• Worthless replies on Rambam from Israel: you have lost your minds. (2/2

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 7 14:35:49 2024
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    you who do not understand your Torah almost at all it seems), then who
    will give the example, who is going to make a difference in this mess ?
    You don't want to ? I don't want to ? Then we are part of the same
    problem, and also don't deserve any better. We have to do better than
    this, we have to make the difference.

    Do it, and do it now. You say 'moshiach now' ? Then at least stop your organized lying about the Torah, NOW. Unbelievable, such a small thing
    to ask, and they treat it like the sky is falling and their world is collapsing. Such fools. It's quite the opposite: the haze is lifting,
    perhaps much of the suffering will soon be over. How do they react ? You
    saw it. Remember this when the next round of punishment has happened.
    You did it all to yourselves, you have nobody else to blame. Gentiles
    are bad ? Sure, many of them can be horrible. So ? Is that news ? You
    have been given your ways to deal with it, but you gave up on that. Are
    bears horrible, and its all their fault when they kill people ? We have
    ways to deal with bears, so that if we still get hurt, it's our own
    fault. Did you try your God, did you return to your Torah and see if you
    ended up safe - on a National level ? As far as I heard your history,
    Israel was "on top of the world" under King Salomon, the wise. Your God
    does not protect you ?! Even in your current state of rebellion, you
    still have many victories which are hard not to attribute to military
    mircales. Isn't your God telling you: I'm here, right here, waiting for
    you ! If however, you ultimately do not stop lying and return to the
    truth, then how can even God save you from yourselves, and what you
    yourselves need in order to do better.

    This is the world we are in, we have to solve this problem. We can and
    we will. WHat is it going to cost you, Israel, what is the price you are
    going to pay for your foolishness ? A few hours of your time ? Millions
    and millions of dead Jewish people, decades of crying and mourning ? It
    is you who makes this choice, everyone else is just waiting for you to
    do what is right. But ... but you are a confused, unruly and wild people ?
    I don't know dudes, you have to do what you have to do to get it right.
    It's your problem. Deal with it. Seek to be kind to others, talk with a
    soft tongue, but do not avoid the truth of course, but seek the truth.
    You are in a state of total confusion ? Yes indeed ! But it is not
    because you are dumb, nobody is this dumb that they don't know better
    than this idiotic prozbul of yours. It is a problem of will, you *want*
    to play dumb. Since when is Hillel the Elder a Prophet ? Never even
    officially designated as such, and never probably will. What don't you understand about the law of prophets in the Torah ? It is clear as clear
    can be. You are not really confused, you can't be. You are messing it
    up, because you want to mess it up. Find someone who also wants the
    truth, and build up from there. I don't know, deal with it.

    You think that if we have a dike breach problem in the Netherlands, that
    we are also not just going to try to deal with it as best we can,
    knowing what is on the line ? If we can't get sandbags there, then
    someone will put their finger in the dike. If we can't save the dike,
    the people have to run. If your house is burning, you throw any water
    you can find on it, and if you can't save your house you may try to run
    off with some valuable belongings, and if you can't run off with your
    valuable belongings than at least you try to save your life. It isn't
    fun, but you try to deal with it, because you have to deal with it. Deal
    with it. Do what ever you have to do. Just stop lying already, goodness
    sakes what is wrong with your people ?! Prozbul ?! Kidding me ?! Pfff.
    This is your Torah nowadays ?! No Jubilee because of this lying that
    "all of Israel needs to be in the land" when I read something completely different (announce the Jubilee to all in the land) ? How do you expect
    to be taken serious after this kind of behavior.

    This is probably my mistake. I take you too serious. I care too much
    about you, perhaps. I should stop taking you serious and start ignoring
    you, like you ignore the Torah.

    Oy oy oy .... Why do I even bother with all this.

    If, however, what i propose ends up being the Redemption, then let the
    gentiles know: I don't think I would have pressed on with it, through
    the indescribable suffering (no words for it in this language), because
    the Jewish people kept asking for it, and I did not want them to end up disappointed. If this saves you also, gentiles: know that all i
    complained about them, I complain about you worse, and if it wasn't for
    them, I would quite possibly have aborted the whole thing. I did it for
    them. I cannot accept failure, for their sake, and to see their
    disappointment and their loss. That is: the loss of Israel, you know who
    they are, they know who they are, the people with their Synagogues and
    their funny hats, the people you attacked so many times, even though not
    all your complaints where wrong. What did you do ? Even much of what you
    do right, gentiles, you do it because you heard it from them as well. Go
    thank them, and all be happy together in the end.

    If what I propose is not the Redemption, at least its the truth about
    the Torah, and you can do that.

    Oy oy oy Israel, why do you always ask the wrong question, the "who"
    question. I wish you where able to ask the "why" and the "what" and the
    "how" question. You are an idolatrous Nation, with a hard neck. Return
    Israel, before heaven has to force you. Don't you see the whole thing
    lined up already ? Do you finally see it ? Nothing much was going on
    around 2008 (it is now 6004 already, in the Jewish year, assuming 430
    years in Egypt, as the Torah says !) ? Now, closer and closer we edge to
    the full out nuclear war. Told you so. Anti-semitism rising sharply ?
    Told you so. You thought you are safe in America, safe in the Zionist
    rebel State ? Not so, told you so. Don't make it so, than when you
    suffer 7 times worse than under the Nazis, that I am left with nothing
    more than to say: told you so, many years in advance. You caused it on yourself, because you refused to listen to your Torah and the truth
    about it.

    Today even, I walked in my city in the old Jewish street. There are
    stones there, it seems mabe out of bronze or something, and they list
    the names of deported Jews. There is barely a Jew left in this city,
    even though you had two important streets in the center, and a great
    Synagogue. All gone, and for what ? You have been there before. The
    living memory of it is just fading. Did you learn nothing ? You said
    "never again", but you did not return to your Torah. Why ? You force
    heaven to conduct another "yes again", because of it. You dance with
    your Torah, you say it is great, and then you ignore it, and you are
    rude if someone point it out. Imagine you thanked me for it, and in a
    few years, all the Rabbis had cleaned up their act. Jubilee active in
    Eretz Yisrael, the whole world falls on their face, non stop you are the
    topic in much of the world. The Jews done it ! Now we understand !
    Next time there is a Revolution needed in some Nation, delegates come to Yerushalayim: how do you do this, why did you do that, how can you help
    us learn and do what you have accomplished ? They be begging you,
    honoring you, because you will be able to help them live & become a
    happy people, like you should be.

    But no, nothing: hard neck, idolatrous, bogged down in their schisms,
    hatred rising all over the world, and they all know so well what is
    right and wrong - without bothering to engage an argument of course,
    they "know" they Rabbi is right pffff. Well Israel, you go try out what
    you are doing, and heaven will do the sorting, but you have been warned
    to correct yourself and stop lying LYING about the Torah. Does that
    offend you ? Good, then you know how bad it is what you have done, and
    how shameless you where for supporting the Shulchan Aruch, Rambam,
    Hillel, the Mishne Torah, these lying books which you think are great.

    You even said this, I can't believe how mindless it is, but: if it
    stands and continues in time, it must be true. How absurd. How old is
    the Hindu religion by now ? Wasn't Egypt there before you ? How long are
    the western idolators going on with their thing, thousands of years
    already. In any case, if that is your argument: I also can go on here,
    for many many years already, and nobody stops me. Heaven doesn't stop
    me, on the contrary. I don't even have to work, I have everything for
    free, always. Last week I bought a new watch, a 350,- automatic. I'm
    looking at 2 computers here, and I have a quite roomy appartment, and a vegetable garden nearby. All day long I can rave and rant against
    Rambam, I have more time probably than Rambam himself (who was also a
    doctor wasn't he, repairing some big honcho in Egypt ?). Your Torah
    especially, it never changed, it never ended up containing the lies you
    are spreading about it. It's still there, you just chose to ignore it
    for now. Why did Moshe Rabbeinu write in stone ? I think it is obvious:
    because that is very long lasting, potentially forever. Stone really
    doesn't have to change at all, it could literally last a million years.
    Also, very hard to change the letters on those stones, if the priests
    become corrupt. They would have to probably hack out new stones with
    lies, and replace them with the old, since working within the Temple is
    likely too noisy.

    Your lies also lasted a long time now, but look: you suffered a lot in
    the exile, it wasn't a good time. You where basically burning the whole
    time. This isn't even an argument. Craziness on Earth can last very
    long, even longer than my endless ranting. I better stop this, before it
    gets deleted for length (it might be deleted for length). I'm sorry.

    sigh.
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