• Misguided

    From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 25 06:39:25 2022
    В настървението си срещу Русия отново забравят за Китай,
    а Китай със сигурност чака да види как ще завърши всичко,
    след което ще си "прибере" Тайван...

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 25 05:20:18 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Feb 25 17:25:46 2022
    On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 05:20:18 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:


    Ти си този, който "забравя за Китай". Нали в съседната тема ни каза, че
    всичко това било за съдбата на Украйна (за която ти не се интересуваш)?
    Сега изведнъж се сети за Китай.

    Нещо си се объркал: винаги съм казвал че проблемът е Китай,
    а не Русия и че този проблем се подминава, че и подсилва,
    от години и не само от САЩ но и от Европа. Само Тръмп нещо
    опита, но го "освиркаха"..

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 25 11:02:03 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Feb 25 21:20:31 2022
    On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:02:03 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 12:25:47 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 05:20:18 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:


    Ти си този, който "забравя за Китай". Нали в съседната тема ни каза, че
    всичко това било за съдбата на Украйна (за която ти не се интересуваш)?
    Сега изведнъж се сети за Китай.
    Нещо си се объркал: винаги съм казвал че проблемът е Китай,
    а не Русия и че този проблем се подминава, че и подсилва,
    от години и не само от САЩ но и от Европа. Само Тръмп нещо
    опита, но го "освиркаха"..

    Китай и Русия играят в един отбор, нещо, което ти не виждаш.
    Не са само те там. Ердоган играе там. Аятоласите играят там.

    Не са баш ортаци както са Запада, при тия всеки играе за себе си
    като осланянето им един на друг е само по подразбиране и ефимерно
    по същност.
    А че Запада тикна Русия към Китай ням съмнение.

    Тръмп наистина заслужава заслуга да им каже право в очите, че краля е гол.

    Тръмп беше много полезен за САЩ.

    потърси изказванията на Джон Кери из тези дни

    Четох го вчера или завчера, тоя е съвсем откачил и мисля че събира
    кураж за да се кандидатира отново.

    където решението на проблема с наркоманите (да дадем един конкретен пример) е да
    им раздадем безплатни наркотици и да им осигурим места, където да си ги бият.

    В Канада, във Ванкувър има едно такова место - кочина пълна с престъпност.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 28 17:58:01 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Mar 1 02:43:00 2022
    On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:58:01 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:20:19 AM UTC-5, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    ...
    Вчера за пореден път Байдън доказа, че няма абсолютно
    никакъв интерес към Украйна или изобщо към която и да е от тези страни.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10555913/NIALL-FERGUSON-Biden-betrayed-Afghans-Taliban-hes-thrown-Ukraine-wolves.html

    "but the Biden administration slowed deliveries of arms to Kyiv."

    Това е доста глупаво да си го мисли някой че е могло да стане.


    "Second, the EU and US seem likely to impose the sanctions that
    cost themselves the least, and therefore hurt Putin the least."

    Естествено, че кой луд иска да го боли много!? А сега в пандемията
    и с инфлацията ще боли много. То нали затова моментът е избран.


    "Already, Putin is reminding the West of the old reality that
    only ‘tactical’ nuclear missiles could credibly check Russian
    conventional forces in case of a full-scale war"

    Русия не е Япония през 1945..


    "raises the probability that China will seek a similar triumph
    by invading Taiwan"

    Това не е probability, това е certainty.


    A колко беше лесно да не се стига до тука - една дума само че
    Украйна ще е извън НАТО и демилитаризирана и този предтекс
    нямаше да го има.
    Ама когато си навлечеш бедите сам най-боли..

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to chorbalan on Tue Mar 1 05:12:25 2022
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 02:43:00 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

    A колко беше лесно да не се стига до тука - една дума само че Украйна ще
    е извън НАТО и демилитаризирана и този предтекс нямаше да го има.
    Ама когато си навлечеш бедите сам най-боли..

    :)

    помниш ли думите на столтенберг -- „искат по-малко нато на границите си,
    ще получат повече нато“ (цитирам по памет).

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 1 10:39:42 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Mar 1 22:42:46 2022
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 10:39:42 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Представи си какво щеше да стане ако Украйна беше напълно разоръжена
    сега (вместо САЩ и ЕС просто да блокират въоръжаването й, като беше
    до преди два месеца).

    Каквото ще стане и сега, но с по-малко зор и жертви.

    Накрая Украйна ще спечели едно бързо влизане в ЕС, щото
    това е страна на положението на България от 90-те години.

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Wed Mar 2 04:55:40 2022
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:09:48 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Накрая Украйна ще спечели едно бързо влизане в ЕС, щото това е страна на
    положението на България от 90-те години.

    Това може да стане само ако Украйна удържи поне един месец,

    И да не удържи пак ще стане. Естествено Донбас няма да е вече там,
    ама той и сега не е.

    дари гръбнак на Европа. Да видим дали Европа ще го запази или ще го прахоса.

    Като ги заболи от санкциите и ще го загубят набързо.

    Икономически и ние ще изпатим, за жалост...

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Wed Mar 2 18:51:02 2022
    On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 08:53:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 11:55:41 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:09:48 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Накрая Украйна ще спечели едно бързо влизане в ЕС, щото това е страна на
    положението на България от 90-те години. >> >
    Това може да стане само ако Украйна удържи поне един месец,
    И да не удържи пак ще стане.

    Не, няма как да стане ако не могат да удържат поне 30 дена. Следващите 3 навярно ще решат изхода.

    Що няма да стане? Мислиш че Украйна изцяло ще изгуби независимостта си?


    Естествено Донбас няма да е вече там, ама той и сега не е.
    дари гръбнак на Европа. Да видим дали Европа ще го запази или ще го прахоса.
    Като ги заболи от санкциите и ще го загубят набързо.

    Дали?

    Ми ще видим. От поне 20 години са меки китки и цяло едно ново поколение
    израстна така..


    Икономически и ние ще изпатим, за жалост...

    Несъмнено.

    ...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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