• Not Redemption but war & disaster are Israel's earnings.

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 08:43:25 2025
    title: IT HAS BEGUN..
    source: The Torah Channel
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFFf-0Nxpgc

    Reply ...

    Personally, I think Israel should not be Redeemed anymore soon. The
    betrayal of the Torah by the Rabbis and their following is too extreme
    and has gone on for too long, and the whole people of Israel are such a
    mess that there seems to be only one way forward: disaster and perhaps dissipation / near extinction. You made your choices, you deserve to see
    what will be the result I guess. You destroyed yourself, and ruined the Redemption for now it seems. You are already too late, since it seems
    to be the year 6 005 (430 years in Egypt, remember ?). The Sjemot was
    also a period of massive disasters.

    While those disasters may have come anyway for Egypt, it's a thought I
    guess that if the Jewish people had not rebelled against Moshe Rabbeinu
    and heaven but did the right thing, they could already have been out
    at the 400 years mark and then be kept safe in Eretz Yisroel while the
    world around them burned down. Perhaps this is a similar moment, but
    now the fire is created by humanity themselves (global nuke war). If you
    had done the Redemption already, perhaps you could have been safe as the
    world collapsed from its own evil. Now it seems, you will be part of the
    fire ... and that disaster may become a sort of catalyst for hopefully at
    least a small amount of Jewish people to make the Redemption happen. All
    this thanks to the Rabbis and their overthrowing of the Torah, all for
    nothing, all for money, their own pride and their ignorance, nothing of
    it has any meaning.

    * End reply.

    I was just thinking, I don't even want these people to Redeem themselves anymore at this point, because it is completely unbelievable that they
    can be honest after all this trying and their rejection of the truth for
    so long. They *should* not even be Redeemed anymore, unless perhaps if
    they tried their absolute hardest to do Teshuvah for following Hillel
    and Rambam.

    Immediately distribute the soil to all, and fight for it to the death.

    Expose the fraud of the prozbul and the lying Rabbis of Israel as the
    criminals (under Torah law) that they are.

    Etc etc. This they will very unlikely do, mostly because they just don't
    seem to care, and the few who seem to care about the Torah seem to be completely lost in Rabbinical blablablablablah. Perhaps it is even going
    to take the form that anyone who has followed Rabbinical Judaism will *therefore* not be part of the Redemption, and it will all go to the
    Kairites, to a few special Kibbutzim who did honor the Jubilee on land,
    and a few selected persons who fought hard against the Rabbis even
    though they had been born in families of fools who follow Hillel and
    Rambam.

    It just is not likely to happen, although the chance increases the more
    bombs are falling upon Eretz Yisroel.

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    In terms of the program I am proposing, of course also nothing changed,
    but it may be good also to focus on a Minyan (group of 10), of course to distribute the soil and understand why this is necessary (which will
    then show how the Rabbis are criminals, how Rambam is a criminal), etc.
    You should also get fit, get supplies in your house, and get armed if
    you can; but I would do all that within the context of normal life and
    not go too far with it. You can easily achieve this to a degree, without
    almost changing anything in your life.

    Your life doesn't radically change if you did some excercizes for
    strength, if you joined the Minyan regularly (because a group of 10 who
    can at least be peaceful together is the bases of the State I would
    propose is the most democratic system possible - yes also there will be
    a King for you, sigh) etc etc.

    You don't believe it anyway right now, so why would I even continue. You
    don't care one way or the other, not for the Torah, not for science, not
    for what's right, you just like to revel in your own obstinacy and
    ignorance and you think that this makes you good, when it is what keeps
    you in exile and which has now prevented Israel from setting the world
    right before this time of increased high technological dangers.

    Maybe it is even like with the Pharao, but now the Rabbis and their
    following are in that role of the Pharao. *Their* heart is hardened so
    that they became deaf and mindless, to continue on the disastrous course
    they have long since decided upon, so that they will be forced into the
    end result which they have created with the guilt of so many centuries
    of breaking the Torah. Since the Torah says that heaven will again do
    great miracles in the end, and it was said about Egypt (if I recall)
    that the heart of the Pharao was hardened so that Hashem could conduct
    his miracles and show his power (I assume, to make people understand
    that heaven has all the power and humans have none except about if they
    want to be good or bad I guess), then perhaps there is a similarity here
    again.

    The Rabbis and their following would then be in the role of the anti
    forces, but this also is similar to Egypt and the Sjemot, because (as
    far as I understood it) the vast majority of Israel did not follow Moshe Rabbeinu out of Egypt, and therefore ultimately where with the Pharao
    (although the official powers of Israel apparently did favor Moshe
    Rabbeinu, when he came back later after Israel already had chosen for
    Egypt and the criminals over there, to side with them even against
    themselves as they where abused by them). From this mess then, a
    minority escaped and made it eventually, although they still all needed
    to die once in the desert except for very few, and heaven judged them
    all as being incapable in the end (which is perhaps what we see coming
    to fruition today).

    The few who get over the Rabbis and their frauds, would then have that
    honor and proof that they care for the truth, and are willing to
    struggle for it (hopefully not violently, but we shall see) even against
    their own people - which is a thing that also has a strong precedent in
    the Torah (all over the place I guess). This could mean that there is no
    hope for Israel to in general turn to the truth now, if they are
    literally forced to fall into their own sword, perhaps both as a
    punishment for what they have done over the last 21 centuries (or
    worse), and perhaps because they don't want to change anyway. Perhaps it
    is also a scheme to make sure they do not enter the Redemption
    accidentally, as fakers or shallow people who make a quick choice for
    the moment to survive or fit in, but who will ultimately again blow up
    the Redemption from the inside (such as Hillel and Rambam did).

    We shall see I guess, but I don't think there is any hope left for the
    short term, and perhaps there even *should not be* any more hope for
    this people in general to make it in an easy way, as that will fail one
    way or the other. To Redeem these Rabbinical followers might be the
    biggest disaster possible for the future of the Redemption, since they
    will then probably blow it up from the inside all over again.

    I guess (heh, again) we can only guess what is being set up by heaven
    exactly and why, but perhaps it is a scheme which has flavors of these
    kinds of ideas (which are part of the Tanach after all, I didn't make it
    up in that sense).

    (It doesn't have anything to do with the video or the war it may be
    talking about (I didn't see the video for more than a few seconds), but
    it was fitting the theme that apparently Israel will be thrown into a
    war again of some kind, or at least that is a threat now ? This is of
    course completely expected, as the world is in the opening phases of
    World War 3, which will almost certainly become a global nuclear war).

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