight raid
    that saw dozens of troops storm the hospital based on Israeli and US intelligence that alleged the complex houses a “Hamas command center.”

    “Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) use some hospitals in
    the Gaza Strip, including Al-Shifa and tunnels underneath them, to
    conceal and to support their military operations and to hold
    hostages,” US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said on
    Tuesday night, in comments that preceded the brutal raid on the
    besieged medical complex.

    Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh made similar comments
    before the raid, claiming that Washington obtained “newly declassified intelligence” showing Gaza resistance factions use hospitals as a “way
    to conceal and support their military operations and hold hostages."

    Neither US official provided evidence to back their claims, citing
    simply a “variety” of intelligence sourcing to back up the assertion.

    “Since last night, it’s been a nightmare that cannot be imagined […]
    Before storming the compound, they targeted all the floors, the
    generators, the communications unit, and now we can have no contact
    with the outside world,” Palestinian journalist Jihad Abu Shanab, who
    is inside the Al-Shifa compound, told Al-Jazeera on Wednesday morning.

    “[The Israelis] have told everyone to go up a floor, then go to a
    lower floor for investigation, and then they are forced to be
    interrogated, and they have seen a lot of humiliation,” he added.

    The Qatari news agency also cites sources saying “about 30 people
    [were] taken outside of the building, stripped of their clothes. They
    are in the courtyard of the hospital, blindfolded, surrounded by three
    tanks. There is one tank right at the front of the emergency
    department targeting any moving object inside these buildings.”

    Sources add that the Israeli tanks surrounding the hospital “blew up a warehouse of medicines and medical devices.”

    According to a statement by the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights
    Monitor, Israel has turned Al-Shifa Hospital into a center for
    “detention and torture.” The monitor also expressed concerns that
    patients, medical staff, and refugees will be executed as sporadic
    gunfire continues inside the complex.

    "Israeli allegations about the use of the Al-Shifa Medical Complex for
    military purposes do not need all these long hours of searching and
    raiding. Therefore, there are concerns that the army may be creating
    an artificial scene for a new play," Rami Abdu, the Chairman of the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, said on Wednesday.

    Staff inside the hospital report that the Israeli army has continued
    its attacks against the hospital, bombing several sections while live
    fire can be heard inside the complex.

    “Israeli drones are shooting anything moving inside the hospital,” the
    head of the orthopedics department told Al-Alam Radio.

    Videos shared online showed medical staff and volunteers transferring
    babies from one ward in Al-Shifa to another to protect them from the
    Israeli raid.

    According to Israeli media, the invading troops discovered “weapons
    and Hamas assets” inside the hospital. Nonetheless, Tel Aviv claims
    there is “no indication” of Israeli captives held inside the complex,
    as they previously claimed.

    “We hold the occupation [Israel] and President Biden wholly
    responsible for the assault on Al-Shifa medical complex,” Hamas said
    in a statement early on Wednesday.

    “The adoption by the White House and the Pentagon of the occupation’s
    false claim that the resistance is using Al-Shifa medical complex for
    military ends has given the green light to the occupation to commit
    more massacres against civilians,” the statement added.


    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/al-shifa-hospital-under-israeli-control-turned-into-center-for-detention-and-torture


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 16 10:52:43 2023
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    "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"...

    ...From Hamas. That's what Israelis are trying to do. Why not support
    them you lying spamming snivelling antisemitic cunt?

    Do you really think the Israelis would risk the reaction if they
    randomly invaded hospitals for no good reason?

    Only *Hamas* does that. As you know full well.


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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Thu Nov 16 20:06:07 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y, uk.legal

    On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:52:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:



    "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"...

    ...From Hamas. That's what Israelis are trying to do. Why not support
    them you lying spamming snivelling antisemitic cunt?

    Do you really think the Israelis would risk the reaction if they
    randomly invaded hospitals for no good reason?

    Only *Hamas* does that. As you know full well.


    khazars are not Semites. You again have shown up your bastard "race"
    origins.
    Yoour family will get it if the UK loses it oil and trade.
    Nuking all of e europe and tel aviv is the first step.
    Then gas chambers for the shit eating khazar boot lickers.
    Your commit genocide, so karma will be so strong.

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  • From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Fri Nov 17 16:21:33 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y

    On 2023-11-15, NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote:
    Gaza's largest medical complex, Al-Shifa Hospital, fell under the
    control of the Israeli army on 15 November following an overnight raid
    that saw dozens of troops storm the hospital based on Israeli and US intelligence that alleged the complex houses a “Hamas command center.”
    [...]

    You complain a lot about the Zionist regime. Perhaps you are right to a
    degree, but what about Hamas launching a very large amount of rockets at
    random into Israeli civilian neighborhoods, with the obvious goal to
    kill civilians ? Why are Hamas suddenly supposed to be loving people
    worthy of support ?

    Hamas started the whole thing by attacking also a festival, which is a
    typical activity loved by western people. Why are western people such as
    in the U.S.A.-E.U. suddenly so seemingly enamored with people who at
    random mass murdered people at a festival. If "from the river to the
    sea, Palestine will be free" is their slogan, and it starts with a large
    amount of random rockets at Israeli neighborhoods, it seems clear that
    the goal is a driving out of the Jewish people from those lands, and to resettle them with Palestinians. In other words: an ethnic cleansing,
    targeting civilian population.

    If the Zionist rebel regime (rebels against the Torah) is being blamed
    of just this, then it makes sense to at least also blame Hamas for the
    same, and being the ones who started it.

    *

    Meanwhile, in "the real world", beyond this keyhole topic
    Israel / Palestine ... the National Debt of the Nations of the world
    keeps getting worse, money printing seems to be accellerating, the
    crisis is getting worse and worse. Et voila! The whole world can be told
    to look at two postage stamps trying to kill each other, and they march
    in their hundreds of thousands with their opinions on the matter.

    Why didn't they march in 2008 to demand the banks will be taken down,
    and the National Debt would be nullified ? I cannot conclude other, than
    that they are fools. It is this debt which drives the push for a World
    War - although that doesn't mean the wars also have their own logic and background. At some level, the wars might have happened anyway.

    However, the financial system destabilizing and the populations likely
    becoming angry about that to the point of bloody Revolution in the western world (USA included), seems to drive the push for more violence in the
    world. This began in 2001 with "9/11", 2008 was the political center
    piece, 2014 the Kiev Obama coup started World War 3 Rethoric (because
    it has to villify Russia, that is the only way to have this big war),
    Corona was likely a part of it also (stress testing of a Tyrannical
    regime, and helpful to centralize the economy); and now this Corona
    thing has faded but the economic/financial crisis of course has not, we
    now have this "unexpected" (cough cough) war in Israel / Gaza, with the
    USA seemingly doing whatever they can to make it a larger conflict in
    the Middle East, throwing bombs in the direction of Iran, claiming that
    they do it because they want peace. Of course, USA bombs always mean
    peace, did you know ? Just accept the blood and the dying, that's just "collateral damage".

    It is going to get worse and worse, because the underlying cause is not
    dealt with, and that cause is debt. It sounds crazy, but if you know
    your history, you know that it is an accepted fact of history that World
    War 2 was caused by debt (Versaille treaty, Reparations, hyperinflation,
    and then the Nazis exploited all that politically, being funded by the Plutocracy to do that job for them). This is not just ordinary debt.
    This is a monstrously large Empire shaking amount of debt, with the debt certificates being held all over the place, coupled with a obstinate
    refusal by the ruling class to deal with all this like adults. Of course
    you can nullify this debt. A man would do it. It might be a few years of crisis, but probably not more than that; maybe a resession and some
    trouble, that's it. No no they can't do it. They can't take a "hair cut"
    (rich people pitching in some money, taking some losses). Rather than
    cave in and be normal for a change, they have to step it up another
    notch, create global war and then try to exploit that crisis for their
    global tyranny.

    Are they that crazy ? ... and much worse than that, yes. History shows
    us that these people are wicked and sick to the core, and they will
    always keep pushing for more power, until they are stopped.

    *

    If you are Jewish, I think you should ready yourself for the Redemption.
    If it is what I think it might be, although I coud be wrong, I recommend
    doing things like this, you have to have qualities like the following.

    - You must be a caring person, who wants to be good and do good to other
    people. Being a child of Abraham, if you want to put it that way.

    - You are willing to hear the voice of the downtrodden, the poor, those
    in misery.

    - You are willing to hear the voice of people you don't necessarily agree
    with, to at least understand them, to heir their side of the story,
    and all that without getting angry. Able to have a reasonable talk
    with someone you don't agree with, a friendly conversation. Having a
    flashing fiery temper is probably not a good thing.

    - Join or continue with a Minyan, to do what Minyans do in Judaism. This
    also to work no social skills, if needed. Can the Minyan be quiet
    enough to listen to one of them, can they be of one mind, etc.

    - Don't be greedy, but generous. It goes without saying that one should
    be honest, and not guilty of even small crimes of thievery. All
    thievery has to go. All tricks, if any, have to go.

    - Brave like Moshe Rabbeinu, who was raised at the Egyptian court and so
    that was presumably his whole life. He knew these people, he was
    brought up with them like one of them (right?). The man saw an
    injustice, and seems to right away have killed the two guards, putting
    himself at odds with *everyone*. It seems to be even braver than
    Abraham when he destroyed the idols.

    Do you stand against the prosbul, when the entire Yeshiva points the
    finger at you and says "traitor!", but you know you are right and you
    stick with the truth no matter what ? This isn't even close to what
    Moshe Rabbeinu did, who even had to endure murder attempts by his own
    people, let alone the Egyptian Empire (!). Such a man, this Moshe
    Rabbeinu ... wow.

    So ... it basically boils down to skills in smooth social interactions,
    being a good moral honest person (to other good people of course, not
    toward the enemy, to the enemy you lie, steal, plunder and if necessary
    kill, obviously), and all this has to be coupled with a minimum of
    bravery. You have to stand with the good, and bravely so, against all
    odds, for the principle and unto death.

    If you have that, you are *it*. Who cares for Army skills, or if you can
    make a fantastic wooden table. Certainly, that's nice also, but I think
    the key is in what was listed above.

    Things you can do to make yourself better in these areas could be ...
    - Charity (to be good and generous and not greedy or thieving).

    - Figure out a way that it will scare you to be good in that way, and
    then do it anyway. If you don't dare yet, tone it down until you do
    dare, and take it from there. There are so many ways to do this, just
    be creative. Perhaps for one it is to have a friendly chat with a
    beggar on the street. If you feel that is both good but it scares you,
    you could try that. If you feel you are very observant of the Torah,
    so that you deserve or should be wearing TzitTzit, but you didn't
    dare, then do it. Maybe you don't dare to refuse wine but you think
    you really should, then do that. Perhaps you want to take a stand
    against the prosbul, then stand up in class and do your best ;-).
    (Lol, of course I had to add my favorite topic here somewhere; well,
    land distribution is even more of a favorite of mine, but okay.)

    - Try to have a talk which you know will potentially make you angry, and
    try to control your anger anyway.

    Why I think this is what matters, I could explain it to you, just ask.
    Do you dare ? ;-) lol

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 21 16:06:02 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y

    On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 1:08:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Ejercito
    wrote:
    Peeler wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 16:50:11 +0000, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making a total ass of herself as "spamming/forging jew paedophile BARRY 'jewface' ZACHARY SHEIN", farted again:



    jews -------------------------------------------> The Mediterranean

    YOU->loony bin (shortest way)

    After that is Hell!


    Michael

    Only superstitious assholes believe in that nonsense. That consists of
    jew lovers and those like you and Chung who have brains equal to that
    of a chimpanzee. Ask your fairy "doctor", even he knows that is true.

    https://postimg.cc/GBdK8q3g

    A righteous coon

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