• Requesting the Chief Rabbi & all Rabbis to step down for their lying.

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 29 10:33:19 2025
    title: Israel Chief Rabbis - Ramabm Greetings
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlgUbrPvK8
    source: Siyum HaRambam Haolami - Official Channel

    Reply ...

    Ok, I guess I will have to say: Chief Rabbi of Israel, you are hereby
    dismissed and may never be even a teacher of the Torah in any way, and
    nobody should listen to you for the rest of your life, because you have supported Rambam with his obvious frauds, who have caused the exile and
    put the whole world at grave risk. I realize you may not understand
    it, but that too is part of your guilt, because (certainly by now),
    you should already have understood. All the Rabbis who listen to the
    Chief Rabbi, also may never be listened to again and may never teach
    the Torah again, because they are teaching lies to the children. I think
    all trust in these people has to be deleted at this point, the lies have
    gone on for so extremely long, there is no more excuse for it. It is an
    _open rebellion_ against the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, an usurpation and
    a scam. Rabbinical Judaism is a scam, and is part of organized crime
    within the Jewish Nation (as defined by the standard of the Torah, not
    by any gentile rules or laws, which I assume they are following better
    than the gentiles themselves).

    These are the complaints: Rambam Shemita (one of his books),
    10:8. Obviously this is a fraud. The Jubilee is not nullified, the Jubilee
    does _not_ require all Jewish people to live in the same Nation. It simply said: the Jubilee is declared for all to know that it is happening. It
    is also not supposed to happen anyway, that the Jewish Nation split in
    two, and therefore it is fraudulent to ascribe to this event the power
    to make law. A precedent does not set the highest law in the Torah.

    Prozbul. This vile device made up by the criminal known as "Hillel the
    Elder" does not deserve to even be explained. If you are in favor of it,
    you are admitting to yourself and the world that you oppose the Torah.

    Heter iska. A fraud made up by Rambam / Maimonides.

    You pretend the day ends when the sun goes down and you see 3 stars,
    but a day is naturally defined as going from night sleep to night
    sleep. The rest day is a complete _day,_ not half a day here and half
    a day there. You have broken the Shabbos itself.

    With these activities, you have precisely cut out the Torah economy: land
    (your worst crime) finance (also a significant crime), and the Shabbos
    (you probably know how big of a crime this is in the Torah, since it
    carries the death penalty in the Torah to just break it yourself, but
    you have broken it for all and forever).

    If you do not lend money _to your brother_ as you should under the rules
    of the Torah, than it can be argued that you are apparently defining
    yourself as _not a brother_ (not part of Israel, even). If you lie about
    the Torah law of the Jubilee, as you have done for 21+ centuries, then
    you declare that you are against the most basic mechanism which makes
    _the promised land_ into exactly that: the _land_ that was promised,
    and is supposed to be kept in ownership by all, so that you can have a balanced, fair and stable economy (which you have overthrown). You are
    then not only _not a brother_ by your own choice, you also lost the right
    to exist in _the promised land_ because you _broke_ that very promise
    (which is the Jubilee).

    Since the Torah has the death penalty over breaking the Shabbos even as a simple person committing an act, all the Rabbis of Israel and including
    this so-called Chief Rabbi of Israel (with his fancy dress to prance
    around in and pretend to be the big shot without caring for the Torah),
    there would have to be an even greater punishment for ruining the Shabbos
    for everyone by law, and pretending that this breaking of the Torah
    was keeping the Torah, and thus you are trying to confuse and misdirect
    and pull into your crimes those who have little understanding but try
    to be good. You are guilty of destroying the principle of the Shabbos,
    which goes far beyond just breaking one single Shabbos by behaving in
    an incorrect manner (such as doing hard labor on the 7th day).

    To summarize: You are declaring yourself to be _not brothers_
    (implicitly), which then starts to mean you are gentiles and not part of
    Israel as a Nation anymore (!) or you are part of these people who where
    left in Egypt even though they where born Jewish (since they where not
    part of Sinaii and receiving the Torah). It says though that God started
    to love Israel in the desert (IIRC), and this is the Israel who turned to
    the Torah. By ruining the Torah, you step outside of this circle in some
    way. You are unfit to live in the _promised land_ (Eretz Israel) by the
    rules of the Torah (see also the curses section, obviously). You are under
    a death penalty of a severe kind, for ruining the Shabbos for everyone.

    It is however even worse, because of the Sun idol the house of Hillel
    (which the Rabbis are following) have put on the 2nd temple, called
    Lamp of Helena. This also has the death penalty in the Torah (spare me
    the lies that it was not an idol, I already know the arguments but they
    are phony because these are sensitive topics and you could have put that
    Sun reflector anywhere else but on the inner building of the Temple if
    you needed another indicator that it was a new day besides the Sun itself.

    Because you not only did all these crimes, but also refuse to listen to
    the rebuke, there seems to be no choice within the logic of the Torah,
    that the next round of punishment must come, which will have to be 7
    times worse than the last punishment. The obvious last punishment of
    the Jewish Nation was the Nazi holocaust. This is what you are doing
    with and for your people: causing exile, and causing mass death. For
    these reasons I ask you to step down permanently, and with you _all_ the
    fake Rabbis of Israel. I suggest you don sackcloth and ashes and sit on
    the ground, to mourn the evil you have been part off and the misery and
    death that you have caused for so many people and so many generations,
    from the start of the current exile until today, and the many lies you
    have spread about the Torah, and how you have defiled the Torah with this behavior. How you turned Israel from being at the head of the Nations,
    to being at the tail, from being honored to being hated, from having
    a prosperous life to never finding a reliable settlement for long. You
    can teach Israel about the evils you have committed, so that the whole
    Nation of Israel can learn and come back to the Torah and the truth,
    and then perhaps we will see the Redemption finally happen, because you
    - the Rabbis who are the criminals without probably even realizing it
    for the most part - have been overthrown and you have finally decided
    to stop lying about the Torah. Who knows, you might even be allowed
    to come back to be considered part of Israel and can even live there,
    although I'm not sure that this is possible after so many centuries of
    horror that the Rabbis have caused. Perhaps it is better that you now
    go back to Egypt, and go yourselves into the exile that you have caused,
    and leave the few and the honest to make the Redemption happen.

    I suspect you will not head this message, because criminals do not
    ordinarily listen to words. Unfortunately for the scam that is Rabbinical Judaism, there are powers in existence who can deal with you also,
    or at least so we read in the Torah. If you let heaven take care of
    these things, it seems to me that given the severity of the next round
    of punishment, not many of you are likely to survive it, and that even
    goes for the entirety of Israel.

    You thought you knew better than the Torah. Your rebellious innovations
    have caused so much harm, it is beyond human comprehension. You failed
    to inspire humanity to be good, because you failed to want to listen to
    your Torah. You had the solution in your hand, but you where proud and mindless. If these words upset you, big mistake. I am giving you the
    help you need. I am not killing anyone. If you don't listen though, it
    seems to be the logic of the Torah that you will probably not survive,
    or if you do that you will have to suffer the death of almost everyone
    around you. The truth is, you are a fraudulent people, you are proud,
    hard necked, and dishonest about the Torah. Never mind the gentiles, this
    is not about you versus them. This is about humanity versus the truth,
    versus the needs of Peace & Justice. Israel seems to be the closest to
    this truth, which means that if even you fail, then all fail. Of course
    I would call the gentiles even worse names, that is not the point. You
    are supposed to be the fix, the medicine, but you are refusing your
    job. Stop acting like criminals or lunatics, stop lying about the Torah,
    while you are still alive, or are you such heretics at this point that
    being objectively wrong and fraudulent with the Torah has no meaning
    for you anymore, and you don't think there will be any consequences for
    such activities.

    * End reply.

    Continuing on Usenet. Now the scheming and power hungry probably think
    that this is an usurpation of power. If they step down, than that
    implicitly means that I (undersigned) step up. There is a certain
    element of truth in that, because if they did heed the message (I think essentially 0% chance), then that is proof that "what I said" is being
    done, and "what they said" is not being done anymore. At a basic level
    that means I have usurped that power.

    While that may be true, the case is that *if* I personally usurp this
    power, then that comes to mean that is happening what I say. Normally
    that doesn't mean much, because most people with power don't write
    extensive Constitutions and implementation plans. In this case however,
    that is precisely what I am saying I want to see done. Doesn't that then
    mean the same, whatever he says will be done ?

    In a sort of most crude sense, that is still true. However if you looked
    into the content of this plan exactly (see signature), then this plan
    defines precisely who will be in charge of what, and these persons are
    not me. These persons are you.

    I have also thought many times already, that in order for this plan to
    work, if crude and childish people think I personally now have the power
    and their idolatry tells them to listen to me, then I need to create a
    void, so that the system can be what it is supposed to be: you making
    the decisions. Making decisions for a child sounds like a lot of fun,
    but it should be realized that making decent decisions on a political
    level is also a serious job, which requires work. The decision is a
    product, which has a certain quality to it. To make good decisions is
    not necessarily easy, or fun to do. A child believes this is about
    getting your way, to get your hand in the cookie jar first. While this
    may be the way of many of the Kings of old, who simply put some advisor
    on a difficult topic and then later killed them when it went wrong, this
    is not what "having power" is going to mean (or should mean) in this system.

    It is also designed in such a way to reduce bribery, mainly by
    shattering the excessive wealth imbalance which you get from incorrect
    economic systems (such as Capitalism or Communism or Feudalism). A child
    thinks it is a lot of fun to have the power, because he imagines this is
    about who decides what to do next and then they can follow their own
    whims of the moment. Having power in a political sense, is going to be
    about a lot of talking and thinking, it is going to be a
    political-social process. It is going to be a part of hopefully a
    significant amount of adults.

    The point is: I don't even necessarily want or need that power. This
    whole scare people have with someone taking the power, I wonder if you
    really know what you are saying. If it concerns someone who would want
    to do a good job, to give someone like that all the power, this is a
    crushing responsibility, and a job so vast it is impossible to do right
    all by yourself.

    Incidentally, also the head of State position (or King if you want), is
    already set up, and this is _also_ not me. All functions are not me, get
    it ? I don't even want to go to your desert place. You can do things
    right over there, and then I'll stay here in the Netherlands and do some
    bike riding and go playing and gardening, and hope that my people will
    also learn more about economics eventually, so that we get things right
    here as well eventually. You become a tool, to fix my Nation, because
    these people here don't listen either. You also don't listen, but at
    least you have your Torah, and they do not have that in the way you do.

    You could argue that I simply want the world to be what it more or less
    should be for now, you giving the example, and we here trying to spread
    your example and causing good things to happen for our people. That is
    my job then, just like the job of everyone else I guess, to just try to
    be a good person where you are.

    That is the plan, if you have any fears (which are fears I understand
    and agree with, by the way). However it is unavoidable that if you
    propose democracy for example, you still need to be a person to do that. Doesn't that make you the King then ? I see the problem, but I don't
    think it has to work that way. The person who made up our current model
    also did not become the King. He was an advisor (IIRC, this is about the
    events around 1848).

    You do you over there, and that makes it yours. By doing it, you earn
    it, you learn it. Didn't you say you yearn for the Redemption ? Then
    earn it and learn it ;-). Is this the Redemption ? I don't know, but
    Rambam certainly is not the Redemption, and never will be. It is
    inexcusable to overthrow the Jubilee, there is no hope left after that.
    Is the Torah then not the Redemption, why do we need this "market
    socialism" plan ? If you just did the Torah, it would probably be fine.
    The program I made is an *example* of a 4 point economy, but the most
    important part is probably still the distribution of land for all.
    Second most is probably the State described there. If you are incapable
    of having 'prophets' then you don't have a State at all within the
    system of the Torah, because it will be corrupt. Then comes probably the finance part and the distribution of power within companies, but these
    last two can be solved if you are strong enough in your buying
    preferences (I suppose).

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    with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl

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