Some Jews - perhaps even many - seem happy that the USA has (s)electeed
would be dictator and enfant terrible "Trump" (the murderer).

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxMXOeTZr8
title: Trump is a game changer for Israel - IDF lieutenant explains
source: Berel Solomon, 258K subscribers

Reply ...

Completely lost and divorced from the mission of truth, peace & justice,
given at mount Sinaii through Moshe Rabbeinu. You reached your goal,
Zionists: you became gentiles, with your own little principality. You
look for legitimization through force, _without_ running your Nation and justice system in a good way, just like all the other Nations. This was
the big plan, and now you did it. You turned yourselves into gentiles,
and oppose the Torah, the truth. You want "peace" of course, but even
criminals want peace: for themselves.

This is now what it has come to: you have your principality, and
you depend for your power on the global Empire USA (America). Who is
this Empire, what are its actions ? With whom are you siding, having
ripped yourself away more and more from your God and your Torah, for
security. You gave up completely on your Torah, and now you look for
a new source of security, and it is America, and specifically Trump,
the Revolutionary Fascists of the USA.

This is the USA ruling class: they *financed Hitler* this is so well
known, we literally learned it in middle school. Prescot Bush (the
grand father) was convicted over it, but then his son gets elected
President. The second world war went like this: "they" (the psychos of
money, and are you one of them, Berel hmm are you one ofd those psychos of money ?) needed a war to keep the poor under control, the labor unions,
the parties who wanted ... justice & peace. There already had been a
Revolution in Germany in 1917, leading to the uneasy peace of the Weimar Republic. This Republic was ruined by debt, just as the world today is
drowning in debt.

The essential issue is that the super rich destroy society, and attempt
to turn it into a Tyranny for themselves. This is how it has been going
ever since Rome. The economy is not in good order, which goes back to the jewish people who refuse to give the example. The example was put in the
Torah: free and forever right to land (Jubilee), debt forgiveness 7th
year, no interest on loans, rest days and more rest days, freedom for
slaves. You stopped doing it, and Nations have been stumbling over the
super rich since forever, all making the same mistakes in their economy
as you did with your Rambam Shemita 10:8 (where you have codified this
phony law, this treasonous misreading of the Torah).

Now you are facing yet again the same, from Rome to Germany to USA,
the super rich want the fall of the Republic, and they are putting in
their Tyrant. In the USA, Trump is similar to Mussolini or even Hitler,
saying things like: _I feel great about torture,_ obviously he is a
heartless and uncivilized person without anything worthwhile to say
(his speeches are bizarre and also quite boring because almost nothing
of interest is said). He is merely another super rich abuser of people,
working for some other psychopathic Billionaires who never have enough,
there to safeguard their class when the economy and financial system
goes wrong due to the uncontrollable corruption which they themselves represent. They literally are themselves this so-called "deep State".

Do you even know what TORTURE is about ? What right does the evil Empire
USA have to run other people their countries, such as Iraq, which is where
they are torturing people who are likely resisting the foreign invasion
and occupation regime they are under, which reportedly many years ago
already was responsible for more than a million deaths in Iraq. A million deaths, think about that. Iraq hadn't even anything to do with 9/11,
and was already damaged by the USA who had put Saddam Hussein into power
there. The Iran which the USA pretends to fight, it became like this
again thanks to the evil of the USA, who turned Iran into a Tyranny, overthrowing its democracy. USA in the second world war got Europe into
another big war, have their European enemies destroy each other and then
stab their Nazi friends in the back in the last moment when otherwise
Russia would take over, to boot their Empire unto the world stage on top
of many millions of dead (and many millions of Jewish deaths). This is
what USA did in the second world war: bring Hitler to power, set Germany against Russia, have everyone kill each other, and then march is as the
phony liberators to snap up entire Nations as their new Vassals. You
realize that NATO is nothing more than the USA Vassal control grid,
and so is the United Nations ? The so-called European Union itself is
the dream of the Nazi financiers, of a united economy which they could
then exploit. Brussels conquered Europe ? France and Germany just happily merged ? You really think so ? Even right now they don't want to think
about it, but they where conquered by the Nazi financiers. For a long
time the USA kept their control over their European conquests using the
fear of the Russians.

Let's not forget this: USA financed and helped the Nazis, the Russians (whatever you may think of them) defeated & destroyed the Hitler
regime. USA was merely there to snap up the pieces for cheap and make
money and power out of the whole thing. The western front was nothing
compared to the hell on the eastern front.

The point is: this evil Empire of the USA, who has now again put Nazis
into power in Europe and again ignited a war which will likely become
World War 3 with Russia (central Europe vs Russia), they running military occupation regimes wherever they can, and those regimes come with torture,
with death squads in the night, with disappearances, with political assassinations, and so on. That is what it means "I feel great about
torture". Do you realize what torture is ? Apparently not ? How about you
get subjected to some torture, and see how you like it ? Is that what it
takes for you to care about other people who live in their own country
far away from the evil USA, then get bombed and then get hauled off to
USA torture camps ? Every USA torture camp figuratively has a portrait of
Trump in it, who already was President and thereby ratifying their torture practices, with the line under it "I feel great about torture". Those portraits, figuratively, are splashed with the blood of the victims of
that torture, who aren't even anywhere near the USA, who where living
their own lives. Was it their crime that they didn't eat at McDonalds,
and now they need to be tortured for it ? That is essentially what it
boils down to. This is whom you are siding with.

This evil man Trump has already murdered the elected President of Donbass (Donetsk People's Republic), Zacharchenko. He was a good guy who _opposed torture_ but essentially refused (with his people) to be ruled by NAZIS
(who where yelling "Communists on the knives, Russians on the knives" in
Kiev during the violent Obama-Nazi coup). For historical reasons it is
hard to deal with a Nazi regime in Kiev, for the people in far eastern
Ukraine. Go back and see the election history of Ukraine, and you see
that the western Fascists just couldn't accept the election result,
and then forced it with violence.

Do you know how he was assassinated, Zacharchenko, who released even
a captured Colonel at some point back to Ukraine (if we could believe
the video, which seemed to be plenty realistic) ? This Colonel was
then approached by a small angry mob, who wanted this guy killed on the
spot, for all the bombings in Donetsk (IIRC). No, he wouldn't let that
happen. Zacharchenko was no Trump, no gangster who _feels great about
torture._ Do you know how he was killed ? You should. The person you are glorifying was President when he was killed. You have a duty to know about
who the person was, that Trump killed. Obama started World War 3, Trump
made sure it kept going, and now that Trump is back, I fear the worst.

You left your God a long time ago, you overthrew your Torah, and this is
became of you. This is the shoulder you are now leaning on for support. I
just looked it up, and even in 1932 there where still Jews, rich Jews
(as opposed to poor Jews), who voted for Hitler. Look, I get it if
you oppose the Woke madness, and/or even the refugee influx, but they
put those things on you to get you to support Trump, who otherwise is
an unelectable violent mad man. Trump created even that, because they
know they can manipulate you that way. If you had not been so easy to manipulate, the refugees and the woke madness might never have occured,
or not to this extend. That is how I see it at least. You may think you
are voting against the craziness of transegenderism and therefore for
the Torah, but things are not that simple.

It isn't really your job to elect bosses over gentile Empires, to make
choices between trancegenderism and torture. How about I don't like
either ? I won't vote for torture, just because I don't agree with
something else. You just need to be good yourselves, to do your Torah.

From all this we can basically see the future. You side with the Hitler
of our time, and this power might be set against everyone who wants
democracy, freedom, peace and justice. When that is done, the Fascist
regime itself might collapse, and then you get the backlash against
yourselves who have supported the Fascism. Then the other half can be
attacked, which might be what Obama is waiting for. You really see the
anger going up in the (loosely speaking) Obama camp, and I think this
might become dangerous for the Jewish later, and it is fueled by actions
of war which you might be worsening under Trump.

It is a bit like a chess game I guess (Go game!). There is a King and a
Queen piece representing Obama & Trump, and then two pawns representing
two sides of the Jewish people. The King first kills one pawn, and then
the other comes in to kill the other pawn. Trump & Jewish Fascism against
lower class / left Jews and left wing people in general, and then after
World War 3 (which in Hitler style would be run by Trump?) a reaction with Obama (or whomever) against the right wing Jews and Fascists (except those
who are protected of course, the connected super rich criminals and the
sorts). Why all this madness: to get a Tyranny out of it, to keep the pot boiling, and to handle the debt crisis (National debt); but I think the
deeper plot is that the debt crisis itself was created for this purpose, because "they" know exactly how debt works, hence this is not an accident.

Then we have the technological angle, because the technology is now very advanced, and a Tyranny with all these toys is very dangerous. I think
that they think that they can make it stick forever this time. I think
that they think that this is the moment when one clique conquered the
whole world, and can now boost themselves into the cosmos. I bet they
think they have won the struggle on Earth, and are set for a glorious
future into subjugating the rest of the Universe - silly as that
sounds. This idea also motivates a bunch of loonies to play along and do
their part. It's all kinds of ideas which hold these criminal operations together, and now you - the Jewish people - even became one of these
elements. This illusion that you are save under the wing of America.

Is it safe to make friends with an organized gangster, a carreer criminal, someone whose family for many generations went into professional crime
? You do understand, I hope, that they all kill their own ? You know how
the "morality" of these people works ? They have a temporary alliance,
so long as the money is good. When the money ends, they are merely a
number of killers finding themselves in the same room ...

Return to your Torah, and live. Stop following the traitors Hillel and
Rambam. Come out of this silly exile which you keep perpetuating.

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End reply. Continuing on Usenet. The point is not that what I think
could happen, will happen. That may be your game. The point is that it
is looming right now, and therefore you should worry and correct in the
present to guard against the dangers. The point is not to make a correct prediction. The point is to identify possible dangers and opportunities
which seem to realisticly be there, to then plot a course of decisions
which is wise.

If you said: the weather is very dry and hot, if we allow children to
play with fire we run a high chance on a forrest fire. Then you do it
anyway, and no forrest fire happens. Where you right though ? Yes, even
though it did not happen.

If you said: the weather is wet and cool, we will not have a forest fire
if we camp carefully. Then you camp carefully, but unbeknownst to you
some people use gasoline to start a forest fire nearby. You have been
wrong ? No, you where right, your conclusions where correct. Also if you
caused the forest fire yourself due to some unlikely accident, the
statement would still be correct. This is the sphere of reasonable human decision making.

Since this is a Jewish group and so we are also dealing with this thing "Prophets", all that is up to heaven. To "be a prophet" is a specific
law: first of all you have to claim that you are, and then *all* your predictions need to come true, no matter how unlikely. If it is dry and
hot you say "no fire" if there won't be one, and "despite the wet and
cold there will be fire" because there will be. It is in that sense the
reverse but more likely, just a different kind of game (so to say).

What heaven does is up to them. I try to point to sensible dangers which
could develop, even though we cannot be certain. The logic is based in
no small part on the past, and some loose guessing. It is based on
arguments, some logical thinking (I hope). The basics of normal life. I
think this is good, also because I promote a highly democratic form of
an economy and State, in which we should (I guess) be making our
decisions in this way. We don't know everything, but we can make
reasonable guesses, and for much of the time we will probably make
fairly good decisions if we did that, and for everything else we would
have to correct ourselves later.

Things can develop very different. However if you look at history and
the fundamentals of things, I come to the above mentioned conclusions.
If you think that Trump is great for Israel because he will support the
IDF against Iran, I feel that this is the thinking of a day fly. You are looking ahead no more than one year here, even less ? What happens after
the Fascist, how will opinions change, and so on ...

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