This fake Rabbi, the famous M.Friedman, was also condemned by a Beit
Din.

title: Beit Din Tzedek MANIFESTO Psak Din Against Heretic Manis Friedman source: Be'Ezrat HaShem
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BjaEymyDNA

Shockingly, he is still part of Chabad !

https://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cdo/kid/469/jewish/Manis-Friedman.htm

Quote: "Rabbi Manis Friedman is a world-renowned author, lecturer and philosopher; and co-founder of Bais Chana Institute of Jewish Studies. He
also served as simultaneous translator for the live televised talks by
the Lubavitcher Rebbe." End quote.

Here another video, exposing the crazy things M.Friedman is saying.

title: TORAH Vs Manis Friedman PART II (MORE SHOCKING EVIDENCE)
source: Rabbi Yaron Reuven
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxwv6or2bNM

Comment (after I tried editing it several times, youtube started to block
me posting a comment for unknown reasons after I tried to post a too
long comment, so I will now post it here).

It is basically an attempt to counter his pseudo logic, with a bit
better logic, so that those who think they care about logic but got
confused by Manis F. can get themselves out of it. There is nothing
to his supposed logical statements.

(Comment to video.)

Manis Friedman says that God needs us, because He created us, and that
we don't need him, because he created us. He claims that at Sinaii when
God started to give the Torah (the truth on how the Jewish people should
live), that this was God telling the people what _he_ needs from the
people, and that the people have no intrinsic need for it. This is just
random rambling, and because nobody is there to give a counter argument,
it gives an appearance of being true. He apparently isn't honest enough to create his own counter arguments. You can just pontificate the reverse:
humans have been created by God, and therefore have a need for God and
his work (which indeed, seems to be so, in extremis).

The way I would see it is that humans are still in the process of being created. The job is not over, the creatures having been created are still malfunctioning. There is however hope that they can be fixed, and then
live happy ever after. The humans need these fixes, because without it
they are a failed production and may need to be destroyed. Some people
are more failed than others. The humans need these fixes. For the Jewish people, they can fix themselves if they keep to the Torah.

You can add another layer of logic over this, making it more like modern science, but keep the morality of it. Humans are the technological species
on Earth, there is nothing even close to it. The power is intense,
and keeps rising. While back in the distant past the humans had fewer technology, they may still have had a need to breed strong bodies, so
that they could throw stones with power at predatory animals, etc. The
more technology (and its infrastructure) develops, the less need we have
for fighting optimized bodies (so to say). You can see mammels fight a
lot over mating rights. The reason could be this, and humans may have had
the same reason, but it lessened step by step, as the power of humanity
slowly went over from the fighting and fleeing bare body itself, to
that which the humans where creatively making. The power goes over into
the creativity, from violence and antagonism as a factor in survival,
to peace, production and cooperation (Justice, the Torah if you will) increasingly being the factor in survival.

Now we are at the age of the nukes, and if violence continues to go on,
it can destroy everything and create a hell world on Earth even. Violence
has become very dangerous for human survival. It flipped around, from beneficial to bare monkeys, to perhaps still having a function if all
you have is throwing stones by hand, to being unnecessary and bad, to
being impossible and needing to be completely overcome. This violence and everything connected to it, is that which the humans have to overcome,
if they are to survive in the age of high technology - which might (in
theory at least) last forever (as long as this Universe / reality exists,
I guess).

This is the need we have, to be ready to deal with increasing and now
extremely powerful technology. We have to be peaceful for it, we have
to stop the violence, the wars. This is _our_ need, because without it
we will likely suffer and/or die out. Whether or not this is also God's
need, seems to be something which is rather speculative and to a degree
it doesn't matter to us. We just have to make it, one way or the other,
if we want to live. How do we reach this stage of peace and Justice,
so we can survive: the Jewish people do the Torah.

Hence, it is just random to say that God made us, and therefore it is
all His needs and not ours. He created us and the whole Universe, and now within this system if we want to survive, we need to be fixed. It is in
the Torah that God wants to have an inheritance, which is Israel. The
concept level of God seems to be fairly logical: that which creates
everything, and therefore wants everything he creates to be happy, if that
is possible. However if there are creatures who want to destroy and hurt
other creatures in order to feel good, this poses a theoretical problem, doesn't it. You could argue that such creatures need to be either fixed,
or destroyed. If the Creator has a loving need for us to be alive and
happy, we should rejoyce at this idea, to have such a powerful and caring friend, who is willing to help us survive and become happy creatures.

I guess the above could be argued out better, but what this Manis is
saying is just random. It is of course also, completely opposite of the
Torah, and it is hard to believe he doesn't know that. It's an overt
attack on the Torah. If Chabad doesn't push this guy out, Chabad is
over. Ah they didn't, so Chabad is over then.

Everyone may indeed have been created with _needs,_ and to fullfill them
is our doable task, and that makes our lives more interesting. It is (apparently) good for us. The person in question may have the _need_ to
work on deepening his arguments. The Jewish people may have the _need_
to reject what he is saying, because it is not the Torah and just
random stuff made up it seems, to detract from the Torah and increase
the amount of sins (bad primitive acts, monkey acts if you will) people
commit. People with a Science like thing, may have a _need_ to provide necessary rebuttle. I tried above, but the Torah is the Torah, if you are Jewish you have to do it, even if you don't understand that it is good,
because (at least I believe) it is very good (for the Jewish people,
and then the world). I realize the above is a bit much. If you thought it
was random talk, it really isn't (I think). It is however from the side
of science/logic, not necessarily from the Torah, because this is what
Manis does also, and I thought to give a reply from within the same field.

By the way, Hillel the Elder did the same with the prozbul, arguing pseudo-logic rather than Torah. This is how you lost your land, or it was
part of it. You fell for it, even though your Torah knew better. This
damage is still part of Judaism today (Shulchan Aruch, 66, 180, also
heter iska, a similar non-Torah pseudo logic device). I guess in a
sense, your God is pulling you through a ceive, to see who will stick
to pseudo-logic, and who will stick to the Torah/truth, so that you can
be Redeemed; may it be speedily in our days ... !

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