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    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 9 00:49:55 2023
    XPost: alt.religion.bahai, talk.religion.bahai, talk.religion.misc
    XPost: alt.religion, alt.religion.islam

    Today (July 9, 2023) is the 173rd anniversary of the
    Martyrdom of the Bab.

    It is also Call of the Horizon Day.

    I have begun another attempt at magickally instigating a new
    age (but you could look at it as a complicated prayer in
    which I have done much of the groundwork) and am reporting
    on it on the thread "coverage stronger by belief" on
    alt.religion.druid .

    However I do not believe that Mohammed, Nanak, and the
    Baha'u'llah were avatar types but that they were Prophet/Guru/Missionary/Founder types like Abraham and Paul.

    But I think that Muslims consider Jesus, Moses, and Jacob
    to be important figures, and I think they were avatar types,
    so Muslims will be covered by their popthrough hcp subs at
    belief strength.

    And Baha'i consider Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Moses,
    and Jesus to be important figures, and I think they
    were avatar types, so Baha'i will be covered by
    their popthrough hcp subs at belief strength.

    Also deceased Founder types are capable of "rubber
    stamping" individual healing circle prescriptions,
    and those ordained to priest level or equivalent but
    not higher are now capable of meditatively reading such
    "rubber stamping" e.g. by Mohammed or the Baha'u'llah.
    However note that the healing circle prescriptions
    are now evolving and may not converge for a few
    days, and the "rubber stamping" likewise may take
    a little time.

    But Baha'i have no priests, so the ones with confession
    divination ability (capable of reading "rubber stamping"
    and also what portion a given popthrough contributes
    to a healing circle prescription) are the members of
    Local Spiritual Assemblies as of 0219 UTC July 9, 2023,
    not anyone who gains such status in the future.

    Anyway, this is probably another Sisyphean moon rock
    rolling attempt doomed to failure again.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
    This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
    Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sun Jul 9 08:23:38 2023
    XPost: alt.religion.bahai, talk.religion.bahai, talk.religion.misc
    XPost: alt.religion, alt.religion.islam

    In article <dalton-5B7B89.00495509072023@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    Today (July 9, 2023) is the 173rd anniversary of the
    Martyrdom of the Bab.

    It is also Call of the Horizon Day.

    I have begun another attempt at magickally instigating a new
    age (but you could look at it as a complicated prayer in
    which I have done much of the groundwork) and am reporting
    on it on the thread "coverage stronger by belief" on
    alt.religion.druid .

    However I do not believe that Mohammed, Nanak, and the
    Baha'u'llah were avatar types but that they were Prophet/Guru/Missionary/Founder types like Abraham and Paul.

    But I think that Muslims consider Jesus, Moses, and Jacob
    to be important figures, and I think they were avatar types,
    so Muslims will be covered by their popthrough hcp subs at
    belief strength.

    And Baha'i consider Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Moses,
    and Jesus to be important figures, and I think they
    were avatar types, so Baha'i will be covered by
    their popthrough hcp subs at belief strength.

    Also deceased Founder types are capable of "rubber
    stamping" individual healing circle prescriptions,
    and those ordained to priest level or equivalent but
    not higher are now capable of meditatively reading such
    "rubber stamping" e.g. by Mohammed or the Baha'u'llah.
    However note that the healing circle prescriptions
    are now evolving and may not converge for a few
    days, and the "rubber stamping" likewise may take
    a little time.

    But Baha'i have no priests, so the ones with confession
    divination ability (capable of reading "rubber stamping"
    and also what portion a given popthrough contributes
    to a healing circle prescription) are the members of
    Local Spiritual Assemblies as of 0219 UTC July 9, 2023,
    not anyone who gains such status in the future.

    Anyway, this is probably another Sisyphean moon rock
    rolling attempt doomed to failure again.

    Note that among assisted shaktipat recipients (a.s.r.), who
    are all now secondary avatar types, I have included all
    those who are minor good or better as defined by
    Goddess who are ordained by human or humans to bishop
    level or equivalent or higher. But Baha'i do not
    have ordination. So it seems that members who
    were minor good or better of the Universal House of Justice
    and of National Spiritual Assemblies as of 0421 UTC May 10, 2023
    (not any who gain such role in the future) are a.s.r.
    Also, any Baha'i who was "ordained" by at least one of
    my eight main deities as of then is an a.s.r. (that
    does not require worship of the "ordainer[s]", many
    atheists are so "ordained").

    For Muslim readers, I define equivalent to bishop level
    as the lowest level able to ordain to level[s] below
    him or her.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
    This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
    Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

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