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    From Tala Sym@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 29 02:17:59 2022
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Tala Sym on Tue Mar 29 10:19:57 2022
    On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 02:17:59 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

    За момент ще оставя настрана факта, че руската армия срива със земята
    цели ж.к. (от Люлин-ски/Младост-ки/Дружбенски/... тип) в Украйна (което
    си е военно престъпление)...

    Моя въпрос е защо руските военни напоследък все бомбардират болници?
    Така беше и в Сирия (с Алепу и др.), и сега пак в Украйна.
    Нали те уж са "добрите" и искат да ги посрещат като "освободители" с
    хляб, сол и китки?

    Какво пропускам, че не мога да разбера руските планове?

    че това може да не са вече болници? да не стане като с мините край одеса?

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Tala Sym on Tue Mar 29 16:31:37 2022
    On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 02:17:59 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

    За момент ще оставя настрана факта, че руската армия срива със земята цели ж.к. (от Люлин-ски/Младост-ки/Дружбенски/... тип) в Украйна (което с
    е военно престъпление)...

    Моя въпрос е защо руските военни напоследък все бомбардират болници? Така беше и в Сирия (с Алепу и др.), и сега пак в Украйна.
    Нали те уж са "добрите" и искат да ги посрещат като "освободители" с хляб, сол и китки?

    Какво пропускам, че не мога да разбера руските планове?

    Не пропускаш, правиш се на ударен...

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 12:51:53 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Mar 31 21:19:56 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 12:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:


    Ти нали беше на страната на нацистите? Прочие, кои са нацистите в тази война?

    Батальоът "Азов" например.

    А разбираш ли хората оправдаващи една война, която срина стотици жилищни
    блокове, изби хиляди цивилни, и прати 4 милиона души в изгнание?

    А какво ще кажеш за подклаждащите я?

    Аха, "ама вие защо биете негрите"?

    Всъщност да. Става дума за моралното право и за двойните стандарти.


    Защо трябваше да се подлъгва Украйна към война и защо войната се подклажда
    и в момента, след като Русия така или иначе ще получи това което иска като
    гаранции за сигурността си? Само се избиват един-друг заради американски
    и английски интереси..

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 14:48:22 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Apr 1 01:27:04 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Защо трябваше да се подлъгва Украйна към война

    Как са ги "подлъгали към война"? Да не би Украйна да е нападнала Русия? Що за
    глупости са това?

    Глупостите са от тебе. Русия 100 каза че няма да пусне нато повече в съседни
    страни, особено Украйна, ама запада подкокороса Украйана че имала право да
    избира. Е, избра.
    За Русия това е в отговор на заплаха от запада. Реална или не.


    и защо войната се подклажда
    и в момента,

    Защото на Запада най-сетне им светна, че Русия е във война с тях,
    а не просто с Украйна.

    Я па ти! Па западът я почна още от Костовската афера бе, сега му светнало!?
    Просто сега се усети че Русия не е тая от преди 25-30 години.

    В тази ситуация щеше да е пагубно _за тях самите_ да не подкрепят Украйна
    с каквото могат.

    Kaк точно?

    след като Русия така или иначе ще получи това което иска

    Дали?? Това, което Русия ще получи е нокаут удар право в чейнето.

    Още не знаеме.

    като
    гаранции за сигурността си? Само се избиват един-друг заради американски
    и английски интереси..

    Да бе, САЩ накарали Путин да се опита да превземе Украйна.

    Ми да. И UK.

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Tala Sym on Fri Apr 1 09:06:54 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 23:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:27:08 PM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Защо трябваше да се подлъгва Украйна към война

    Как са ги "подлъгали към война"? Да не би Украйна да е нападнала Русия? Що за
    глупости са това?
    Глупостите са от тебе. Русия 100 каза че няма да пусне нато повече в съседни
    страни, особено Украйна, ама запада подкокороса Украйана че имала право да
    избира. Е, избра.

    Ако съседа ти реши да се ожени за булка, 'дет ти не одобряваш ще ходиш ли да го млатиш? Ако отговорът е да, това престъпление ли е?
    или
    Ако съседа ти, ти каже че обзавеждането в твоята всекидневна не му харесва и ако не си смениш мебелировката, ще ти счупи канчето, как ще пос
    ъпиш? Ще му кажеш ли: "ОК спалнята си е твоя, вземи си я"?

    Ще прощаваш, тикво, ама старнението ти е грешно. По става така: ако съседът ми
    ме заплашва и е по-слаб със сигурност ще изяде ритника. Ако ми вдига шум от
    апартамента си и неще да се съобрази - също, в САЩ чрез полицията, а в Бг чрез
    директен ритник. И в двата случая само ако мога да му го дам или да платя на
    някого да го направи от мое име.

    Уж, си завършил ФМИ, би трябвало поне малко логика да си прихванал от това, което са ти преподали.

    Аз съм прихванал много. Затова недей се мъчи с мене да не се поакаш.

    Да бе, САЩ накарали Путин да се опита да превземе Украйна.
    Ми да. И UK.

    Съвсем истински житейски случай: Познато семейство (вече разведени -- слава Богу). Мъжът често млатеше женицата. Понякога дори пред нас, бли
    зки на семейството. Когато това се случеше пред нас, той винаги ни казваше: "Видяхте ли я какво ме накара да направя" (тя е избягала в спалнята
    и я чуваме да плаче). След като се разделиха, случайно срещнах жената и тя сподели, че като нямало хора наоколо и той я биел, след това се разп
    лаквал и казвал "Защо сега ме накара да направя така" и я молел да не го напуска.

    Е, и? Знам лично две жени които биха му счупили тиквата ако опита да ги бие,
    ама с тях едва ли щеше да посмее. Освен ако не е Планината(game of thrones)
    или нещо подобно.

    Чорбаланската теза, че Украйна е виновна за това, че Русия я напада много ми напомня това семейство.

    Ами битият почти винаги има вина - освен когато е попаднал в ситуацията
    съвсем ненадейно и случайно - като виждаш че ще ядеш кютека в твой
    интерес е да се съобразиш.
    Трябва да си много наивен за да прилагаш в международните отношения
    критериите за честност и справедливост с които ти и групата ти боравите.
    В крайна сметка силният винаги има право( даже и когато е най-демократичния
    в света).

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