• Jewish God seems to bring ultimate punishment & reward in one

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 16:36:13 2024
    It seems the Jewish God will bring to His people the ultimate punishment
    and consequence for their mistakes and law breaking, and at the same
    time holds out their ultimate security, freedom and happiness.

    It is like the Jewish people have been kept in a stasis, on ice as it
    where, for the length of the exile. The Jewish Nation was so corrupt,
    that with their at least partially corrupt core of Rabbinical Judaism it
    was going to go straight down into nothingness. The corrupt would be using
    the central power, the natural loyalty people have to it, that is the 2nd Temple and its eventually corrupt cliques, to degrade the entire Nation
    to the point that culture could have collapsed and turned into dust.

    The central core of power is extremely powerful. They can levy taxation
    and use money as a weapon, they have the official authority, they can
    use the Courts of Justice against their enemies and good people who
    oppose them, they can use their command over the army or other agents
    who use force (modern equivalents would be army and police). You see in
    the modern Zionist State, how strong this control is. The Rabbis earlier
    where opposed to the Zionist State, but over time they seem to have
    caved in. It is now so far, that Rabbis generally side with people
    dancing before Bhudda statues in Israel (a death penalty in the Torah),
    even when they do it precisely on the holyday which celebrates the
    giving of the Torah, and do it with a slogan which makes it clear they
    are trying to overthrow the Torah (it seems). Dancing in front of a huge
    far eastern idol (in its typical form, worshiped as an idol by millions
    and millions and millions of people in the far east), right on the day
    of 'happiness of the Torah', with a slogan about 'freedom' and in the
    land of Israel ... can it get more offensive ? (Yes: homos*xuality
    displais and related madness, and all of it has a death penalty in the
    Torah).

    This is how extreme the power of corruption of a Government is. Had
    there not been the Zionist State, but Jewish communities where exiled
    all over the world, it would perhaps be more likely that many of these communities would have taken offense at the festival. They would not be
    so connected to it, through the Zionist rebel State its control and
    presence over the land of Israel and the many Jewish people who casually
    live there. If this had happened 100 years ago, it would surprise me if
    almost any Rabbi or Jewish community would relate at all to these people
    at the Nova festival, even if they where of Jewish descent or lived in
    that area. They wouldn't even be seen as Jewish, but as total heretics
    and traitors, enemies of the people. Right ? Even the idolatrous Nations
    of Europe, many where still so strict, they would unlikely have sided
    with people behaving this wildly and crazy. It isn't until America
    happens, that a total lack of discipline and crazy behavior starts to be something. Maybe it is all an American revolution against civilization,
    in some way.

    The point is: the central core of the Zionist State has a disrupting
    and corrupting influence over the Jewish people. The point is: it was
    probably no different about 2 thousand years ago. What will happen in
    the next generation in the Zionist Rebel State, what happens after the
    next 3 generations, the next 10 ? Like it seems to go in the USA, will
    they completely become like 'Sodom & Gemorrah', with not only bad family
    values (I try to avoid being explicit), but even it was reported in the
    USA that it has become a crime to feed homeless people (!). Some source
    said (I forgot which sorry), that it was forbidden in Soddom/Gemorrah to perform acts of kindness, on punishment of death.

    https://www.lowincome.org/2016/08/more-than-70-cities-illegal-feed-homeless.html

    We are getting there in the USA: reversed and absurd 'family values',
    every law in the Torah gets broken openly and people get praised for it
    (even supposedly Jewish people who are in the USA praise these people, I
    saw it on the Reddit.com forum), and besides all the Tyranny (Julian
    Assange), their criminal wars (which include bringing the Nazis to power
    in Europe, twice now, once in Germany for World War 2, and now in
    Ukraine for World War 3 (oh, you didn't know ?! funny ...)), they are
    now criminalizing acts of kindness. Criminalizing acts of kindness !
    Because they are also ruled by criminals, who use the "core of power"
    (so to say, basically the Government, but also the mass media which is
    the real Government as in 'what people listen to'), the corruption,
    Tyranny and crazy immorality in the USA is worsening at a fast pace.
    It has a lot to do also with the centralization of economic power, such
    as control over land in very few hands, the power to print money is in
    private hands (!!!), etc. These criminals want to keep their people off balance, entertained and under control, first by what they like (the
    trap), and then by what they don't like (the gloves come off and it is
    death squads and torture all the way unto they are wiped out or
    overthrown). Although it is possible to overthrew a regime like this, it
    should already have happened. Instead the people accepted it. Probably
    the people who eventually do not want to live in a vicious Soddom &
    Gemorrah type Tyranny run by criminals, will leave, because they could
    not get the hands together for an overthrow and restoration of morality, justice, peace, truth, etc.

    This was probably the trajectory the Jewish nation was also on, even if
    you think it was well at the beginning of something this bad, at the end
    of the 2nd Temple Period, when they where cut off from these natural
    (economic) consequences. Israel had earlier already shown how bad the corruption could get, with the various Kingdoms who also completely
    forgot about the law of Moshe Rabbeinu.

    The idea becomes: Israel would be a dead Nation in N generations if left
    to their own devices, or they could be dispersed before it got too bad,
    and then in the dispersion they would be challenged to hang on to what
    they still had. Those who could not, would just melt away in the Nation
    they happened to be. Also it becomes possible for specific parts of the
    Jewish people, who loose their way, to be annihilated (!), without
    touching many other communities who where not in that area and may have remained untouched by such a new spur of corruption.

    To put it in an analogy ... the ox was slaughtered and put on ice. Every
    year they could eat from it, until the final Redemption happens (the rectification of the entire world, so that humanity can live without
    destroying themselves (is how I see it)). So long as the ox was on ice, symbolizing morality, discipline, perhaps even the ocasional Revolution,
    things where fine. However, the ox was taken out of the freezer, or say
    the freezer broke. The big central freezer broke. It would be a matter
    of days or a week, and the meat would have been rotten completely. You
    could never eat it anymore. This symbolizes the central core of power corrupting and even changing, or outlawing and destroying, the Torah and
    all morality, etc. Finding the Torah would be like finding an ancient inscription in a stone, and no matter how nice it sounds, there just
    aren't any people alive who are taking the text serious or have any
    interest in doing what it says.

    Instead of letting everything go bad in a hurry, and everything being
    rotten long before, perhaps thousands of years before, the final
    Redemption happens, the ox which hsa already begun to spoil, is quickly
    cut up in small pieces and put in freezers and fridges all around in
    people's homes, businesses and wherever. They all get a small piece to
    carry and hopefully they would keep it good. The central cliques who on
    purpose took the freezer off the electricity to that the ox would rot
    and they would get all the money and power, is then destroyed, so that
    they do not have the power anymore to go house to house and pull the
    pieces of ox (call it a red heifer if you will, it is a bit weird to
    make the Torah be the same as an ox, lol ;-) out of the fridge, put it
    on a big pile and burn it. Some Jews are now suddenly in many countries,
    some far away. There is no central core of corruption who has that
    power.

    Then now nearer the end of the exile and the closing in of the
    Redemption (hopefully), many Jews have started to return to the land of
    Israel, and some of them still had a part of the original "red heifer"
    with them, a piece of the Torah (that they where doing), even the entire
    Torah in full (in writing). Now it is all coming back together in
    Israel, and you have this central power again. This central power is now
    again corrupting Israel at a fast pace.

    The logic of the situation becomes; the corruption which Israel is
    allowing within itself, would have resulted much sooner in dissolution
    and the worst. They where put on ice because of the long exile, but near
    the end of that wait they are allowed to get back under their original
    corrupt Government, and they continue their downward spiral at the speed
    with which such things go. Faster corruption than during the exile.

    Then, when they finally meet their end as a Nation, or seemingly so
    beacuse of the uncontrollable corruption and nobody does anything, they
    get punished so harshly by that fact, that if the final Redemption is
    now at the door, if the final Redemption at this point rings the door
    and they go see who it is, they will save themselves by it.

    Rather than be annihilated by their own corruption and just become
    forgotten, which could have happened thousands of years ago already, at
    the moment they face their fate as a Nation which became corrupt and
    lost its way, the timing is perfect - a miracle from heaven I guess -
    and they are caught by their God, because it is the final Redemption.

    We also see the ramping up of the punishments for Israel in these times.
    The Jewish Nation was punished severely by the Nazis. It is not clear to
    me if it has ever been this extreme before. These would be the
    consequences of Jewish corruption (which does not mean the Nazis where
    right, they are still criminals). They refused to listen, and so the
    next round of punishment is looking to become exceedingly extreme: 7
    times worse than the Nazis. At 7 times a third lost to death, 95% of the
    people is dead. I think it is fair to say that with such a genocide
    happening, most people would start to say that this people has been
    wiped out almost entirely, and may soon go extinct. You see how the
    Americans drove the Native Americans into extinction, and are still
    doing it. They have zero regrets when they drive entire Nations into
    their permanent forever death. I guess they even revel in it.

    If Israel had not been dispersed, exiled, the argument becomes that this
    should have all happened already maybe in the 3rd century, or who knows
    when. Because Israel is brought to the brink of the Redemption, more or
    less in one piece, they can still recognize themselves and their job on
    Earth, they certainly still have the Torah in written form and
    everything, they can step into the Redemption as a Nation, even though
    they have just been annihilated and seem to be destroyed once and for
    all.

    Israel rises out of the ashes, chooses morality, truth, justice and
    peace, returns to the words of their God, and the power of their return
    is so great, they pull the entire world with them to safety. To the
    safety of a moral, good and friendly existence.

    Hence I guess we could say that is is a miracle, that the Jewish Nation
    was exiled so they could preserve themselves enough, and when the Jewish
    Nation started to come out of the exile. They started to come out against
    the rules of Judaism and quite possibly merely added additional danger
    and death in the end. Nevertheless we seem to be at the brink of the Redemption, and Israel can undergo the "natural annihilation" of their Nation thanks to its own corruptions, but instead of afterwards becoming non
    existing and just fading into nothingness, it would be time for the
    Redemption of the entire world (or it's complete destruction I guess) at
    the same time. The greatest pain and punishment for Israel, comes at the
    same moment as potentially the greatest chance to finally get things
    right, perhaps also by humanity finally having to admit that the
    destruction they are causing on Earth is becoming too much and a grave
    threat to their own survival.

    You could ask: why didn't this happen in the 11th century (Common Era) ?
    Why not the 17th century ? How about the 4th century ? It happens right
    now, around the time humanity starts building nukes and during an
    unprecedented rise in technology, which is all being used for war and
    Tyranny. The perfect timing for Israel to be destroyed, but stand up
    again. Arguably it was not time for the 'final Redemption' than until
    humanity had created this extremely dangerous technology. I also think
    it is noteworthy that if the Redemption is to explain the Torah, how
    things work, then this may also be a danger because if there is no
    Redemption to make a force out of that good, the side of evil might use
    the knowledge to their advantage ?

    Why would the final Redemption happen at the brink, where humanity starts
    to ruin themselves and may create a permanent hell world. Perhaps because
    it is the last chance to get it right, and also the best chance because
    the suffering will be the greatest thanks to the abuse of the greatest
    ever technologies. Are these technologies necessary to even make the
    Redemption happen ?

    In any case, this is how I at least see things going. The Zionist Rebel
    State is the continuation of the corrupt cliques at the 2nd Temple, who
    are now unleashed again to corrupt their own people. The exile saved
    Israel for all these thousands of years, from this corrupting influence.
    Israel is thawed out, just in time to have their natural punishment of destroying themselves thanks to their own corruption to coincide with a
    general destruction of humanity on a level which may be magnitudes above
    what ever happened, and may seriously endanger even the survival of
    humanity (How about we fire all the nukes ? Nobody really knows how bad
    it will be I guess, and then we have worse to come because technology
    doesn't stop developing.) Humanity: down. Israel: down. Down like never
    before, the whole world crying in pain.

    That will do something. That kind of pain always was a motivation to
    become moral, at least for some, perhaps many. Without Israel, humanity
    would face this moment all alone, with the many crazed and fractured
    ideologies it has, religions which make no sense, mindless people
    everywhere. How will that end ? It looks like a worse prospect. Now at
    least the 'first born' to Justice and Peace Nation of Israel is there,
    even in a destroyed form in the end. Destroyed but still existing, and
    also more eager than ever to get things right.

    (Sorry to belabor the point 10 times over.)
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