• Elon Musk (a Trump gangster) made a Nazi salute in public ...

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 22:59:37 2025
    title: Musk raises controversy with gesture resembing Nazi salute - BBC Africa source: BBC News Africa
    link: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iCajgbvjwHo
    (256K views)

    More evidence how the US ruling class is loosing its grip on reality ?
    It is not debatable what this is, certainly not by someone who is in a
    Cabinet position in something as large (and therefore supposed to be as serious) as the USA (half a Continent 'homeland Empire' and then a
    global Empire of client states attached to it, including the Zionist
    rebel State, NATO, the EU and many others, as well as the overarching
    United Nations global Empire system they set up). The question is not
    what this is, but why did they (he) do it.

    Personally I am wondering if the ruling class is showing signs of destabilizing, and not managing to copy over the Hitler plan as much as
    they would like. When Hitler and Mussolini came to power, there was no
    (recent) precedent with the salute they chose. They chose a salute from
    ancient Rome it seems, and adapted it for their own uses ? They
    innovated this gesture, which was at the time not associated with the
    extreme evil and bloodshed for which the Nazis later became known.

    While the USA ruling class may find it completely normal to be united
    with Nazis and the Nazi ideology, comfortable with their succesful
    financing of the original Nazis and then having these cliques (Bush
    crime family) rise also to political power (grandfather Bush helped
    finance Hitler and was convicted for it), while doing the same again in
    2014 in Kiev Ukraine to start World War 3, the ordinary people (not in
    the least in the USA itself) do at least not explicitly share the
    symbols and cultural expressions of the Nazis, but are under the
    impression that they fought against the Nazis and stand against an
    ideology such as Fascism / Naziism as a people. While this is probably
    not true if you look at the essence of what the USA is doing (the wars
    for loot, the torturing, the pretending to be the master race /
    'indespensible Nation' etc), the ordinary American pretends that they
    are different. The difference then may be in things like symbols and
    gestures, but for many ignorant people these empty shells are what they
    live for and believe in. Are the explicit Nazi / white supremacist
    groups so large in the USA, that it is useful to appeal to them ? This
    seems doubtful. The whole thing seems to cut directly against the grain
    of USA Imperial propaganda, where they pretend that they came to bring
    freedom to people, peace and justice, etc. Hence I don't see the benefit
    of making a Nazi salute ? What is the benefit.

    At least this supposedly Jewish source, seems to be now in the camp of
    the Nazis themselves, by denying it was a Nazi salute. They are also implicating the ADL (anti defamation league) in denying that this is a
    Nazi salute.

    https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/elon-musk-nazi-salute-trump-azmk3wzy

    There might be reason to deny what this gesture may have meant, if all
    the other staples of Fascism (or say gangsterism, criminality) where not
    there, such as: Trump saying that he "feels great about torture" (which
    in my opinion mean he is politically responsible for the US torture
    industry, and should therefore be captured and probably get a life
    sentence). Trump is strongly supportive of the worst elements in the
    economy, which are the Billionaires. As has been said, you can only be a Billionaire in this world, if you have no morality. Trump is rude in his behavior (which is going to negatively impact all forms of behavior in
    the USA, and make debating and therefore democracy function even less
    well). Trump saying things like you have to take revenge at an extreme
    rate, strongly supporting of the Imperial US Army (which is organized
    crime, killing for profit over the whole world), his scamming and
    volatle nature, repeating well known Fascist slogans like better to live
    a day like a lion than a hundred years as a sheep (or somesuch), the
    emptyness of his rethoric (I can't stand it, it is such a complete waste
    of time to listen to this individual), his narcicism and self worship, obsession with the national flag, ultra nationalism, on and on, all
    these and undoubtedly much more (it seems endless) are the staples of
    Fascism and Naziism. Trump is a Fascist, quite probably also a Nazi,
    they are into dictatorship and rule by violence. Essentially they are criminals, who wish to rule by terror and fear, to act out their
    volatile nature without any restrictions either by laws or any kind of
    wisdom.

    Within this seething mess, for a top operative of the Trump gang
    himself a Billionaire apparently, to give a strong Nazi salute (to the
    heart and then out with the arm, even making a sound to underscore it),
    it can only mean one thing: they are Nazi-Fascists (that much was
    already obvious), and perhaps more interestingly, they are not shy to
    hide it anymore either.

    Which leaves another question: why are significant Jewish organizations
    on the side of Nazi Fascism ? We know that the Zionist Rebel State,
    which has been set up by the rich within Israel and which is now a
    client state of the USA, is probably run by criminals who may also
    sympathise strongly with Fascism in a general sense. This idea is at
    least underscored by the events of "October 7", which seem to show how
    the Israeli Army wanted this event to occur and have a large amount of
    civilian casualties and victims, because how could it take them so long
    to arrive at the front ? It seems the top is rotten, they wanted the
    war. The war works together with the other war in Ukraine now, likely
    serving as a defense mechanism for the ruling class, with the debt
    crisis implosion ever looming large and larger ...

    If the Zionist Rebel State is in the top run by Fascistic criminal
    elements allied with the US global Empire of lies and war, then if other significant Jewish organizations are lockstep (heh) with this Fascism,
    this would not come as too much of a surprise.

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    (I might add, that I shed a few tears when I discovered about this Nazi
    salute by E.Musk, Trump / Fascism operator. It was emotional to see the
    Nazis come back into power this way, knowing what they will likely end
    up doing. Greggory Mannarino (youtube) believes the Trump group is
    tasked with "bridging" the current system into a new system, which may
    be about digital central bank currencies, and they may also inflict
    great amount of casualties upon the people of the Earth iirc. I think
    this is probably quite accurate !)

    Who could have thought after World War 2 and so much Jewish effort for
    the labor unions and some democracy and rights for people (political
    left, when it still meant something), that serious Jewish organizations
    of influence would be siding with Nazis, and how many Jewish people seem
    to openly support a new Fascist-Nazi style dictator such as Trump ? This
    would have been so unthinkable, that to say it out loud it may have
    resulted in you getting a slap in the face and an angry look. Now, they
    think it's normal, apparently. This mess thinks they will be Redeemed
    soon, by 'moshiach' lol. What a joke, isn't it.

    Unbelievable what a mess. I even have heard here of a secular Jew, who
    lives here in my city known to someone I know, who supports Trump (!).
    How can this exist ? What is wrong with you people ?! Have you lost all
    sense of civilization ? I wonder if all this is going to force yet
    another split within Israel, since it is unlikely that these Fascists in
    the USA will unite people in a broad way. Fascists typically do the
    opposite: they Divide and then spread hate, hysteria and violence.

    Now the people are surprised ? Who have said over and over again (others
    and also me), how USA has financed Nazis in Kiev, and that Trump is a
    Fascist ? Now some people are surprised, when they see Nazi salutes
    coming out of the Trump white house ? When where you going to finally
    see the evil for what it is ? Going along to get along, pretending
    everything is fine and someone else can fix it for you ?

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