As the previous posting seemed to show, there seems to be at least a
loose correlation between the idea that by fraction of the population
killed, the Nazi holocaust could have been 7 times worse than the amount
killed in the first world war, using the computation:
(fraction survives)⁷ × population. While there is no strong logic to it
that this is in any way accurate, since there are many other ways in
which a people can suffer besides being killed, it seemed interesting
that if this trend continues, somewhere under one million would survive
a next round of punishment.
The obvious question then becomes: what about the next step back into
the past, and how far can this logic hold up anyway. If we use ¹/₃ as
the fraction for the Nazi holocaust, the fractions come out like so:
Projected (WW3) (²/₃)⁷ = 5.9% survives, 94% dies.
Fact point (WW2) (²/₃)¹ = 66% survives, 33% dies.
Projected (WW1) ⁷√(²/₃) = 94.4% survives, 5.6% dies.
Projected (?) ⁴⁹√(²/₃) = 99.2% survives, 0.82% dies.
The history of pogroms seems to say that there was a bad massacre of the
Jewish people, in 1648 ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#Selected_list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmelnytsky_Uprising#Jews
The casualty figures seem to vary wildly. The article claims the
casualties where first estimated to be at least 100 000, with the upper estimate 500 000. The lowest modern estimate is apparently 6,000 to
14,000 casualties, with an Israeli demographer research project concluding
that it could have been between 18,000 to 20,000 casualties. Then there
was a following casualty event, the Russo Polish war, with another
20,000 to 30,000 casualties (year 1654-1667).
For a population number of the Jewish global population, we get
something like ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jewish_population#Modern_era
Middle Ages
As regards the number of Jews in the Middle Ages, Benjamin of Tudela,
about 1170, enumerates altogether 1,049,565; but of these 100,000 are
attributed to Persia and India, 100,000 to Arabia, and 300,000 to an
undecipherable "Thanaim", which were likely mere guesses with regard
to the Eastern Jews, with whom he did not personally encounter. There
were at that time probably not many more than 500,000 in the countries
he visited, and probably not more than 750,000 altogether.
(…)
Again following Jacobs,[2] Jacques Basnage at the beginning of the
18th century estimated the total number of European Jews at 1,360,000,
but according to a census at the First Partition of Poland in 1772,
the Jews of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth numbered 308,500. As
these formed the larger part of the European Jews, it is doubtful
whether the total number was more than 400,000 at the middle of
the 18th century; and, counting those in the lands of Islam, the
entire number in the world at that time could not have been much
more than 1,000,000.
End quote.
If we assume about 1 Million Jewish people, on the 7 fold casualties per
round of punishment rule, starting with the Nazi holocaust being one
third, two rounds back comes out as:
Projected (?) ⁴⁹√(²/₃) = 99.2% survives, 0.82% dies.
0.82% × 1,000,000 = 8,240 casualties
This seems to be quite lacking to the apparently given casualties for
the pogrom event, although it is not an entire order of magnitude off
(meaning, 10 or more times off the mark). If we used the highest given
number for Jewish population, and ignore that this was not an estimate
about the same time as the massacre, but centuries off and quite a
dubious estimate also:
0.82% × 1,360,000 = 11,207 casualties projected under the 7 fold rule,
as above hypothesized (11 thousand 2 hundred and 7). This is however
within the lowest given numbers for the massacre, which was 6,000 to
14,000 casualties.
Personally, I am quite doubtful about the accuracy of all these numbers. Nevertheless, there seems to be a theoretical chance that there is some accuracy to it, even back in time to the 2nd degree, unless the Jewish population was signicantly smaller than given here, or the casualties
where significantly higher.
We ignored the subsequent deaths in the Russo-Polish war however.
Together you get a minimum amount of deaths of 6,000 to 14,000 which is
already the lowest estimate, plus 20,000 for the Russo Polish war, and
you quickly seem to reach a number of 50,000 total, or more. At these
lower estimates for the pogrom, the Russo Polish war comes out as worse,
and it is about double that of the projected amount of deaths for this
rule.
It seems likely that going back further in time, the amount of
casualties projected by this rule would eventually become zero. It is interesting on the other hand, that in the punishment section of the
Torah, different kinds of punishments are being given. It certainly is
not merely about suffering loss of life in large numbers. Nevertheless,
the loss of life further back is going to probably go up dramatically
when we reach the serious wars of the Jewish people against Rome.
Therefore this rule is probably not going to hold up so easily, even if
you wanted to make it fit the apparently quite uncertain numbers.
Could we still say that there may be an effect of this nature, which
somehow correlates to the facts ? Perhaps to a degree, because 50,000
people lost in the above mentioned pogrom and wars is substantially less
than what could be half a million lost in World war 1, which again is substantially less than the 6 million lost to world war 2 (if we assume
the modern numbers for above mentioned pogrom and war are accurate and
the earlier much higher estimates are not accurate). There does seem to
be a crescendo, which in the broadest sense kindof follows a 7 fold
rule, maybe.
I also think that we cannot know the exact answer (right now), because
it is not humanly possible to know the answer. We cannot quantify how
bad the suffering is if an entire village gets massacred within a day,
compared to the same amount of families only loosing their husbands and
fathers to a war. Is the latter worse ? How can we quantify it. We do
not know. How does the loss of a village by mass murder, compare to the
Jewish people being driven out from their homeland ? I do not know how
to quantify and compare these various modes of suffering. I can imagine
that it is worse for a family to loose their children to murder, than it
is to all be killed, but what do I know ? How about: nothing.
Conclusion: the Torah warned it would punish the Jewish people, 7 times
worse in every round. The above is an attempt to see if this is perhaps happening, despite the great gaps in knowledge. It does seem to be the
case that, in a broad sense and with large error margins, a crescendo of casualties may be going on since World War 1, and possibly starting back
to another previous war, although that latest event seems to have more
deaths than would be projected by this rule (and by the earlier
estimates, it is easily more than 10 fold off).
Should Jewish people then be afraid of such computations and
possibilies ? By the rules in the Torah, if you are not afraid, you
broke the Torah already. Yes, you should be afraid, because Israel is
not listening to the Torah, and the world is a mad house. I cannot
compute all these things, only point to a possible crescendo going on,
now that we are still alive and can decide to start listening to the
truth. If this crescendo of punishments keeps going, by whatever rules
it may be, the next round could be absolutely devastating.
I am certain there are many Jewish people, just as before World War 2
and the Nazis, who think that it will all probably work out relatively
ok. Maybe a few tens of thousands of casualties, and then their
'moshiach' will pop up, defeat the whole world, and they will eat
icecream and party from then on to forever. How realistic is that, when
you have to distribute the land to all, and if you do not you are in
some ways a worthless example to a world run by fools. How realistic is
that, when for two millenia you have kept open lies on the books such as
the prosbul, and no amount of suffering has yet made you repent ? The
logic becomes this: the massacres above mentioned did not make you
repent from the prosbul, the suffering in World War 1 did not make you
repent from the prosbul, the suffering of World War 2 did not make you
repent from the prosbul, and despite this you are now expecting to
suffer the smallest of these punishments, and then you will magically do
what is right, repent back to the Torah, give up on lies like the
prosbul ? If that is what you think, why do you not repent right now,
and nobody has to die ?
Why do you - the klal Yisroel - not repent right now, and nobody has to die.
It was apparently needed for HKB'H to write the punishment section in
the Torah, and in it is written: 7 fold worse every punishment becomes,
until you come back. It makes sense to me at least, that this number "7
fold" should mean something to us. While the above may be complete
fantasy, it at least attempts to drive home the point, what this 7 fold
worse *could* mean. I don't say it will mean this, but it seems to flesh
it out a little bit more, it gives some sense to it, some feeling, of
how bad it might become. 7 Nazi holocausts, what is that ? Well, it
could be as bad as 19 out of every 20 Jews dying, brutaly murdered,
within the span of a few years. That is what it could mean. Perhaps it
will mean that the Jewish people will merely suffer another one third in casualties like under the Nazis, but that this time the reign of the
Tyrants will last 7 times longer. I don't know. Perhaps they will merely
take 7 times longer to kill everyone, making people suffer as they die.
I don't know.
The only thing I do think I know: the world is a mad house, and Israel
needs to return to the Torah, now, today. The way I see it is like this:
heaven punishes the Jewish people, but wants to punish as little as
possible, in the hope that as little as possible is necessary to bring
the Jew back to the truth. Therefore there are these rounds of
punishments, so as not to over do it, as perhaps they will return
already, or return when they have healed and have had a good think about things. However when there is again no result, and the Jewish people get
ever worse by the day, and already have gotten worse again than they
where when they where last punished, then it will be time for another
round of punishment.
Since we seem to be nearing the year 6,000, or are already over it,
and technology is extreme these days, which will be abused for evil also because Israel isn't giving the example to the world on how to organize
a Nation and live properly, it makes sense that the crencendo will be
going to its ultimate, sooner or later. If you think there are still
centuries left, then perhaps it will not yet be the worst. If it is
already the year 6,000 and we cannot have a lot of global nuclear wars
before we just basically wipe ourselves out or worse suffer some kind of hellish Dystopian nightmare Tyranny (notice what kind of a punishment
extreme that would be ...), then we are on the edge of the necessity
of the Redemption for Israel. It makes sense that if the necessity is
great for Israel to give the example, but Israel continues to refuse,
that the crescendo of punishments will escalate.
Interestingly, all of Israel was already to be wiped out, except Moshe
Rabbeinu stopped it. I suspect this was not the right decision in the
end, because HKB'H does not make mistakes like we humans do. I think in
this issue, is another great warning for the Jewish Nation. HKB'H was
ready to kill you all, and then put those who are worthy back as the
children of Moshe Rabbeinu. It would probably have been an act of
purification, and the people of Israel would grow back after than, no
problem.
What I see in it, is that to kill almost all of you, even down to a few,
is not off the table either. It may be the best for you, if you go on
like this, and heaven may decide that it will be the best for you, and
that they are going to do it. They may also decide that they will
"merely" kill 95% of you, but that could include you, your family,
almost everyone you know, even everyone you know. I feel you really do
not get it, Israel. You do not seem to get how serious it all is.
I have argued the Torah with you now since about 2007. I know from my
own experience how hard necked you are. I can see what an idiotic lie
the prosbul is. How dumb can you be ? Why is there no Jubilee on land,
where is your right to land ? Even those who would benefit, are
clueless. They spend their lives on reddit, going from meme to meme.
Now you went to war on Hamas, because they attacked you, but you are not
with the Torah.
Israel, I hope for you that you are right, that icecream and pizza will
keep going, we may have a little trouble but quickly your Redemption
will come, and then you will somehow (how!?) repent of that which you
have refused to repent about for countless generations, somehow it will
dawn on you that you where lying and wrong and you will return full out
to your Torah, and then we all live happy ever after, and the
homosexuals will go on planes back to the USA, and everything will end
with happy ever after.
To me, it sounds like a pipe dream, but if it could be true, it would be wonderful. I hope so for you, but I caution you: don't count on it. Come
back to the Torah right now, you in person if nobody else, you alone,
now, so that you will live while others might die for their pizza and
icecream, their memes and their diversions, because the conclusion has
been reached: they will *never* repent, they will never return. Only a
remnant will return, so Isaiah said. A remnant is not two thirds, but
more like one in twenty.
Hai hai hai Israel, how many seconds do you think it takes Russia to
turn Eretz Yisroel into a nuclear bombardment wasteland, if HKB'H gave
the order ? Have you noticed how Jesus crazed your friends in America
are, and now with their Fascist lord Trump ? You think these people,
known for their lack of culture, are better than the Germans, more
moral, they will not act against you, if HKB'H gave the order and opens
the gates for the evil ones to exact punishment ?
The way the world is going, even worse punishments are awaiting, worse
than a 95% death rate. The evil ones need to be resisted, but who is
doing it ? I see virtually no opposition, nothing with any force or
direction. Some lost souls here, confused people over there, a shallow initiative left, another broken initiative to the right. The enemy is
laughing, the criminals who rule the world think they have won. They
became the masters over a world of fools, and wish to tighten their grip
until none can escape them.
You don't see it, the birds are chirping ? The birds where chirping and
the grass was green, all throughout the Nazi holocaust. The sun was
shining, the wind may have been warm and comforting at times. Don't fool yourself. Brutality is on the horizon, Tyranny is preparing to cut the
throat of humanity, and as usual you are a target, because you can
defeat them, this time forever. It does not matter how many survive,
only that they are good, through and through, fearless and honest, brave
and out for Justice, for the sake of peace. The enemy will be on the
run, before you know it, but you have to will it, you have to return to
the truth.
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