It is often said about the Redemption that it depends on Israel deserving
it or not. For example the current Jewish (world) generation is determined
by many Rabbis to be one of the worst in history, and Israel currently
does not *deserve* a Redemption. However, it usually continues, after
the coming punishments, this same generation could become *worthy*
of the Redemption and will then indeed be Redeemed. You can also read
that the generation before 'moshiach' would "have the face of a dog"
(that is not a good thing, in case you where wondering lol).

"Deserving" is something which sounds like it is a reward for an accomplishment. "You deserve a high grade on your exam, because you made
almost no mistakes." "You deserve the wages of today, because you put in
a fair amount of work." "You deserve this job, because nobody else has
done so much for it, and you are the most capable we can find." "You
deserve this chocolate bar, because you helped your mother carrying the groceries, and then you went back to the shop becaues she forgot her
hat."

"Deserving a reward", and the reward is often something which someone is
going to enjoy. Eating a chocolate bar is not difficult (I am someone
for whom it is particularly easy to eat a chocolate bar, I guess it is
one of my skills ;-).

There is however a related word or principle, which is not "deserve
something" but "is capable of something". Compare: "You deserve a chance
to ... relate a 'parasha' (part of the Torah I guess) to the community,
because ... you are capable of doing it. Someone deserves to be the
architect for a new city hall, because he is capable of it, or the most
capable of all possible people who might qualify.

It seems to me that this is probably a deeper problem with the
redemption of Israel; it is not particularly about deserving it or not,
as if the Redemption is as easy as eating a chocolate bar or accepting
some kind of reward. It might be more about being capable of doing it
and making it a success in the long term.

For example if you compare the giving of the Torah by Moshe Rabbeinu, if
this was simply a reward for a good effort and henceforth easy to do,
the world would look different today. The Jewish people would have kept themselves to the Torah, and the entire world would be different,
potentially it would be a paradise now. Instead of this, and despite
Hashem declaring that the Jewish people are capable of doing this law,
they still failed it in many respects, and even lost their land due to
their corruption and crime.

You could say there was a challenge within the reward. It was still
something to be achieved. It was the change to do something great because
you may be capable of it, but you still had to do it. Notice how the Torah
was given after centuries of servitude and eventual abuse in Egypt, as
well as the challenges in the desert. The people where already selected
and put through a lot, which will have affected them. It may have made
them more interested in peace, justice and fairness than they otherwise
might have been. People who have nothing have a lot to gain if Justice
and fairness where to be initiated for all.

It seems to me that this is also the likely case with the final
Redemption, or at least how I see it. The Jewish people may have the
opposite view: that it will be easy like eating a chocolate bar. Their
King will pop up, fix all their problems, destroy Amalek, fight the
entire world on his own, and all they are expected to do is to dance and
be happy afterwards. That is the thinking of getting a reward which is
easy to consume.

While there may be elements of this thinking coming true also, and for
some it might be completely so because they are easily capable of any
demands the Redemption might have upon them, it seems to me that a
people who is not even capable of overturning the prosbul (a
preposterous lie made up by Hillel the Elder), then you have a serious
problem with honesty, intelligence, morality, etc. The question is then
not so much if Israel "deserves" a Redemption like it is a candy bar,
but is Israel *capable* of the Redemption. Can they meet it's challenge.

This turns things around a little bit, because if the Redemption is a
reward and you just needed to earn it, then it is like there is a Judge
over you who can also cheat you out of it. The Judge (HKB'H) could say
in theory: I promise you this reward if you do so and so, but then not
actually deliver. When you think about it in terms of not "deserve" but "capable", things look quite different. Then the Judge is constantly
hoping and trying to make his people capable of the Redemption, and
would initiate it the moment they could handle it. If the Redemption
then does not come, not even when it should have, the problem is with
Israel itself.

If the Redemption also represents a challenge, it is like putting a
child up a dangerous mountain, or someone without the skill to do it.
It could become irresponsible to try it, to suggest it. They would first
have to learn more, and can only be allowed up the mountain if they have
proven themselves in smaller tests.

You could say that overturning the prosbul again, is such a test.
If a people lack so much honesty, brain and morality to do even
something this small, just forget about anything else. Go to war and
wipe yourselves out, rage wild like an animal; do whatever you want, go
nuts or become a hermit in a cave. You can not be allowed up that
mountain, you would only make a mess there too.

Another view on it is like so: let's say everyone wants to get up a
mountain, but it already starts with a steep challenge over a big rock.
So long as you cannot get over that rock, you are not going to get
anywhere near the top of that mountain. A smaller test is then part of
the route itself. If you cannot have the honesty to overturn the prosbul
and do Teshuvah (this regards those who even care about the Torah), you
can forget about anything else as well. You are not capable, you lack intelligence, morality and honesty.

If you where to cheat yourself over the first rock, you would likely
later have a similar challenge on the way up, but by then you will fall
to your death because the area is so much more dangerous.

You can see this happening even in the escape from Egypt, where miracles
where allowed to get Israel to have confidence (I suppose, and/or other reasons). At some point the Israelites want to kill Moshe Rabbeinu.
Let's say that they had killed him. Then what would have happened ? It
is possible that this would be the end of it, and your God might have
thought: fine, they killed the one person who could save them, then they
chose death, perhaps they will learn from it. That could have been the
end. Had they however already killed Moshe Rabbeinu within Egypt, they
would not have been in the desert but in Egypt, and might have survived
that way.

During a Redemption you have a similar thing, because it would be a new
Nation, a strong reforming of the Nation. Likely an entire new power
structure, hopefully the return of the right to land for all, etc. Right
now if you reject that, at least you have the Zionist Rebel State or the
USA or other countries where you live, which are already organized.
If you where half way through the Redemption but you started to mess it
up because of a lack of intelligence, honesty and morality, then the
whole thing might collapse into chaos, and then what ? Would your
enemies take the opportunity to attack, for example ?

If you cannot meet a simple challenge like stopping whith the prosbul when
it is safe and easy to do so without consequences even possible almost,
little can go wrong with it, then how are you going to accept a greater
truth, requiring greater intelligence, morality and honesty, at a moment
when all depends on you succeeding or you could fall to your deaths ?

You see the point. Israel does not seem *capable* of the Redemption, and whether or not she "deserves" it, might not be the more important issue.
Well, it makes sense to me at least ;-). (I know I could have written
this in a few sentences, but it seems people don't think at all so I
tend to make it longer and longer to simplify it ...).

You then get to quite a different viewpoint upon the Redemption, because
it isn't like "when do we give this chocolate bar, maybe we should be
nice to them and let them have it already, for example for all their
past suffering" but it really becomes something like "Watch out not to
sart the Redemption too soon, because they will hurt themselves with it
even worse than they already are". To not give them the Redemption
becomes an act of mercy and care.

Perhaps you should keep this in mind, as you are being wiped out in the
second holocaust, 95% of you might die in it in the coming years /
decade or who knowns. Perhaps isn't so much that you didn't get the
cookie which you where promised and now you are dying because of a meany
Judge upon you, but rather you are protected from doing the Redemption
because you are not capable of it, and this massive death rate you would
be suffering soon (if you continue this way, which it certainly seems
that you are planning to keep going exactly as you where) is there to
finally get you capable of doing the Redemption by putting you through tremendous challenges, so that you can at least finally save yourselves
and make the Redemption a success, because beyond a 95% death rate
second holocaust, there are horrors and hells and death rates which are
even worse if this world doesn't "get their act together", and that
world includes Israel and they would suffer the same if they do not "get
their act together" either (high technological Dystopian Tyranny and
warfare on a level we have never seen before, etc).

You had been warned, and shown a way out, well ahead of time. You could
have saved yourself all of it. This is your choices what is going to
happen, the consequences of your choices. Not the choices of heaven or
anyone else. Once you make your choices, there will be made useful
choices also by heaven, in order to still get you to live. Sometimes you
might not understand these choices immediately ("Why did God kill us
all?"), but they are for the benefit of the good.

Because of the extreme violence which might soon be happening on all
Jewish people world wide, as well as the non Jewish people, this might
be a good time to really let it sink in, so that you do not fall into
the same trap as people fell into who survived the Nazi holocaust, when
they blamed their God for everything. Your God is looking out for you in
every possible way, but you don't want to be saved and happy by doing
what you need to do, and understanding what you need to understand. It
is a world of reward and punishment, on every level it seems to be so.
In that sense, the world teaches life. You will just have to embrace
that fact, and accept that if things are going wrong it is likely a
mistake made by ourselves, or some challenge we are expected to conquer
but did not do so correctly yet. You can also not blame the gentiles for everything. Your God has promised you that this is not going to be an
issue if you do things correctly. If you do not, the gentiles will be
used to punish you. That seems to be the Torah.

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