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    From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 8 08:18:17 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Sep 8 15:50:55 2022
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "блокът на НАТО се разширява на изток, а Украйна получава съвременна военна техника"
    "руската армия губи своите боеспособни части, а населението се инвалидизира"

    https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-the-war/sankt-peterburg-predlaga-putin-da-bude-obvinen-durzhavna-izmyana

    Това би сложило край на войната което е добре, ама едва ли ще стане.
    А Украйна си получава техниката от доста време вече и - нищо.

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Sep 8 16:45:56 2022
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:51:04 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "блокът на НАТО се разширява на изток, а Украйна получава съвременна военна техника"
    "руската армия губи своите боеспособни части, а населението се инвалидизира"

    https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-the-war/sankt-peterburg-predlaga-putin-da-bude-obvinen-durzhavna-izmyana
    Това би сложило край на войната което е добре, ама едва ли ще стане.
    А Украйна си получава техниката от доста време вече и - нищо.

    Дали пък е нищо? Или пак да те препратя към видео клипове (от последните 2-3 дена)?

    Не, това е едностранчива пропаганда.


    От днешната преса:
    "Russian occupation authorities in Kupyansk said they would evacuate women and children from the strategic city
    as advancing Ukrainian forces stepped up strikes there."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-evacuates-occupied-area-as-ukraine-presses-offensive-in-east-11662634838

    И тия не чета по същата причина но то ще се разбере.

    Знаеш ли къде е Купянск и какво би се случило ако Русия го загуби?

    Не знам но ще видиме. Русия едва ли ще загуби ако не свалят Путин.

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Sep 9 17:09:12 2022
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 14:43:31 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 12:46:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:51:04 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "блокът на НАТО се разширява на изток, а Украйна получава съвременна военна техника"
    "руската армия губи своите боеспособни части, а населението се инвалидизира"

    https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-the-war/sankt-peterburg-predlaga-putin-da-bude-obvinen-durzhavna-izmyana
    Това би сложило край на войната което е добре, ама едва ли ще стане.
    А Украйна си получава техниката от доста време вече и - нищо.

    Дали пък е нищо? Или пак да те препратя към видео клипове (от последните 2-3 дена)?
    Не, това е едностранчива пропаганда.

    От днешната преса:
    "Russian occupation authorities in Kupyansk said they would evacuate women and children from the strategic city
    as advancing Ukrainian forces stepped up strikes there."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-evacuates-occupied-area-as-ukraine-presses-offensive-in-east-11662634838
    И тия не чета по същата причина но то ще се разбере.
    Знаеш ли къде е Купянск и какво би се случило ако Русия го загуби?
    Не знам но ще видиме. Русия едва ли ще загуби ако не свалят Путин.

    В Русия обикновено става обратното - военните провали водят до бунтове, преврати и революции.
    И този път ще е така. Между другото, ако Купянск наистина падне, или дори само бъде обсаден, целият
    северен фронт, на изток от Оскил (Изюм), ще се срине.

    At Kherson, the Ukrainian counter-offensive failed completely. However, the strike at Balakleya is going
    relatively well for Ukraine so far. The two defensive lines of the Russians turned out to be thinly saturated
    with heavy armaments, which appeared to have been sent elsewhere. At Balakleia there is no natural obstacle
    in front of the Russian positions, as was the Ingulentz river at Kherson, which had to be forced by pontoon
    bridges, which inevitably led to delay and heavy casualties. Finally, at Kherson the terrain through which
    the Ukrainians advanced was a flat and bare steppe, while at Balakleya it was a a bit more hilly and quite
    wooded, which was an obstacle that seriously affected the effectiveness of the Russian artillery.
    Balkleia himself is irrelevant in this case. However, if the Ukrainians manage to take Volkov Yar and then
    Kupyansk, then the entire Russian army group in Izyum, plus the main Russian artillery in the Kharkiv direction,
    will be under operational siege, and the Russians will have to withdraw them urgently. This will really be a
    serious victory for Ukraine, which I will also recognize as very important. However, so far this has not happened.
    The Ukrainian offensive has currently stalled. Both sides have begun moving reserves. A head-on collision is possible...

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Sun Sep 11 18:54:10 2022
    On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:34:52 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 4:36:00 AM UTC-7, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 5:43:33 PM UTC-4, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 12:46:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:51:04 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote: >> > > >> On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "блокът на НАТО се разширява на изток, а Украйна получава съвременна военна техника"
    "руската армия губи своите боеспособни части, а населението се инвалидизира"

    https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-the-war/sankt-peterburg-predlaga-putin-da-bude-obvinen-durzhavna-izmyana
    Това би сложило край на войната което е добре, ама едва ли ще стане.
    А Украйна си получава техниката от доста време вече и - нищо.

    Дали пък е нищо? Или пак да те препратя към видео клипове (от последните 2-3 дена)?
    Не, това е едностранчива пропаганда.

    От днешната преса:
    "Russian occupation authorities in Kupyansk said they would evacuate women and children from the strategic city
    as advancing Ukrainian forces stepped up strikes there."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-evacuates-occupied-area-as-ukraine-presses-offensive-in-east-11662634838
    И тия не чета по същата причина но то ще се разбере.
    Знаеш ли къде е Купянск и какво би се случило ако Русия го загуби?
    Не знам но ще видиме. Русия едва ли ще загуби ако не свалят Путин.
    В Русия обикновено става обратното - военните провали водят до бунтове, преврати и революции.
    И този път ще е така. Между другото, ако Купянск наистина падне,
    Купянск падна

    Денацификацията на Украйна продължава. Руснаците днес се оттеглят от Сватове. Оттам
    ще тръгне денацификация към Креминна, Рубижне, Северодонецк и Лисичанск. Да видим
    колко часа ще отнеме.

    Нацистите си ги приобшиха в армията, неще и дума.
    Да се надяваме че войната ще свърши скоро и без повече зор,
    а битият - бит, е...ият - - е..н.

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