title: Where is The Messiah Already? When is The Suffering Going To End? source: The Torah Channe
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiSwcluOOGo

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You see all these 'Jesus' comments ? While what they say is not true,
the truth is hidden in it, but you don't understand it probably, because
you are against the Torah while laying claim to it. You don't probably
even read a comment like this to the end, and when I give you sources, you don't look them up, and when you look them up yiou don't think about it,
and when you think about it you don't understand and when you understand
you don't admit it to yourself that it is true, and when you do you don't
act, right ? There is no 'moshiach' for Rabbis who break the Torah down,
as you have done, but you don't admit it because you have lost your
minds and you are filled with pride and certificates. Rambam Shemita
10:8, how long is it still going to take before you admit that this is
a lie ? Prozbul, how long ? Heter iska, how long ? Breaking the Shabbos
every evening (not a day), how long ? When these western idolators say
'Jesus is your messiah', you probably read that wrong. You think they
mean 'Jesus is your Messiah'. Because that's what they said. That's
what they mean. You understood how they meant it. Think a bit deeper:
You are following the traitor Hillel the Elder, with his prozbul and his
Sun idolatry. Sun idolatry ! You don't admit that to yourselves either,
that the Rabbis had fallen into Sun idolatry at the end of the second
temple. Sun idolatry ? You don't even have the courage or will to ask
the question, because you think I'm just another stupid idolator from
the west, another insane person. Maybe I am insane, but not so insane
that I don't see that the so-called Lamp of Helena is anything other
than Sun idolatry. You Rabbis, you, when the Sanhedrin was under the
house of Hillel at the end, or at least that broader period. I tried to
find out exacty when the Sun idolatry began, and the best guess I have
is 20 years before the Temple was destroyed; but I'm sure you can find a
better answer easily. HKB'H didn't destroy a house of Torah learning &
Justice. He destroyed a Sun idolatry temple, because you have kicked
out your God and his laws, with your failure to keep the Jubilee for
no reason, and now the prozbul you completely started to make up your
own fake laws. You are a corrupt movement within the Jewish people,
and this also the Jesus idolators tell you, even though they are so off themselves, and so much worse. It is still true. When they say 'Jesus is
your Messiah', I think you could read that as an insult: 'You act, as
if Jesus was your Messiah !' It is an insult, an accusation, you could
say, your God has dispersed you to the Nations, and accused you there
(wasn't there a Prophet who said it? I seem to remember it vaguely,
perhaps Ezekiel ?). You _are_ the Jesus idolators, except you don't call
him Jesus, to you he is ... Hillel. There are other weird things with
this too ...

Why are the western idolators always so busy with the name of their idol
? Very specifically the lettering and pronunciation of the name. Why
do they care about such nonsense ? Is it Jesus, is it Yeshuah ? Well,
I found it curious. Wasn't Zeus just always Zeus, and Thor just always
Thor (Scandinavian idols) ? Maybe there is a clue in it: they did get the
name wrong. The name of their idol is not Jesus, it is Hillel the Elder,
a traitor to the Torah. Hillel was famous for being lax with the law,
a watering down of the law. Anyone can join, just stand on one leg and
start studying. He torn down the Torah finance law of the 7th year debt nullification, so that the rich where happy again, and they could lie to
the poor that they too where helped. Everyone happy (except of course,
not at all). This is what the Jesus system has been historically about:
very reduced sense of morality compared to the Torah, and everything
with a smile "love your enemies". That's what Hillel did, he "loved the
enemy" who where the rich who where not lending as they should, who needed punishment. No, he didn't punish them, he made fake law for them so they
could henceforth do their crimes without fear of punishment. Torah dead
? So what, everyone happy ! That's Hillel. American Jewish people even go
to the shame of calling a student in college with a special position a
'Hillel' or so I read. How insane is that. You're being called a boss,
in the honor of a traitor and destroyer of the Torah and of Israel,
someone and a house which has caused the exile and probably even fell
into Sun idolatry ? Oh, but you pretend it is not so, and therefore you
think you are allright. If you want to turn your life into a buch of lies,
that is the way ot go, and the result will be: no moshiach, no Redemption,
but rather the next round of punishment, 7 times worse than the Nazis,
as the Torah says, every round is 7 times worse.

Another weird thing with Yoshke the Bastard, is that the idolators
are always hammering on how Yoshke the Bastard suffered. This is their
main focus basically. Then the accuse Israel of killing this suffering
good person. It is another story which, even while not true, it is
the same general events as Israel murdering and abusing their actual
Prophets, and also Israel has abused Moshe Rabbeinu himself (tried to
kill him). So you see again, that you are accused by the gentiles, who
are themselves worse and what they say is technically and in detail not
true, but there is a broader theme in it, which is a correct accusation
against Israel. However, you don't liste, you don't listen to anything,
which means you don't want the Torah and you don't want the Redemption.

This is the biggest failure with 'moshiach' and the Jewish people I
think: you behave toward is, just as the gentiles with their Yoshke the
Bastard idol. You think you will be rewarded and uplifted, because you
are already good. Why would you be good ? Because you pretended to stand
for the Torah, you pretended to have that loyalty. For a gentile King,
that would already be enough, that's the main thing: a personally felt
loyalty to the King as a person, expressed as celebrating that King,
their feasts, their flag, and so on. This activity means that the King has power, and that his commands will be followed, also by the Army. This is
how you behave toward the Redemption. You think that having superficial
and law breaking behavior with respect to the law of the Torah is enough,
and that the main thing is to celebrate your loyalty to the coming idol
as a person. You think there will be a person who will be on _your side_
just as the idolators for Yoshke the Bastard think exactly that. Because
they went to their circus, they expect the reward. The pope is indeed
happy with them (if they belong to Catholicism), and also money flows
in. For them, that is a big thing, and you act that way also. You
think some King will come, and be accepted by Israel as a people, you
pledge loyalty and do what he says (and you probably especially expect political decisions and Governmental decisions or even Military command),
and everything will be fine. You think you are already good, by pledging
the personal loyalty "in theory", as a celebration, as a word.

What you seem to forget is that this is not about Kingship like the
gentiles. This is about how to live correctly, to have peace and justice
for everyone. For this to happen, you need to follow certain laws, such as
in no small part the right to land for everyone. That is the Jubilee on
land (in the system of Israel). You see, it is not about this King this
idol that you want. It is a struggle against _you yourselves_ who have overthrown the laws and rights of the people, such as the Jubilee. There
is no solution for you this way. You are yourselves the enemy, because you
are corrupt. You don't want to change, because you think you are already
good, and you think this King will soon save you. It's like the thinking
of a child, that you are suffering from. If you clean out your Rabbinical Judaism, then leave the rest to your God, and everything will happen
as it should. If you do not clean out your corrupt Rabbinical system
(Hillel & Rambam, probably other problems as well), then no amount of
Kings can save you. You will also simply refuse to listen to whatever
King might even come to save you, because ... he is not validating your
phony beliefs and fraudulent Rabbinical Judaism. You lack the modesty
and humility to admit you have been wrong. You are a prideful and hard
necked people, and it has been said that this has helped you against the western idolators, it is now hurting you because you refuse to come back
to the truth. No amount of Kings or Prophets is going to help you, if you
want to stay corrupt. You will rather become the enemies of the few who eventually do want the truth, and they will form hopefully a group that
will overthrow you and potentially even drive you out of Eretz Yisroel entirely, by force (if heaven wants things to happen that way, I guess;
I hope for you it doesn't have to come to that, but that you stop with
your lying about the Torah earlier).

You Israel rejected this message already for 15+ years, since about
2008. It looks like you have made your choice. The same choice that the
Jesus idolators make: put all your gambling pieces on the fraud, because
if it came true (which it will not), the payout will be large. I think
that this is how you all are thinking about it. Not rationally, not caring
for the truth, but emotionally like gambling. This choice which you made, against the truth, I think it will destroy you. 7 Nazi holocausts is
likely going to mean: 95% to 99% Jewish people will be dead. Given this
reality which is likely to happen, it really surprises me that Jews are
already so upset at a few thousand deaths. Even if a Million Jewish people where murdered, it would still only be the beginning of the next round
of punishment. If it stopped there because you stopped lying about the
Torah, you would have been incredibly lucky that only a Million Jewish
people where murdered. If 6 Million Jewish people are killed, and then
you stop lying and following Hillel and Rambam, you are still cutting
short that round of punishment thanks to your Teshuvah. You would come
away quite well from that, you should celebrate that as a great victory,
given what was due to you under the Torah.

Stop acting like a child. Grow up. Admit your failures, so that you can
already stop being guilty over them. You don' t have sages, you don't
have Rabbis. It is merely you, and your Torah, and your God if you can
find him. You have created a Big Lie of a society, it is has become a Big
Lie. You are basically become indistinguishable from the Jesus idolators,
whose law keeping is also fake, and who are also idolators. You don't
take things serious, you think you know better non stop without really
caring, and then when you should know better you pretend not to notice
but follow these phonies like Rambam, because everyone else does. You
have been warned and shown the way out. There is no 'moshiach' for people
who can't figure out Rambam is a liar, because how can the Redemption
be build up by people that silly, and that corrupt ? You do Teshuvah
first, and the rest is up to heaven. That is the system. Stop breaking
the system. If you want to be idolators and corrupt to the bitter end,
you will likely be destroyed by heaven, because time is up: the bombs
are getting too big. I merely compute your Torah for you. All guilt is
being transferred to you. Heaven keeps its promises, and Israel ... Israel
does not, but still thinks she deserves the rewards. It cannot even be,
do you not understand ? Corrupt & lying people cannot make a Nation af
peace and Justice, it is impossible. You ruin it from the inside out,
just like Adam did in Paradise. You need to be fit to live in peace
first. You are not. You are a corrupt and prideful, hard necked people,
who neglect the obvious truth but still think they are good anyway. The consequences are teaching you otherwise, and at some point, it won't
matter anymore what you think.

* End reply.

[Continuing on Usenet.] It didn't post, because it was too long. I
didn't try again, because they don't care anyway. They made their
choices. Israel made its choice for adversity and death. They prefer
their pride over the Torah.

The 'Redemption' (I guess) is so boring, I started learning Wei-Qi,
aka Buduk aka Go ;-). It's a great game to learn to be humble, at least
for me because I loose a lot ;-). It is amazing how such simple rules
can create such a complexity.

All last chances for a Redemption with ease are being pissed away by
Israel now, every day is a big loss because it seems the fall of this
world is so close. It still could take years, because we just don't
know. Things tend to go slow and go into a state where nothing makes
sense anymore for a while, or at least that can happen. On the other
hand, things can also go fast suddenly, when it breaks and transforms
itself. The ruling class - of course - have big criminal plans of
creating more power for themselves, also in relation to a new digital programmable currency, because the debt crisis is the underpinning of
what is happening.

They are inflating the currency and will eventually probably destroy the currency, but probably not until they have made an alternative more to
their liking. Hence 'destroying / hyperinflating' the currency might look
more like a political program of initiating a new currency, and things
might look relatively stable on the surface, or actually are stable. It
would represent however another transfer of power to the ruling criminals,
with a power that they will use when they are ready.

I'm not into trading of course or how the current economy is exactly
going, so I don't know as much about it as some other people. Then
again, at least I try to be honest and come up with a plan that goes
into the opposite direction, and that is what this is more about. I
suggest to follow people like Gregory Mannarino, Gerald Celente, and the
people they hang out with and are friendly with, because even though
they are not doing what they should to reform the system to what it
should be (they also refuse to listen), I think they are telling you the
truth about the economy. Also look for a healthy dose of hatred that
they have, for the ruling criminals. They might not be as good as Jewish
people should be - who have the Jubilee and the Torah - but they seem to
be the best of the gentiles, doing what they know is right for the
people, humanity and their Nation, and asking for a return to at least
less insane policies and laws.

The actual criminals though, the ones who make the decisions, the ones
who set up Davos, set up the European Union and NATO, organized the
United Nations, buy up all the mass media, who are running Trump or
are on par with the people who do (it seems to be the Mercer
Billionaires, at least in the beginning), these people are rich enough
to not be known. They use others in the spot light I think, at least for
the most part. I have never really found out where these people publish
their crimes, although Zbigniev Brezinski seems to have been one of the
most evil people who was seen by the public, and he did apparently write
a book about how they where going to be messing in Ukraine vs Russia.

The people who organize and set agendas for the top level, where top
corrupt politicians and other power brokers, and the lackeys they are
using, such as G8 probably, World Economic Forum, the people behind
this: that is where I think the top organized criminals have an
interface which can be traced back to them. Ownership of mass media and
also generally in the ecenomy, which they hide in all kinds of ways,
this ultimately also ties back to them. Since they know how evil they
are, most of them have likely tried to make it as hard as possible for
these lines to be traced. Their lives may depend on that, so they made
it extremely hard.

Al Martin (Iran Contra) also talks about this in his book, that they
made lines of control over post office boxes in weird Caribian island or whatever, who then pass money / control to other spots, to such an
extend that tracing it became impossible and they where actually not
traced and got away with it all.

How about a game of WeiQi ? ;-).

Oy oy oy ... just like a man I talked to yesterday said ... "Utopia" and
he is right. IT's a Utopia that humans will get it right. That is why
you Israel, you are going to do it anyway, you are going to show them
that it is not a Utopia to live in peace, and rather the opposite, that
what we are living now is a Utopia which cannot last.

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