• Hillel the Elder, Rambam/Maimonides, frauds, serve the rich & greedy.

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 11 20:24:47 2024
    title: MASHIACH HATES STUPID PEOPLE!
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Yxl7kH6lw
    source: The Gates Of Mordehay

    Comment:

    Funny how you bring up the topic of _anti-semitism_ (hatred of Jewish
    people, typically by ignorant if not evil people), and then start
    quoting Rambam, while having posed the question what _Hashem_ wants with
    this anti-semitism. You don't see the craziness in this ? I guess not
    (sigh). You (all) are breaking the Torah, as you (grrrr) well know, on the topic of loans. Prosbul (made up by traitor Hillel the Elder), and *Heter
    Iska* made up by - you guessed it: Rambam. You asked what the Creator
    wants with the anti-semitism ? No need to ask of course, it is written
    in the curses section of the Torah. You are punished for following people
    like Rambam (take interest on loans from your own people), as opposed to
    listen to Hashem (no interest and debt forgiveness). (This is probably
    not the whole story, but it is part of it.) You won't listen, as usual,
    because this is just another _ignorant if not evil Usenet comment_
    (right?), not worthy of a reply let alone to start to do Teshuvah
    (what?! right?) ... and so the world spins towards the 2nd holocaust
    with the foot off the brakes, yet they wonder why it all happens.

    It happens because people don't seem to take anything serious anymore,
    Jewish people included now. Admit the prosbul is a lie, admit the heter
    iska is a lie, admit you have been following traitors, don sackcloth and
    ashes, sit around to do Teshuvah, show your people you are doing Teshuvah
    and breaking with the traitors, and (after everything else too of course,
    that there is to the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu) then you can ask HKB'H
    for help and maybe can expect something (like hopefully surviving the
    probably coming 2nd holocaust, both in USA and Eretz Yisroel I guess,
    7 times worse than the Nazis, 95% of all Jewish people will probably die (sorry)). Isaiah: only a _remnant_ will return. Then - like 'the autists'
    said- try to be that remnant ! Separate from those who wish to serve
    the rich (Hillel, Rambam).

    You see how twisted it all has become ? Rambam, himself a traitor and of ignorance, lectures the world in his book about what is good and wise. Did Rambam oppose Hillel the Elder at least, and his cursed prosbul ? Probably
    not, and that is already bad enough. You went back to Egypt, this is the
    Torah from Egypt (Hillel, Rambam). You're lost, you cannot be Redeemed
    this way. The fire of greed created by Hillel/Rambam in the economy
    is one thing, but the dishonesty about it is yet another thing. Maybe
    the economy, if all was right, could survive this corruption, but what
    about the dishonesty of something like a prosbul or heter iska ? The
    sheer ... craziness and audacity of it, and who dare to support it. What
    does that mean, what else will they do, how deep is their ignorance, or
    how bold is their will to break down what Moshe Rabbeinu set up ? Yeah,
    you don't have an answer, right ? Seen it all before. Don't come back
    later and complain. (I don't argue the details of prosbul/heter iska
    right now, because it is too obvious and already did it dozens of times,
    and it takes a lot of paragraphs to get into the details.) You should
    reply with something like this: I looked it up, prosbul is indeed fraud,
    heter iska is also deeply suspect, I did Teshuvah and am working on
    my people to do the same. If you do, I hope you will soon live in the Redemption. If not, you probably can _never_ be Redeemed, and never
    will live in the Redemption, because you are destroying it from the
    inside out. Cancelling this comment does not cancel the truth it may
    contain. Have an awesome day.

    *

    Continuing on Usenet ... Will the above comment be the straw wich tips
    the scales, and suddenly the Redemption has started ? Very very
    unlikely, not after all that has happened, on this topic but also within
    the Jewish people themselves over the centuries. Debates have been had,
    and already lost, with seemingly no energy to revisit them. Things
    therefore seem to more and more shape up along the lines of Isaiah,
    saying that only a remnant will return.

    Given the way how the Jewish people now react to "October" (this is how
    they call the massacre near Gaza, the attack by Hamas), I sometimes get
    the impression that they think it cannot get any worse than that,
    although the Nazi holocaust was of course incomparably worse. Some of
    them, maybe many, seem to think that after this attack by Hamaz, they
    will keep winning the war and that is it. Their King will appear, and
    that will be the Redemption, and I guess basically everything will
    remain the way it is now, except it will be called the Redemption and
    they won a small war ?

    Imagine the gulf of concept which lies between that belief, where the
    Zionist State just goes on as now, perhaps with a minor change in
    Government structures and a new belief of unity around their new King or whatever, and ...

    ... All the land in Eretz Yisroel, certainly which is under Jewish
    control, to be measured and what is good for economic production will be distributed as a free right to all ...

    ... The Rabbis being exposed as creating the exile with their Hillel and Rambam, who broke down the Torah ... Rabbinical Judaism: done for, over.
    The "Oral Tradition" exposed as fake. The Torah however, is not fake,
    but good.

    ... Family values completely back to the time of Moshe Rabbeinu, with
    possible banishment for people suffering from homoexuality (it is
    death under Torah law, by the way).

    ... Basically everyone who wants a hedonistic life, does not care about
    the common welfare at all but is simply and exclusively obsessed about
    their bigger car bigger vacation bigger house and bigger icecreams
    (etc), just left and never comes back.

    ... Israel completely out of the United Nations (if that even still
    exists) and no longer in alliance with the treachorous Americans (it is
    merely a step toward a Tyrannical one world order).

    ... A lot of care given to the environment.

    ... Personal luxury toned down dramatically, especially for those who
    want excess (the rich and greedy). Poor people on the other hand, lifted
    up toward decent living standards, pretty much due to their own hard
    work using their land and the available market opportunities. That is
    how you solve poverty (in my opinion): give people opportunity in the form
    of raw but valuable land, and remove the chokehold of the super rich
    criminals over the economy so that very small initiatives can break into
    the market and flourish, not for the sake of becoming the next
    psycthopathic multinational looting operation, but for the sake of their children (for crying out loud).

    ... Just a humble small Nation, of people who want to be good and live.
    Live to enjoy the small things in life, and above all: to live, to
    experience.

    I suppose these two visions of what a good nation is, and what actually
    will happen in Eretz Yisroel, could go a little together in theory, but
    it is clear that almost nobody even on the side of the religious has
    enough care to get serious on their internal corruption (which in the
    case of the Rabbis, is about Hillel and Rambam, and probably other
    Rabbis who broke down the Torah, then probably getting the support of
    the rich to spread that message if it suited them ?).

    These Jewish people, who think it is merely a small war and soon a
    few stickers will change and that will be Israel forever, they do not
    seem to take the Torah seriously, and also not how severe the issue of
    war will likely become in the end. The Zionist State has maybe 10 Million
    total population now ? Iran recently openly attacked them in a big wave
    of artillery / rockets, but Iran is 80 million people, and other Nations
    around the zionist State are similarly vastly outnumbering the Zionist
    State. All these foreign Nations can already be called Empires in their
    own right. Turkey, Iran, Egypt, this is an incredible amount of people together. It is like two hands, and the Zionists are a fly in between.
    How can they win this without the help of the Creator himself ? They
    think they earn that help, but their Torah is quite weak, so how is that supposed to work out. If they did the above points, their Torah would be
    much stronger, but they do not want to do that (for now)

    Historically, Israel suffered much worse than this Hamas attack,
    incomparably worse. The whole moral situation (the amount of their Torah
    law keeping) of Israel is probably worse compared to what it was before
    the second world war. The ruling class criminals of the world will
    always have an interest in destroying the Torah on Earth, because it
    contains morality they are afraid off, and destroying the Torah has to
    mean to destroy Israel.

    Get that: all the ruling classes of sufficient sophistication in the
    world, and that can be from the halls of Imperial Chinese power which
    goes back many thousands of years (they have seen it all), Russia,
    middle east, America, Europe, all the criminals in the top who know that
    they are self admitted evil people and want to be evil, they know they
    have everything to fear from "the Torah movement" (in the broadest
    sense), and therefore they want to destroy that. That means to murder
    every single last Jew, because the Torah is in every single real Jew.
    It is in their hearts and minds, or at least (as Judaism has it), if
    they stood at Har Sinaii and said "we will hear and we will do" and they
    meant it - that is, to be good forever, and to be against evil forever
    and to the ultimate bitter end of entirely only being good, and entirely destroying all evil on Earth.

    In the end, it is an us or them situation. The good wins, or the bad
    wins. Bad will destroy good, and good will destroy bad. If you think
    there is a middle way, stop reading and start eating an icecream. Go
    play in the sand box. The tyrants are set against the good, and the good
    are set against the tyrants, and all to the death, forever. The war
    isn't over yet, but when it is, it should be forever.

    So ... you have a whole world ruled at the top by criminals (who don't
    have all the power, but they have a tremendous power nonetheless), who
    have extreme amounts of money (Trillions, so to say), and the most
    clever of them know they have to destroy every last Jew on Earth. Such criminals are probably to be found in all corners of the world, in the
    big Empires, where they care about how things develop in the long term.

    Even if what I say here is over the top, there are other reasons why
    Nations may want to rise against Israel, anything from jealousy to
    wanting those natural resources to scoring an historical hit, to
    whatever we just need a war to keep our people busy and whatever else.
    Being different tends to be a reason to be hated and then attacked, one
    way or the other, on any scale. It makes the war propaganda easier.
    Jewish people certainly are different in quite a few ways, like
    religion, language, history, etc. They used to be quite smart, these
    days I don't see a lot of that somehow, but I hope it is just a bit
    harder to see nowadays. Real Jewish people love peace and are smart
    people, hard working too, funny and witty.

    So ... in order for this vision to come true, where there is just a
    little war in the Zionist rebel state with Hamas and a bit on the
    borders again, or even a bigger war but fairly easily won by the Zionist
    State (against the whole world perhaps even, as some of the prophets
    have said), they are essentially saying that the Zionist State is good
    enough as it is, and that what they are doing is so incredibly important
    that the Creator himself will protect this State and the way it is more
    or less set up from the quite likely scenario of wars with the intention
    of destroying the Zionist State by Empires in the area or from further
    away, alliances of such Empires or even the entire world.

    Is the Zionist State, what the Jewish people are doing now in the
    Zionist State, is that so exceptional, so special and so important, that
    it can inspire the entire world toward peace.

    Yes, is what the Zionists say, if they believe the Zionist State will
    survive with the help of the Creator (no less), any amount of war
    against it. For what other reason would the Creator (no less) act in
    such a massive way, for the current Zionist State, as to defeat the
    entire world (which seems to be turning against Israel) ? The only
    reason which I can see, is that the Creator has decided that the Zionist
    State is capable of inspiring humanity to a lasting peace, because
    humanity cannot survive their own technology with the amount of war and
    evil they are used to and aren't stoping with yet.

    Is the reason instead, that "Hashem loves the Jewish people", and
    therefore will do that ? But why would He do that now, but did not do
    that in the desert when the people refused to enter Eretz Yisroel (with
    Moshe Rabbeinu). Why did he order everyone dead who doubted Him, why did
    they die. Why did Hashem create the Nazi holocaust, why did they die.
    Why did all the other Jewish people die, when Hashem has all the power
    to both cause that to happen, or stop that from happening. What makes
    the Zionist rebel state so much better than them, that the Zionist State
    will live, where they died.

    You see poor Jewish working people in the ghettos two centuries ago,
    being attacked. How big where their crimes ? Not keeping Shabbos
    correctly ? Scamming around here and there ? Maybe. How where they
    dressed, where they respectful to each other in general ?

    Now look at the Zionist Rebel State, people left and right in night
    clubs, dressed how ? Shabbos ? Gay parades in Yerushalayim ? Is the
    Knesset (Parliament) of Israel a gathering of the wise, the honest and
    the caring, as it should be ? What is the music like ? Are people
    helping each other left and right, to help each other out of poverty ?

    I bet there is quite a lot of good happening too, but on the level of
    the society as a whole ? Are they so much better than the Jewish people
    in 1930s Germany, that Hashem will ride out for them and lay the world
    to ashes so they can live out the next 30, 60, 100 years of their lives
    the way they are living them now ?

    It does not make sense, at least not to me. I see rather the reverse: if
    they died, then so much more will many people in the Zionist rebel State
    die, and also in America, where they seem to be quite similar. (I hope
    the honorable, the humble, the good, all will survive it, of course.)

    It does not make sense that the Zionist Rebel State will make it to
    forever, with the help of heaven, the way it is going with it. How is
    this Zionist state inspiring the whole world to peace ? That is the job
    of the Jewish people (believe it or not, but it is so !). If they can do
    it, then by all means, Hashem should protect that State at all cost !!!
    It may the the only and last way that humanity can live, without
    creating an unrelenting nightmare or even extinction for itself. We are
    only at the very start of wars which are going to be nuclear wars - how
    insane is this species, when will it end, how will it end ?!

    I don't see it.

    Rather what makes more sense to me, is more or less a variation of the
    reverse. The Zionist State and the Jewish people in America will likely
    suffer what others like them have suffered, which is massive amounts of
    death, as well as assimilation, war and tyranny. The Zionist Rebel State
    may very well be completely overrun by regional or further away powers,
    who might conduct a massive population level killing campaign. Some of
    these Nations are certainly primed with their religion to do just that.
    Isn't the Creator in control, able to set up religions like that ? Did
    your God set up the trap the way that it is set up, so that you have one
    way to go: back to him, to the truth, and then live, but if you don't
    ... then the worst is ready to go, ready and waiting ...

    *

    The debt is burning a hole in the society in general, on a global scale.
    The destabilization makes the ruling classes nervous, even as they cause
    it and it soothes them to know they are in control, and that they have
    their plans ready. War is the usual solution, and we see it happening.
    The destabilization is slowly occuring, like a big tower which is gently
    pushed further and further beyond the straight up ... and then suddenly
    the tower starts falling out of its own weight, faster and faster and
    after a wait of years, of decades, of more than a lifetime, suddenly it
    falls to the ground and shatters.

    Like Bush jr. on the fallen towers on "9/11", and what did the criminal proverbially have in his hand ? Now that the powers that be who sat in
    this neat tower where suddenly without this facade, what did they do ?
    They climbed on top of the rubble, and they held high a weapon, and the
    weapon read: Tyranny. War and Tyranny. The weapon was the PATRIOT act,
    long already prepared for the occasion. The war they soon unleashed on
    the Middle East, and a potentially even greater war they started about
    13 years later in Ukraine.

    Their order falls down by their own doing, so that they come out as what
    they really are: Tyrants, war profiteers, mass murderers, slavers,
    criminals, bandits, thugs, pitiless abusers of mankind.

    Hence the bow gets tensed, and Israel is just sitting there, small,
    quite chaotic, lots of corruption too, doesn't know what to do really,
    a Torah like a ruin. I think it will get hammered bad and will be
    bleeding bad. Not like Hamas "October" bad, but like Nazo holocaust
    times 7 bad, like genocide to the degree "how many Jews are left?!" bad,
    like "all the Jews in this town where murdered, and in the next town,
    all of the Jews where murdered". That bad. Even if Hashem makes the
    Nations bleed a hundred fold, so that they know whom they where
    fighting, I cannot see how the Zionist rebel State inspires humanity to
    become good forever, so as to merrit the ultimate defense and victory by
    the One who can do anything; but lets us make our own decisions.

    Then ... when the Zionist Rebel State falls, it will have to come true
    what the Prophets have said (or I hope so), that Israel gives birth
    before she is in labor, Isaiah 66:8. The Redemption breaks out, even
    before existing society has completely vanished into absolute chaos and
    death. I hope it will be so, but I fear that for many people, their
    Torah was too small, and therefore it will come too late for them. It is
    all too easy to think: Israel will live, and therefore you personally
    will be part of it, because it will all be allright in the end. Perhaps
    it will be allright in the end for you, through some ways beyond this
    world, but the way this may all come to pass, it may well be through a
    river of blood ... unless Israel does Teshuvah sooner, and more can be
    saved. It should be noted, that doing Teshuvah and that being
    believable, it has to be believable that you will be a caring good
    person, for all eternity, able to tow the line of the truth for your
    Nation, and when necessary *against your Nation*, that you stand for
    peace and justice and if necessary you will create that peace and
    Justice on the spot ... and not just for a day, but as the habbit of
    your entire future existence, forever.

    If you lived a life of hedonism and selfishness, even added talking bad
    about other people, not taking it narrow with family values, but then
    one day before some huge Empire takes your lands where you live and you
    will 99.9% sure be killed by them when they find you, and then you
    suddenly do Teshuvah ? You suddenly want to do the Torah with all your
    heart and soul ? Forever and ever you will be caring for people, never
    rude again ? You may believe that yourself, or even make an effort for a
    while, but where were you before ? For how long will you be on the path
    of righteousness (so to say, heh), when the streets are easy again, and
    you have no worries ? Will you stand there, will you come out of your
    house, to deal with an injustice ? If you don't stand today, then how believable is it that you stand for Justice and peace for all, when it
    is really your own life you are pleading for, again.

    Israel do Teshuvah now, and hopefully every last Jew can be saved. I do
    not advice you to belief in the fairy tale that everything will be fine
    for all the people who think they are Jewish or who live in America or
    Eretz Yisroel. Even though things may seem somewhat stable (already destabilized now in Eretz Yisroel, but not extremely), that was always
    the case before the chaos and the wars start, or hit upon some land or
    city. You have to start caring for the truth, and if you cared already,
    you have to care a lot more. Do it to save your people, not yourself.
    Try to save someone else, then maybe indirectly you will become worthy
    of being saved as well, or at least you will die with a greater peace,
    and that will be good.

    The situation in the world may seem very calm (it looks on the survace
    very calm here at least), but at the same time it is crazy tense and
    worsening year on year. Try to help someone else, that is the best way
    to help yourself (I guess), if you even need help. Helping someone else
    is a good thing, everyone should be doing it. Then we become humans, and
    we can live.

    Don't live in the illusion that things will keep going the way they are.
    The fundamentals are against that in the long term. It is just that
    nobody really knows, except maybe very few or those who make that
    decision, when it will exactly snap and how. The situation in the world
    is already very tense now. Compare that to 2008 or so, when I started
    writing to the Jewish people here and there. I always said, it is so
    easy now, we have all the rights and time we need, luxuries, everything.
    The situation was not tense, but I said already it would become worse
    and worse. You wasted so much time. You Israel wasted already something
    like 16 years or so, on my request to stop lying about the prosbul. You
    may think that is a silly statement, but is it ?

    Return to the Torah, when you can do so in a believable way for the sake
    of your people, the world, others and yourself, rather than some kind of
    last ditch cry for help because you are about to get killed. Life can
    sometimes seem so easy, but when the severity hits, it can become so unbearable. Don't underestimate that at the easy times, but prepare and
    be good.

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