Israel does not need to be Redeemed, they already have the Torah. The
fact that they ruined their Nation to a large extend, the fact that they
ignore their Torah and often suffer terribly because of it, that is all
their own choice. They have the choice to Redeem themselves, no problem.
If they don't want to, that's fine, the consequences are for them. They
do not need any more help.

It is different for 'the Nations' (in my view), also because of the
terrible lying and deceiving by the ruling classes of the world, or at
least in the European Nations, but many more of course (where I'm from).

You could also argue it like so: the Jewish people are a religious
people, not so much a logical or thinking people. Their problem is
idolatry, to worship the wrong authority and be confused by miracles,
tricks, lies, and so on. You could say, Hashem fixed it for them, by
showing them what a real God would be all about. They have their
miracles, they have their revelations, they have their Prophets. They
know what to do.

Many Nations however where not part of those miracles, where not present
at Sinai, and even if they heard about it: why should they believe it,
why would they understand it, why should they even care ? There have
been many lies in the world, many claims made of miracles or godly
descend or Divine intervention, only to result in the most brutal wars,
Tyranny and last but not least ... never ending taxation schemes. In a
sense, at least some Nations, the virtue is logic, and the problem is
possibly less about idolatry "The wrong God, the wrong authority, the
wrong miracles, the wrong morality", but more about the wrong logic, the
wrong thinking, the wrong conclusions, the wrong insight, the wrong understanding, confusing cause and effect, shallowness of understanding,
etc.

"The Nations" have, in a sense: nothing. How do they fight and defeat
their criminals, who confuse them day & night using the money they stole
from their own people, in ways these people do not seem to comprehend ?
The "logic" of the situation would be, that they "figure it out", and
"make sense", get it done and show a minimum of interest in how their
Nation is organized. So far they have not done it. At this point we have
a mixed economy between Capitalism (raw Capitalism is hell on Earth),
and forms of Communism (which in it's Stalinist form certainly is no
lesser evil). Together it is sort of a temporary fix, but you see how it
is now breaking out into Tyranny anyway, world war, etc.

While Israel could have given the example, and this could have saved the
world, they didn't. Hence, the "Nations" are now also short on examples.
They chose to kill the native Indians of America, rather than learn from
them, and thus they also cut themselves off from that wisdom.

Anyway, the way I see it at least: the other Nations are in need of a Redemption, not so Israel. Israel is already redeemed, through Moshe
Rabbeinu and the Torah (the prophets, the Tanach, after which the
corruption became so bad things become untrusted). Nevertheless, they
can easily go back and clean up the corruption, because they have the 5
books of Moshe seemingly in a pure form. There is no problem for Israel.
The other Nations however, particularly when technologically advanced,
in this world, they do not seem to have a functioning ideology, and it
seems if you don't make one up, they never will get to it. They don't
care enough I guess, and their academia is also too corrupt and bribed.
To the degree Academia i still honest, the honest ones cannot get
through the thick blanket of control which money has bought the immoral
ruling class. The "Nations" don't have a fix, don't have a standard like
the Torah, and have no reason to put trust in the Torah because they
wheren't there for the miracles, they where not there to see your God.

Hence the way I see it, is that the Redemption is actually not for you,
not for Israel, but for the rest of the world. If you happen to Redeem
yourself with it anyway, so much the better, but it isn't for you, you
are not the real target of it. You have the fix. You choose not to apply
it, you choose to die instead, ok fine, have it your way, go die and go
extinct if that is your wish. No reason to redo what has been done
already. The other Nations however, I feel they deserve help, because of
the horrifyingly effective skills of the criminals who make propaganda
and take advantage of the stupidity of their own people, even when these
people are not as evil as to deserve (I think) the hell these criminals
are creating for us all: global nuclear world war, high technological
Dystopian Tyranny, global genocide, using disasters in nature as a
weapon and on and on it goes with these evil people in the top. The evil
is very bad and must be stopped. The way to do it is to organized good
people properly, unite all good people. Good people need to stop being
just half good and half stupid. Fully good people need to unite and
become effective, rather allow themselves to be Divided & Conquered.

The goal is to get through to the Nations. I understand that you think:
get lost with these low information density nuisance postings, but once
the hell of what's coming has happened, maybe you will rethink that
thought, because you don't have a plan (do you ? share please), I so
happen to do propose one (which took a ton of work), and every chance
this plan can get done has to be taken, because the consequences of
success could be great. I guess, this is why you don't see me walking
around in Jewish clothes or performing Jewish 'minhag' or whatever. The
goal is the Nations, they need to sort of get their "act together" and
warm up to things like Peace & Justice. Walking around like a monk is
not going to help (my opinion, in fact I am against monks and monestaris anyway; but I digress). Understand ? That's why it is how it is, what I
am proposing to you, and you can think about it logically and learn to comprehend.

It is the side of the doubt, which has lead to understanding, rather
than the side of belief, which has lead to obedience to the truth. Both
become united, and it hopefully will be an unbreakable foundation for
humanity, and a ultimately forever defeat of the evil ones and the inner
evil. This is less fanastical than you might think, because 1+1=2 seems trivial, but it can also be called a forever truth, and finding it a
forever victory over confusion, so long as it is not forgotten, which
will probably not be soon or ever.

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