• USA to cut money Ukraine while Russians win battles: possible reason

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 4 11:56:50 2024
    XPost: alt.politics.socialism

    title: Tucker Carlson Arrived In Moscow. No Military Aid To
    Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 2024.2.4
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LG4_ZOqn2A
    source: Military Summary


    Comment:

    The Americans always have money for bloodshed, and they need World War
    3 _like never before,_ because the National Debt is collapsing and they
    are money printing like monkeys since 2008 (with much of the world, it is
    all high treason and criminal). I do not believe the Americans suddenly
    don't have the money. The Americans (ruling class) saw that the front
    was too stagnant, the war was ending itself, just as it naturally did in Donbass. In Donbass they also kept it going, until we have this now. The Americans probably withdraw help for Ukraine, to make Ukraine loose and
    make their E.U. / NATO system afraid and subservient, but the real goal
    will always be to keep ordinary people in line with fear and death.

    I guess the USA has three basic options: keep the front stable, let the
    front move to the west, let the front move to the east. If it moves
    to the east, western populations will have less fear, and more time
    for Revolutions, which will increase in intensity as the economy goes
    down due to ruling class looting and wealth centralization. The front
    will move toward Moscow, until Russia will nuke USA out of existence
    and selected targets in the rest of Europe. While it does help against Revolution, it is a bit of a strategy of weakness at first (ironically),
    and then suddenly a nuclear strike and counter strike. They can do that,
    but I expect that it is not a strong enough political weapon in the
    beginning. Why would farmers _not_ storm the E.U. treasonous parliament,
    if the armies are dealing with the front in Ukraine just fine on their
    own ?

    Everything looks different if the front starts moving toward Poland,
    Berlin, Paris, Rome, this is where the fear will set in, and also the
    American people will be utterly consumed and obsessed with the events,
    while probably launching a new war against another Nation every few
    Months, basically being a part of it all (which they are, they started
    the whole thing, offensively that is). If under such conditions the
    people impoverish, not because of war but because of continued insane
    monetary and financial policies by the ruling class, the people don't
    even notice it, and will blame the war. If the risk of Revolution mounts,
    the armies will be much more ready and willing to kill their own people,
    for the bankers and the super rich, without even realizing that they
    are working for organized crime.

    Therefore I think the war will probably not end, the Americans will
    try to keep it going by either more money, or fewer money, or whatever
    works at that moment. To really strike fear into the western populations, Russia needs to look strong and menacing. There are probably also side
    goals, such as cutting off German production from Russian resources,
    and of course stealing the oil of the middle east.

    Now you think, great, this will avoid at least nuclear war. I don't think
    so. They will do that anyway, even just for kicks and to see how it goes, although it is also a last ditch strategy against being apprehended and
    put on trial in a post Revolutionary environment. After the nukes, they
    come out preaching peace to the shocked people of the world. The emotional shock is what they want, and out of that they want to establish their
    high technological Dystopian nightmare Tyranny over the entire world,
    ideally overtly (all together now) or behind the scenes (like the Cold
    War, which was exactly what USA wanted, and so they helped the Russians
    stay strong to maintain the Divide & Conquer).

    If the war in Ukraine really scares people enough, they might even just
    leave it there, but I doubt it. It is still very far away, and not much is happening, the weapons are also relatively small compared to what is in
    the arsenal. The front is big bust stagnant, no huge troop movements at
    speed, no completely bombing to hell big multi million cities. It is not
    at the level of height of World War 2 it seems. It is not scary enough,
    and we see the evidence: farmers are rioting, and people don't seem to
    be overly afraid yet. I don't think this is enough fear for the western
    ruling class, to deal with the consequences of their economic looting
    and crimes and the predictable anger in the population who will suffer
    the consequences. I could be wrong, it is merely an estimate.

    The front will then probably move west for a long time, and the next
    problem for the Americans is how to deal with the Russians taking all of Ukraine and then wanting to stop the war, even giving parts of Ukraine
    to Poland and Roemania. The war then reaches a natural stop, but the
    USA wants it to continue and become much worse, so I expect them to
    have worked out plans for how to escalate the situation if Russia gets
    anywhere close to the end of Ukraine. Possibly the line is Kiev itself,
    so that the USA will push their Vassals or if need be themselves into
    western Ukraine, start resisting the Russians in a bigger way, and then
    try to open a front somewhere else completely, such as in Finland or
    Poland, somewhere to make the entire thing much much worse, and to make
    sure a great many more people will die. This is what I expect, it is a
    wild guess, keep that in mind.

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    There are other reasons I expect a huge war is what the ruling class
    wants, such as that there hasn't been a big top level war since World
    War 2, the American Empire is starting to fail and they will want to do something about that, the weapons being developed during this next war
    plus what they are already having is potentially a level of technology
    which they feel is good enough to start repressing humanity *forever*,
    the mentioned shock value they are after, and they want a lot fewer
    people on Earth, and the environment is degrading quickly which might be
    even another timer (too many people doing too much damage).

    What to do about all this: see signature. People don't have much of a
    clue about what to do about it, and seriously do about it for the long
    term, therefore it all comes down on you personally. Do not expect help
    from anywhere, at least at first.

    You had been warned literally more than 10 years about this coming and
    what to do about it. Much could have been achieved in this time, both personally and politically.

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