• Israel, a Nation in rebellion believing themselves to be good

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 19:07:30 2024
    Israel, a Nation in rebellion believing themselves to be good. This has
    nothing to do with being bad compared to the gentiles, because that is
    not the case. Compared to the gentiles, Israel is good. However, this is
    not good enough, sorry. This is about an objectivity, and a standard
    which has been raised in the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu - the *writte*
    Torah, obviously (not the frauds of the Rabbis).

    title: Call Of Moshiach 5 - Open Revelation
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEu_hJRpN3s&t=81s
    source: Ari Goldwag

    Reply ...

    I am wondering if part of the illusion the Jewish people are suffering
    from, is the idea that they are on the right side of things, because
    by reading the Tanach over and over it is easy enough to associate
    yourself with Moshe Rabbeinu and the prophets. However, at the time of
    it happening, it was far from obvious to many if not most people, what
    would turn out to be right and wrong. You seem to think that this is a
    passive event, that you would just magically somehow choose the right
    side, because you like to think of yourselves that way, to be and have
    been on the right side. In fact however, and in all the other Nations
    and their histories, it turns out to be quite the opposite. "Everyone
    is a Patriot, when it costs nothing to do so." When the fight is over,
    they side with the side who wins. During the second world war, almost
    nobody resists the Nazis. It was completely unclear if the Nazis had
    won forever, and would rule for many centuries. Then after the war,
    everyone suddenly marches and sides with the opposition to the Nazis.

    I saw this even in my home town. When the holocaust was remembered,
    many people turned out, also from the University. They even marched
    with signs in blocks. I went the other way, because the Nazis in
    Ukraine had already been set up by the USA, yet none of these people
    cared whatsoever, as far as I could tell. They still pretend the Obama
    Nazis in Ukraine (2014) was a good thing. Obama literally started World
    War 3, and the masses still pretend it is not so. Another example of
    people choosing the side of criminals in the moment where it counts,
    and then in later centuries they will think they are on the other side,
    having seen what it will all lead to and what really happened. I am
    sure there are countless people who have no idea about what I am writing
    now, because they side with the wrong side in the moment, being in all
    kinds of illusions about reality. When we remembered the holocaust here,
    there where a fair amount of people, at least hundreds. When the Corona
    curfew was declared, a senseless act of Dictatorship lrong after Corona
    had already spread itself and it turned out to not be so serious after
    all, I was the only one on the city square to protest it by breaking the curfew. The police gave me a ticket, I was happy to accept that and looked forward to a court case. Even the journalists had expected something,
    they gathered in a corner, but nothing happened. I was literally the
    only one person to protest a curfew, a senseless act of dictatorship,
    probably a test for when stuff gets serious when the financial system
    finally breaks down under the impossible debt they have mounted for the
    purpose (the National Debt pyramid scam, which already imploded by the
    way, that is why they are printing money and using that power to their
    own advantage all over again).

    Later when the future generations read the history the people in the
    moment are not allowed to know, when they learn about how under Trump
    the resistance to Ukranian dictatorship was murdered, when they side
    with the other side as their parents or grandparents had been on, they
    will imagine themselves different people. They would be the ones to risk
    their lives in the fire, they would go to war on the Nazi Battallions of Kolomoisky. They would walk straight into the bullets to the voting booth
    in Donetsk, fired at them by the Obama installed regime, fearless for
    the right to vote. This they would play and replay in their minds. They
    are "the good guys", they are "the heroes", they have sided with the
    good: how could they not ?! It is in their blood. In actual reality,
    they focussed on buying a bigger car, they worried about their rent,
    and they couldn't care less about people dying who needed their help -
    this is the case for the vast majority. The priority: to fit in, to
    conform, to be comfortable, to be popular.

    This is the same delusion I think the Jewish people are in. You think
    you side with the Prophets, you think you side with Moshe Rabbeinu, yet
    you break their laws. You have overthrown the Torah economy, as if it was nothing. You have overthrown debt cancellation in the 7th year, you have overthrown the Jubilee on land, you have overthrown even the Shabbos
    (!), and you have damaged the prohibition against rent seeking. You
    are in rebellion against the Torah, you are in many ways, enemies of
    the Torah. Didn't Moshe Rabbeinu condemn someone to death who broke the
    Shabbos ? You break it by fake law, with your candle lighting. You end
    it prematurely, but a day is a day, it ends when you go back to sleep for
    the night. You think tying a box to your head makes you holy. It's a show,
    it's a circus. Help another Jew, help him in his life, that is what would
    make you a great man, even if you otherwise followed Rabbinical Judaism
    (God forbid, I suppose!).

    Where are these traitorous acts of the Jewish people recorded, can
    I proof it ? How come you don't already know ? Rambam Shemita 10:8,
    an obvious lie. Prozbul (Hillel the Elder), a lie. Heter iska (Rambam
    again), a lie. Shabbos candles ? I think it should be obvious.

    You notice how there are no Prophets anymore. The Prophets closed the
    book. Why ? Because you are against them, as a people. You keep denying
    them, attacking them, even murdering them, ignoring them, hating them,
    because you don't want to hear the truth. You don't want to be with
    the Torah, you want to _pretend_ you are with the Torah. You want to
    _pretend_ that you side with the good guys of long centuries past, while
    in the moment that it counts - now, *today* - you all do the opposite
    (this is addressed to Israel in general). It doesn't matter if you would
    know or not know who this 'moshiach' is, because even if you knew, you
    would be against the truth, you would be against what he would have to
    be saying, which has to include the betrayals of the Torah which I listed above. Otherwise, he would be a liar, like you, and the Redemption would
    be meaningless, a lie such as the Zionist State is a lie.

    In the moment that it counts, you don't know yet what will happen
    next. You have to care for the truth and justice, the peace, to know
    who is right, you need to care to hear the story, from all sides. If
    you don't care to listen, then you won't know who is right. Even if
    you know who is right, you may still lack the courage to act, and look
    the other way when it counts. You would be doing nothing, in the moment
    that you could have made the difference. Therefore it doesn't matter if
    you know who is 'moshiach' or not, because you all don't care for what
    is the truth, one way or the other. You are going to deny it one way
    or the other, so that you can go on with whatever you have been doing,
    so that you don't have to change, so that you don't have to admit, so
    that you don't have to say sorry. So that you don't have to say sorry to Hashem, for having overthrown his good advice, and done so much damage, especially to yourselves. You all did it to yourselves, and it is just
    going to get worse. You all did it to yourselves. You are doing it to yourselves, you are destroying yourselves.

    It doesn't matter who the 'moshiach' is, if you don't care about
    the truth. You would and will simply oppose, deny, doubt, look the
    other way, let someone else take care of it. This has been going on
    since - in human terms - forever. That is why there is no Redemption,
    and why there probably will not be one soon either, but rather just the opposite. You think you are already good, Israel, you think you are there alreadyi. The buttons have been polished, the work is done ?! You failed Israel, you failed your mission, you are a wreck. You became a goy ! You
    are an idolator, you worship "Sages" phony sages with phony logic. Why
    are you tempting heaven to come down for punishment, when at least the
    truth is so obvious, and perhaps the Redemption is just one grasp away.

    It doesn't matter if you know who is or isn't 'moshiach', you will not
    listen to what is being said one way or the other. You are asking for
    an idol, someone else to fix your problems and overlook your mistakes,
    where you should be siding with the truth and deal with it all strongly,
    out of your own initiative and understanding.

    * End reply. At first it seemed to post, also upon reloading, but then
    it disappeared, hence I post it here now.

    There is nothing more to say. The Jewish people have chosen against the
    Torah, which is also known as: choosing death (in Judaism). It is incomprehensible why they do this, when it is all so obvious. It will
    likely be so glaringly obvious for future generations, that it become unfathomable why the people today do not listen and care for the obvious
    truth.

    It is however true for all humanity and not merely Israel: the bombs are getting too big, and that is just one class of extremely dangerous
    weapons which have been and are developing. It is all just going to get
    worse and worse, more and more dangerous, more and more deadly. It looks
    to me like the gates of hell are slowly opening, because a Tyranny
    conducted with weapons which become too powerful by any amount of people
    to overcome them, run by hardened and highly cunning generational
    criminals who know every criminal trick there is to know, who knows how
    to overthrow it and restore some kind of normal life again. Even with
    spears and swords, the worst has already happened on Earth, and that for
    many centuries.

    There is no more time for playing around, at least not any serious time
    like thousands of years. The criminals exist, they know they are
    criminals, they know that if ordinary people knew what they are doing,
    that they would be done away with for life. They want Tyranny, they want
    to rule by violence, they want to "get away with it" and to "continue
    their reign". You live in an illusion if you think ordinary people rule
    this world.

    They know perfectly well what it means to throw bombs out of helicopters
    on small villages in the jungle in another Continent. They know
    perfectly well that there is no sensible reason for doing so. They know
    what it means when the bomb hits a house of a family. It is the same act
    as if they went into a house in their own street in the west, in USA or
    France or Denmark or wherever, in some random city or Capital, and they
    would bring a sword and start murdering the family in that house one by
    one, and leave some alive only to die hours later from their wounds.
    They know that what they are doing with their wars, is exactly this: to
    go into a house of an otherwise innocent family, and hack them to death
    with a sword, one by one, elderly, parents, children, babies, all of
    them. This is the people they are, these are the kinds of people who are
    in control, these are your ultimate bosses, these are the ones who want
    to rule you, forever, as a slave without the slightest of say, even only
    to exist for their amuzement to use and kill you. This is their dream.

    They are not the kind of people to just let you have another thousand
    years of relatively normal life. If you think ordinaryi people are in
    control, then you are ignoring all the bloodshed, the evil, and also the stupidity of some of the Government its actions (such as money
    printing, never dealing with the really serious issues of power in the
    economy, and so on). If you think the criminals are going to let you
    have your simple life, then yes but only to a point, and then it all
    collapses in on you, and suddenly you are fighting for your life.

    It cannot go on like this anymore. Humans need to stop being idiots, and
    stop being violent animals. Otherwise there is in the long term, no real future, and probably especially not one worth living. If you think that
    there is one, if you think you don't have to overthrow the criminals,
    you have put yourself to sleep, you side with the enemy you listen to
    their stories and you believed them, because they made life easy for you,
    until it was too late.

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