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    From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 17:47:53 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Feb 6 10:02:12 2023
    On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 17:47:53 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Интересно мнение:

    https://www.segabg.com/category-observer/ti-bay-gano-zapada-li-si-ili-
    rusiya

    Пропуснат е обаче един интересен момент, който наблюдавам напоследък.
    Хората, които образно казано можем да наречем "русофили" и
    "консервативни", и които до преди 34 години наричаха себе си
    "прогресивни", до преди няколко години бяха големи туркофоби и изтъкваха
    нуждата от съюз с Русия за да ни спаси от неоосманска Турция. Та същите
    тези хора в последните години, и особено в последните месеци, открито
    сочат Турция, като пример за подражание, и страна с която трябва да сме
    в съюз. Превратностите на съдбата са изумителни.

    хапчетата, ивайло, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист.

    това, че имаме историческа обремененост от турция като наследник на
    османската империя не означава, че трябва да си затваряме очите за нейните
    постижения днес - примерно, че преди 30+ години внасяха електроенергия от
    нас, а сега се готвят да изнасят за нас.

    боравиш много произволно с термините и правиш изсмукани от пръстите си
    изводи - за това наблегни на хапчетата и прегледа при специалист.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 09:32:19 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Feb 6 21:19:45 2023
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:32:19 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:02:14 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 17:47:53 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Интересно мнение:

    https://www.segabg.com/category-observer/ti-bay-gano-zapada-li-si- ili-rusiya

    Пропуснат е обаче един интересен момент, който наблюдавам напоследък.
    Хората, които образно казано можем да наречем "русофили" и
    "консервативни", и които до преди 34 години наричаха себе си
    "прогресивни", до преди няколко години бяха големи туркофоби и
    изтъкваха нуждата от съюз с Русия за да ни спаси от неоосманска
    Турция. Та същите тези хора в последните години, и особено в
    последните месеци, открито сочат Турция, като пример за подражание, и
    страна с която трябва да сме в съюз. Превратностите на съдбата са
    изумителни.

    хапчетата, ивайло, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист.

    това, че имаме историческа обремененост от турция като наследник на
    османската империя не означава, че трябва да си затваряме очите за
    нейните постижения днес - примерно, че преди 30+ години внасяха
    електроенергия от нас, а сега се готвят да изнасят за нас.

    Преди 30 години заплатите в Турция бяха 2-3 пъти по-високи от
    българските. Днес не е почти обратното. Нещо подобно се наблюдава и с
    Унгария, друга страна често сочена за пример от същата група българи.
    Преди Орбан да дойде на власт средната заплата там беше $1000, a в
    България $350. Днес средната зплата там е $1250, а в България $900.

    умнико, само за заплатите ли имаш да кажеш нещо?

    забавно е да те гледа човек отстрани как се гърчиш.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 14:27:06 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Feb 6 23:10:20 2023
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:27:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:19:47 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:32:19 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:02:14 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 17:47:53 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Интересно мнение:

    https://www.segabg.com/category-observer/ti-bay-gano-zapada-li-si-
    ili-rusiya

    Пропуснат е обаче един интересен момент, който наблюдавам
    напоследък.

    Хората, които образно казано можем да наречем "русофили" и
    "консервативни", и които до преди 34 години наричаха себе си
    "прогресивни", до преди няколко години бяха големи туркофоби и
    изтъкваха нуждата от съюз с Русия за да ни спаси от неоосманска
    Турция. Та същите тези хора в последните години, и особено в
    последните месеци, открито сочат Турция, като пример за
    подражание, и страна с която трябва да сме в съюз. Превратностите
    на съдбата са изумителни.

    хапчетата, ивайло, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист.

    това, че имаме историческа обремененост от турция като наследник на
    османската империя не означава, че трябва да си затваряме очите за
    нейните постижения днес - примерно, че преди 30+ години внасяха
    електроенергия от нас, а сега се готвят да изнасят за нас.

    Преди 30 години заплатите в Турция бяха 2-3 пъти по-високи от
    българските. Днес не е почти обратното. Нещо подобно се наблюдава и с
    Унгария, друга страна често сочена за пример от същата група българи.
    Преди Орбан да дойде на власт средната заплата там беше $1000, a в
    България $350. Днес средната зплата там е $1250, а в България $900.

    умнико, само за заплатите ли имаш да кажеш нещо?

    Кое е най-важното, според теб?

    това, което съм ти посочил като пример е едно от важните неща.

    имаш ли идея какво може да произвежда турция? ако имаш, сравни го с това,
    което можем да произведем ние (ние, не вие).

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Feb 7 02:47:08 2023
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:27:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:19:47 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:32:19 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:02:14 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 17:47:53 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Интересно мнение:

    https://www.segabg.com/category-observer/ti-bay-gano-zapada-li-si-
    ili-rusiya

    Пропуснат е обаче един интересен момент, който наблюдавам напоследък.
    Хората, които образно казано можем да наречем "русофили" и
    "консервативни", и които до преди 34 години наричаха себе си
    "прогресивни", до преди няколко години бяха големи туркофоби и
    изтъкваха нуждата от съюз с Русия за да ни спаси от неоосманска
    Турция. Та същите тези хора в последните години, и особено в
    последните месеци, открито сочат Турция, като пример за подражание, и
    страна с която трябва да сме в съюз. Превратностите на съдбата са
    изумителни.

    хапчетата, ивайло, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист.

    това, че имаме историческа обремененост от турция като наследник на
    османската империя не означава, че трябва да си затваряме очите за
    нейните постижения днес - примерно, че преди 30+ години внасяха
    електроенергия от нас, а сега се готвят да изнасят за нас.

    Преди 30 години заплатите в Турция бяха 2-3 пъти по-високи от
    българските. Днес не е почти обратното. Нещо подобно се наблюдава и с
    Унгария, друга страна често сочена за пример от същата група българи.
    Преди Орбан да дойде на власт средната заплата там беше $1000, a в
    България $350. Днес средната зплата там е $1250, а в България $900.
    умнико, само за заплатите ли имаш да кажеш нещо?

    Кое е най-важното, според теб?

    Какво можеш да си купиш с нея?

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 18:48:52 2023
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 18:53:42 2023
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  • From Dimitar Gueorguiev@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 20:24:45 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Dimitar Gueorguiev on Tue Feb 7 05:42:01 2023
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 20:24:45 -0800 (PST), Dimitar Gueorguiev wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:53:43 PM UTC-5, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Какво толкова произвежда Турция?

    Турция е страна с авторитарно управление и с прилично развит туризъм
    доколкото знам. Колкото до промишленост и производство Мексико е
    значително по-напред от Турция.

    не се отплесвай - ивайло повдигна темата за турция и българия, мексико в
    нея е ирелевантен.

    вземи и ти си напиши домашното - задал съм го много ясно на ивайло.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Feb 7 05:40:46 2023
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 18:53:42 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:10:22 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:27:06 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:19:47 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:32:19 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 5:02:14 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 17:47:53 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Интересно мнение:

    https://www.segabg.com/category-observer/ti-bay-gano-zapada-li- si-ili-rusiya

    Пропуснат е обаче един интересен момент, който наблюдавам
    напоследък.

    Хората, които образно казано можем да наречем "русофили" и
    "консервативни", и които до преди 34 години наричаха себе си
    "прогресивни", до преди няколко години бяха големи туркофоби и
    изтъкваха нуждата от съюз с Русия за да ни спаси от неоосманска
    Турция. Та същите тези хора в последните години, и особено в
    последните месеци, открито сочат Турция, като пример за
    подражание, и страна с която трябва да сме в съюз.
    Превратностите на съдбата са изумителни.

    хапчетата, ивайло, хапчетата и прегледът при специалист.

    това, че имаме историческа обремененост от турция като наследник
    на османската империя не означава, че трябва да си затваряме
    очите за нейните постижения днес - примерно, че преди 30+ години
    внасяха електроенергия от нас, а сега се готвят да изнасят за
    нас.

    Преди 30 години заплатите в Турция бяха 2-3 пъти по-високи от
    българските. Днес не е почти обратното. Нещо подобно се наблюдава
    и с Унгария, друга страна често сочена за пример от същата група
    българи.

    Преди Орбан да дойде на власт средната заплата там беше $1000, a в
    България $350. Днес средната зплата там е $1250, а в България
    $900.

    умнико, само за заплатите ли имаш да кажеш нещо?

    Кое е най-важното, според теб?
    това, което съм ти посочил като пример е едно от важните неща.

    имаш ли идея какво може да произвежда турция? ако имаш, сравни го с
    това, което можем да произведем ние (ние, не вие).

    Българския износ - $33 милиарда ($4700 на човек), турския износ - $177
    милиарда ($2080 на човек).

    Какво толкова произвежда Турция?

    напиши си домашното, умнико.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Dimitar Gueorguiev on Tue Feb 7 08:22:24 2023
    On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 20:24:45 -0800 (PST), Dimitar Gueorguiev wrote:

    Колкото до промишленост и производство Мексико е
    значително по-напред от Турция.

    Глупости. На търкалета.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Wed Feb 8 18:10:12 2023
    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 09:29:05 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Не че България е чак толкова цъфнала и вързала след десетилетия
    управление от сбъркани хора, в последните 30 години избирани от народа.

    леле, да не започва да те гони нещо като соцносталгия?

    Но пък Турция е упралявана от геврекчия-ислямист с мегаломански амбиции
    и силно ограничено рационално мислене.

    и за това тя е на път да започне да внася в българия това, което доскоро
    ние изнасяхме за нея.

    написа ли си домашното? за човек с претенции би трябвало да си се справил
    досега.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 09:29:05 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Wed Feb 8 19:04:44 2023
    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 10:37:13 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:10:14 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 09:29:05 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Не че България е чак толкова цъфнала и вързала след десетилетия
    управление от сбъркани хора, в последните 30 години избирани от
    народа.

    леле, да не започва да те гони нещо като соцносталгия?

    "Десетилетията" включват цялото соц минало. Изобщо не ми липсва. Просто
    тогава хората нямаха избор. Сега сами си избират сбърканите лидери.

    кажи какво става с домашното, за соцносталгията е ясно?

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