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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 08:29:14 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Да, данните са от декември, но едва ли са се променили.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/thumb/0/01/

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Хайде да чуя обяснения сега.
България, страната с най-голяма смъртност едва ли не в света,
изведнъж сега се оказа заедно с Румъния практически с нула excess
deaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9232395/
и не само там, и в САЩ има случаи.

Официално признаха тромбозите, миокардит, сега и това като следствие от
ваксините. А аз като карам за работа, виждам надписи за компенсация от
$2500 за trials за ваксина против ковид?!

Аз наричам тази пландемия тест за интелигентност. 90% се провалиха.
Германия е най-зле, excess mortality rate of 37.3 %, следват Франция и
Англия. Дали по интуиция, дали от пословичното ни недоверие към всичко,
но българите постъпиха правилно се оказа.

ако очакваш ивайло да ти обясни нещо, няма да го направи, не е такъв. в
такива случаи обикновено изчезва и не се появява.

а темата е прекалено болезнена за търсене на реванш за изговорените
идиотизми по мой и твой адрес. аз за това и не я обсъждам.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 11:30:49 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 8:13:24 PM UTC+2, Vedrin Jeliazkov wrote:

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:29:15 PM UTC+2, Радостина wrote:

Да, данните са от декември, но едва ли са се променили.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/thumb/0/01/Map01_Excess_Mortality_2022_Dec.png/600px-Map01_Excess_Mortality_2022_Dec.png
Хайде да чуя обяснения сега.
България, страната с най-голяма смъртност едва ли не в света,
изведнъж сега се оказа заедно с Румъния практически с нула excess deaths.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9232395/
и не само там, и в САЩ има случаи.
Официално признаха тромбозите, миокардит, сега и това
като следствие от ваксините. А аз като карам за работа, виждам надписи за компенсация от $2500 за trials за ваксина против ковид?!
Аз наричам тази пландемия тест за интелигентност. 90% се провалиха.
Германия е най-зле, excess mortality rate of 37.3 %, следват Франция и Англия. Дали по интуиция, дали от пословичното ни недоверие към всичко, но българи

те постъпиха правилно се оказа.

Данните по-горе се отнасят за декември 2022 г.
Седмичен брой умирания през последните 5 години според НСИ:
https://www.nsi.bg/sites/default/files/files/pages/covid/D_2_2023_W5.png

Очаквам тишина

Само затишие, докато се чъдят каква друга глупонтия да изакат :-)

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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:24:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"веднъж епидемията да отмине, на много места, с месеци а може и години,
сигурно ще видим занижена смъртност"

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.bulgaria/c/0Ii9x4zrLKs/m/

y9tvWLT_AQAJ

Естествено човек с IQ от 164 няма как да се сети за това.

хубаво, ама акцентът е на повишената, а не на занижената смъртност.

твоята теза е известна, така че недей както винаги да се опитваш да
изместиш темата.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:00:42 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:24:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"веднъж епидемията да отмине, на много места, с месеци а може и години,
сигурно ще видим занижена смъртност"

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.bulgaria/c/0Ii9x4zrLKs/m/

y9tvWLT_AQAJ

Естествено човек с IQ от 164 няма как да се сети за това.

хубаво, ама акцентът е на повишената, а не на занижената смъртност.

твоята теза е известна, така че недей както винаги да се опитваш да
изместиш темата.

Пригласяш на пернатите глупости най-вече за да се заяждаш с Ивайло,
отделно е че си и леко конспиративно гламав и оттам леко кьорав в главата.

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:08:52 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:00:42 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:24:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"веднъж епидемията да отмине, на много места, с месеци а може и
години, сигурно ще видим занижена смъртност"

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.bulgaria/c/0Ii9x4zrLKs/m/

y9tvWLT_AQAJ

Естествено човек с IQ от 164 няма как да се сети за това.

хубаво, ама акцентът е на повишената, а не на занижената смъртност.

твоята теза е известна, така че недей както винаги да се опитваш да
изместиш темата.

Пригласяш на пернатите глупости най-вече за да се заяждаш с Ивайло,
отделно е че си и леко конспиративно гламав и оттам леко кьорав в
главата.

чорби, радост ви говори за повишена допълнителна смъртност в държави с
висок процент на ваксинирани.

за българия е ясно, няма какво да се коментира там, освен ако не си падаш
нещо некрофил - никакво здравеопазване (пациентът се третира като клиент),
никаква профилактика, почти никаква здравна култура и прословутото „това
на мен няма да се случи“. толкова за българия. но ивайло да ме обвинява
мен, че съм виновен за тези смъртни случаи е повече от нагло.

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

ето ти една статия за нова зеландия:

New Zealand records biggest increase in registered deaths in 100 years https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-records-biggest-increase-in- registered-deaths-in-100-years/BQERSTKIANCKRNNA7IL42RD52U/

оставям на теб да провериш какво беше поведението на нова зеландия към
политиката на сзо и да намериш отговор на този въпрос - защо при тях е
този пик на смъртни случаи?

а ивайло си заслужава напълно заяждането, най-малкото за вискомерието,
което показва по тази тема, а и не само.

толкова от мен за допълнителната смъртност.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:18:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:00:44 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:24:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"веднъж епидемията да отмине, на много места, с месеци а може и
години, сигурно ще видим занижена смъртност"

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.bulgaria/c/0Ii9x4zrLKs/m/

y9tvWLT_AQAJ

Естествено човек с IQ от 164 няма как да се сети за това.

хубаво, ама акцентът е на повишената, а не на занижената смъртност.

???

"Хайде да чуя обяснения сега.

България, страната с най-голяма смъртност едва ли не в света, изведнъж
сега се оказа заедно с Румъния практически с нула excess deaths."

и след това:

---8<---

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9232395/
и не само там, и в САЩ има случаи.

Официално признаха тромбозите, миокардит, сега и това като следствие от
ваксините. А аз като карам за работа, виждам надписи за компенсация от
$2500 за trials за ваксина против ковид?!

Аз наричам тази пландемия тест за интелигентност. 90% се провалиха.
Германия е най-зле, excess mortality rate of 37.3 %, следват Франция и
Англия. Дали по интуиция, дали от пословичното ни недоверие към всичко, но
българите постъпиха правилно се оказа.

---8<---

и виж най-отгоре какво си написал.

и чети много внимателно и много бавно какво съм написал за да не ми
приписваш неща, които не съм казвал (здрасти, чорби).

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:31:27 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

"Хайде да чуя обяснения сега.
България, страната с най-голяма смъртност едва ли не в света,
изведнъж сега се оказа заедно с Румъния практически с нула excess deaths."

Моето обяснение от януари 2021
"Ако си умрял по-рано, няма как да умреш по-късно :("

:-D
Дали Белоглавка ще разбере?
Дали Антивайло ще кандиса?

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 01:06:49 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

Дали Антивайло ще кандиса?

за кое да кандисам? за допълнителната смъртност или за да не я обсъждам?

докато ивайло продължава да пробутва неговата пропаганда и да ми приписва
неща, които не съм казвал, няма да кандисам. погледни му само последната
пращулка до мен в тази тема.

за допълнителната смъртност отдавна съм казал какво мисля и не гледам да
не повдигам темата,

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:34:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 12:30:06 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:18:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:00:44 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:24:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"веднъж епидемията да отмине, на много места, с месеци а може и
години, сигурно ще видим занижена смъртност"

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.bulgaria/c/0Ii9x4zrLKs/m/

y9tvWLT_AQAJ

Естествено човек с IQ от 164 няма как да се сети за това.

хубаво, ама акцентът е на повишената, а не на занижената смъртност.

???

"Хайде да чуя обяснения сега.

България, страната с най-голяма смъртност едва ли не в света,
изведнъж сега се оказа заедно с Румъния практически с нула excess
deaths."

и след това:

---8<---
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9232395/
и не само там, и в САЩ има случаи.

"The exact cause of Guillain-Barre syndrome is unknown. But two-thirds
of patients report symptoms of an infection in the six weeks preceding.
These include a _COVID-19 ... infection_"

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/

symptoms-causes/syc-20362793

Изследването не казва абсолютно нищо дали ваксинация или инфекция от
COVID-19 е по-вероятно да причини заболяването*. Всъщност статията не
съдържа никакви статистически анализи свързани с епидемиологията на
заболяването. Тя представлява "case study" на 13 пациента. В това няма
нищо лошо, но тя не казва това, което явно си мислите, че казва.

*Но пък цитира друга статия спроред която "Frequency of neurological
complications after SARS-CoV-2 infection, including GBS,
is much higher than after COVID vaccination"

Общо взето оставам с впечатлението, че нито ти нито Нерадост можете да
правите елементарен анализ на научна статия.

а аз съм останал с впечатлението, че продължаваш да ми приписваш неща,
които не съм казал - погледни какво съм те предупредил най-долу в
отговора, който цитираш.

после може да се опиташ да обясниш защо мислиш, че аз правя анализ на
някаква научна статия.

и най-накрая, идиот нещастен, ще погледнеш ли кой точно е написал долното:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9232395/
и не само там, и в САЩ има случаи.

защото това не са мои думи. научи се най-после да четеш с разбиране.

Официално признаха тромбозите, миокардит, сега и това като следствие от
ваксините. А аз като карам за работа, виждам надписи за компенсация от
$2500 за trials за ваксина против ковид?!

Аз наричам тази пландемия тест за интелигентност. 90% се провалиха.
Германия е най-зле, excess mortality rate of 37.3 %, следват Франция и
Англия. Дали по интуиция, дали от пословичното ни недоверие към всичко,
но българите постъпиха правилно се оказа. >> ---8<---

и виж най-отгоре какво си написал.

и чети много внимателно и много бавно какво съм написал за да не ми
приписваш неща, които не съм казвал (здрасти, чорби).

ей това може да си го татуираш на челото.

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да проумеят.
И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам някакво затъпяване при
ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и неспособни да мислят.
Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но няма
да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам някакво
затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и неспособни
да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но
няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва да
пробута.

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:40:14 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има
повишена допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам
някакво затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и
неспособни да мислят.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но
няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва да
пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да разбере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински знаменца
и не блестят с особен ум :-)

не, не ме шокира. това си има съвсем логично обяснение.

Някой беше пуснал слух, че ваксинираните ще умрат до 5 години.
В началото се изсмях, сега започам да се замислям.
Не че е замислено така, но какво ако предизвиква някакви прмени в
организма, някои учени казаха че шипчестият протеин е токсичен.

засега е само слух и честно казано, ми се иска да остане такъв.

Между другото имате някака нова звезда, дето разрушил плочата на
паметника на съветската армия, ама не бил съвсем наясно какъв паметник
било това. :-)))

учудена ли си?

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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:15:07 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 9:22:18 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:34:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

и най-накрая, идиот нещастен, ще погледнеш ли кой точно е написал
долното:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9232395/

и не само там, и в САЩ има случаи.

защото това не са мои думи. научи се най-после да четеш с разбиране.

Ивайло и разбиране, ти шегуваш ли се?
Той да чете не може, ти искаш и да разбира... немой така, че земе да му се спука някоя вена.
Нали виждаш колко са му объркани представите за войната.

Той де факто е за съжаление.

ами опитвам се да му помогна …

Мисли си че рзбира и има самочувствие, но явно на фона на много
по-големи загубеняци от него ;)

Неговите напъни са ми смешно симпатични, не знам как по друг начин да ги
обясня.

не ги обяснявай, няма нужда :)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:47:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има
повишена допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам
някакво затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани
и неспособни да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default,
но няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)

не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва
да пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински
знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на
Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

тя войната не е негова, така че изводът ти не е научно издържан 8-)

Има и интересни изключения, например ноторния проф. Николай Витанов в
България (и Борко в нашата група).

как си с математиката? щом е вярно за единия, за втория, за n+1 и как беше
по-нататък?

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:47:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам някакво
затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и неспособни
да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам. >> >

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но
няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва да
пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.
Има и интересни изключения, например ноторния проф. Николай Витанов в България (и Борко в нашата група).

Стига глупости бе, къде ги чете тия глупости?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:56:54 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:51:07 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:47:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote: >> >> >

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам някакво
затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и неспособни
да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но
няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва да
пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.
Има и интересни изключения, например ноторния проф. Николай Витанов в България (и Борко в нашата група).

Стига глупости бе, къде ги чете тия глупости?

?

"И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на

Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна."

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:49:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Както вече споменах моите ваксинирани деца и внучки го изкараха аз
неваксинираната, не съм го карала, т.е. може и да съм го карала,
безсимптомно ))

То не ходи по пернатии..

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински
знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на
Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

Не случайно ти казват, че си идиот. ;-)

Антиваксър е безмозъчно и безмислено определение.

Но такива като теб няма как да го разберат, ти не можеш да разсъждаваш.
Как казаш на един човек, който има всички ваксини с изключение на тази
антиваксър :-)))

Човек наистина трябва да е пъзлив идиот, за да се ваксинира с
експериментална, неутвърдена ваксина. Вече казах, всички ваксинирани са
опитни зайчета, това са trials!!

joy, не ваксинирането е укоримо, а упреците на някои ваксинирани към
неваксинираните и обвиненията, отправяни към тях.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 02:59:55 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:56:54 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:51:07 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:47:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има
повишена допълнителна смъртност след затихването на
пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат
да проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам,
забелязвам някакво затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават
все по-зомбирани и неспособни да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by
default, но няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го
оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините,
наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване
при ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се
опитва да пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински
знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели
на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.
Има и интересни изключения, например ноторния проф. Николай Витанов
в България (и Борко в нашата група).

Стига глупости бе, къде ги чете тия глупости?

?

"И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели

на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна."

хайде, кажи пак, че трябва да смекча тона си към ивайло. ама честно, с
ръка на сърцето.

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:27:40 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:49:03 PM UTC-8, Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:37:44 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:04:34 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

Ти четеш като дявола евангелието, FDA са наредили да се направи
изследване и да се посочат данни, за да се утвърди ваксината, която
да подчертая още не е утвърдена.
В случая всъщност дори няма значение дали е болестта или ваксината,
при положение, че дори има вероптност болестта и ваксината да имат
един и същ ефект.

Има голямо значение, тъй като е гарантирано че 99% от неваксинираните
в един момент ще се заразят с ковид.

А ефекта от преболедуване от ковид, при липса на ваксинация, е много
по-голям от заболяване на Guillain-Barre syndrome,

осъзнаваш ли какво си написал?

Кое го гарантира?! :-)

Високата инфекциозност на ковид.

…

Обяснението е сравнително тривиално - на запад по-малко хора са
прекарали ковид и много по-малък процент от хората с "preexisting
conditions" са починали до този момент (и както Милко е написал, тези
които са починали по-рано, няма как да умрат по-късно).

Съответно ковид е по-смъртоносен там в момента. Какво му е трудното за
разбиране?

което потвърждава тезата, че това, което се предлага не е ваксина. ако
беше ваксина, всичко това, което споменаваш по-горе, нямаше да се случва.
иначе съм съгласен, че все повече хора на запад ще умират от ковид
въпреки, че са ваксинирани. и въпросът, който изниква във всеки
непредубеден ум е за чий хуй тогава са тези ваксини?

другият парадокс, който има да обясняваш, е защо въпреки ваксините,
ваксинираните се заразяват и разболяват почти еднакво с неваксинираните.


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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:01:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:56:54 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:51:07 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:47:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote: >> >> >> >

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote: >> >> >> >

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам някакво
затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и неспособни
да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но
няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва да
пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.
Има и интересни изключения, например ноторния проф. Николай Витанов в България (и Борко в нашата група).

Стига глупости бе, къде ги чете тия глупости?

?

"И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на

Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна."

Ти не си анти-ваксър и ковид-deniers, но си почитател на Путин. Не си съгласен?

Ахде сега цигански номера. Изака се като либерастите тука...
Мнението ми е че Западът е в основата на войната в Украйна, къде тука
виждаш почитателсво към Путин или кой не скача е червен?

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 05:22:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:02:26 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:27:40 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:49:03 PM UTC-8, Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:37:44 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:04:34 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

Ти четеш като дявола евангелието, FDA са наредили да се направи
изследване и да се посочат данни, за да се утвърди ваксината,
която да подчертая още не е утвърдена. >> >> > > В случая всъщност дори няма значение дали е болестта или
ваксината, при положение, че дори има вероптност болестта и
ваксината да имат един и същ ефект.

Има голямо значение, тъй като е гарантирано че 99% от
неваксинираните в един момент ще се заразят с ковид.

А ефекта от преболедуване от ковид, при липса на ваксинация, е
много по-голям от заболяване на Guillain-Barre syndrome,

осъзнаваш ли какво си написал?

Кое го гарантира?! :-)

Високата инфекциозност на ковид.

…

Обяснението е сравнително тривиално - на запад по-малко хора са
прекарали ковид и много по-малък процент от хората с "preexisting
conditions" са починали до този момент (и както Милко е написал, тези
които са починали по-рано, няма как да умрат по-късно).

Съответно ковид е по-смъртоносен там в момента. Какво му е трудното
за разбиране?

което потвърждава тезата, че това, което се предлага не е ваксина.

Тези твои глупости вече ги обсъждахме.

остави моите глупости, сега говорим за твоите.

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 04:40:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:42:57 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:01:00 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:56:54 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:51:07 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:47:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:40:15 AM UTC-5, Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:20:08 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:17:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 21:51:47 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

въпросът е защо в страни с висок процент на ваксинирани има повишена
допълнителна смъртност след затихването на пандемията?

точно това е въпросът, ама техните промити мозъци не могат да
проумеят. И честно казано, изобщо не се шегувам, забелязвам някакво
затъпяване при ваксинирани хора. Стават все по-зомбирани и неспособни
да мислят.

Чак е страшно. Не, никак не се шегувам.

не е от ваксините.

ако исках да се заяждам, щях да кажа, че при ивайло е by default, но
няма да го направя, че чорби пак ще скочи да го оправдава.

иначе, сериозно казано, затъпяването не е от ваксините, наистина.

:-)
не съм казала такова нещо, казвам че се наблюдава затъпяване при
ваксинираните, както и украински знаменца,

е, ивайло така ще го разбере. а и не само той.

корелацията е силна :-)

тази корелация е толкова силна, колкото тази, която ведрин се опитва да
пробута.

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.
Има и интересни изключения, например ноторния проф. Николай Витанов в България (и Борко в нашата група).

Стига глупости бе, къде ги чете тия глупости?

?

"И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели на

Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна."

Ти не си анти-ваксър и ковид-deniers, но си почитател на Путин. Не си съгласен?

Ахде сега цигански номера. Изака се като либерастите тука...
Мнението ми е че Западът е в основата на войната в Украйна, къде тука
виждаш почитателсво към Путин или кой не скача е червен?

Т.е. точно това, което съм написъл.

Я пак?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена.

А що не 3 или 10? какво му е специалното на 5?

Преди се правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха.

И сега се прави но в маймунските страни. Имам братовчедка в Бг
която правеше преди 2-3 години по 15000 лева на месеж, сега
вероятно повече, точно с такава работа.

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:21:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 7:00:48 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:49:02 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Както вече споменах моите ваксинирани деца и внучки го изкараха аз
неваксинираната, не съм го карала, т.е. може и да съм го карала,
безсимптомно ))

То не ходи по пернатии..

а, в нашата зоологическа градина и пингвини, и тигри го караха :-)

Aма ти не си?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:39:28 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се пак,
че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с украински
знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са почитатели
на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

Не случайно ти казват, че си идиот. ;-)

Антиваксър е безмозъчно и безмислено определение.
Но такива като теб няма как да го разберат, ти не можеш да
разсъждаваш. Как казаш на един човек, който има всички ваксини с
изключение на тази антиваксър :-)))

Човек наистина трябва да е пъзлив идиот, за да се ваксинира с
експериментална, неутвърдена ваксина. Вече казах, всички ваксинирани
са опитни зайчета, това са trials!!

joy, не ваксинирането е укоримо, а упреците на някои ваксинирани към
неваксинираните и обвиненията, отправяни към тях.

Аз не коря ваксинирането. Много пъти заявих тук, че който иска, нека се
ваксинира.

абе индиректно го правиш, да знаеш.

Децата и внучките ми са ваксинирани.

и моите деца, и аз самият съм ваксиниран с всички ваксини от детството,
само за корона вирус са ваксинирани половината семейство.

аз и антиваксър - това само ме разсмива, макар че понякога става повече от
досадно.

Това не променя факта, че се ваксинират с неутвърдена, експериментална
ваксина.

това и според мен е така, но има и друг, по-голям проблем - поне двете
„най-популярни“ ваксини са базирани на шиповия протеин, който доста често
мутира. и за мен това прави ваксините по-малко ефективни.

още в самото начало на пандемията казах, че ако ще трябва да се
ваксинирам, искам да е с ваксина, създадена по класическия метод. и заради
това мнение пак съм антиваксър.

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена. Преди се
правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха. Сега намериха много повече
доброволци, безплатно.

Значи, отгоре на това че ваксините бяха одобрени само за emergency use,
с времето се оказа, че нито предпазват от заболяване, нито предпазват от
пренасяне на болестта, дори от смърт не предпазват. Аз не знам друга
такава ваксина. CDC два пъти смени дефиницията на ваксина за да попадне
това чудо в нея.

ето това не мога да разбера - смяната на дефинициите. винаги се сещам за
една задачка от мартин гарднър - един фермер имал 10 коня, 20 крави и 30
овце. колко коня, крави и овце ще има фермера, ако на кравите викаме овце,
на овцете - коне, а на конете - крави?

Аз не разбирам защо ваксинираните се занимават изобщо с неваксинираните.
Не би трябвало изобщо да ги вълнува, ако са сигурни че ваксината им
работи... ама не саааа :-)

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

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On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:08:15 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена.

А що не 3 или 10? какво му е специалното на 5?

добър въпрос :)

може би защото са преценили, че толкова време е достатъчно за да се
проявят вредните ефекти от ваксината?

Преди се правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха.

И сега се прави но в маймунските страни. Имам братовчедка в Бг която
правеше преди 2-3 години по 15000 лева на месеж, сега вероятно повече,
точно с такава работа.

не се увличайте по темата за парите, pls.

не че не е вярно това, което казвате, но не мисля, че е най-важното.

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 05:38:28 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:39:35 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:39:28 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се
пак, че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с
украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са
почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

Не случайно ти казват, че си идиот. ;-)

Антиваксър е безмозъчно и безмислено определение.
Но такива като теб няма как да го разберат, ти не можеш да
разсъждаваш. Как казаш на един човек, който има всички ваксини с
изключение на тази антиваксър :-)))

Човек наистина трябва да е пъзлив идиот, за да се ваксинира с
експериментална, неутвърдена ваксина. Вече казах, всички
ваксинирани са опитни зайчета, това са trials!!

joy, не ваксинирането е укоримо, а упреците на някои ваксинирани към
неваксинираните и обвиненията, отправяни към тях.

Аз не коря ваксинирането. Много пъти заявих тук, че който иска, нека
се ваксинира.

абе индиректно го правиш, да знаеш.

Децата и внучките ми са ваксинирани.

и моите деца, и аз самият съм ваксиниран с всички ваксини от детството,
само за корона вирус са ваксинирани половината семейство.

аз и антиваксър - това само ме разсмива, макар че понякога става повече
от досадно.

Това не променя факта, че се ваксинират с неутвърдена,
експериментална ваксина.

това и според мен е така, но има и друг, по-голям проблем - поне двете
„най-популярни“ ваксини са базирани на шиповия протеин, който доста
често мутира. и за мен това прави ваксините по-малко ефективни.

още в самото начало на пандемията казах, че ако ще трябва да се
ваксинирам, искам да е с ваксина, създадена по класическия метод. и
заради това мнение пак съм антиваксър.

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена. Преди се
правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха. Сега намериха много повече
доброволци, безплатно.

Значи, отгоре на това че ваксините бяха одобрени само за emergency
use,

с времето се оказа, че нито предпазват от заболяване, нито предпазват
от пренасяне на болестта, дори от смърт не предпазват. Аз не знам
друга такава ваксина. CDC два пъти смени дефиницията на ваксина за да
попадне това чудо в нея.

ето това не мога да разбера - смяната на дефинициите. винаги се сещам
за една задачка от мартин гарднър - един фермер имал 10 коня, 20 крави
и 30 овце. колко коня, крави и овце ще има фермера, ако на кравите
викаме овце, на овцете - коне, а на конете - крави?

Аз не разбирам защо ваксинираните се занимават изобщо с
неваксинираните.
Не би трябвало изобщо да ги вълнува, ако са сигурни че ваксината им
работи... ама не саааа :-)

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

не съм го виждала от години, не знам какво става с него.

пишеше в керпедена до преди година и малко, но не му понесе обстановката
там.

но май може да се намери във форума на „дневник“.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:49:35 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

не съм го виждала от години, не знам какво става с него.

пишеше в керпедена до преди година и малко, но не му понесе обстановката
там.

Какво е това "керпедена" ?
Доколкото си спомням той беше неолиберален исторически ревизионист..

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 16:33:06 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:49:35 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

не съм го виждала от години, не знам какво става с него.

пишеше в керпедена до преди година и малко, но не му понесе
обстановката там.

Какво е това "керпедена" ?
Доколкото си спомням той беше неолиберален исторически ревизионист..

един форум, подходящ за ивайло, нали си пада русофил. гледай сега, как
хубаво ще ти обясни какво е керпедена 8-)

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:23:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:49:36 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 05:38:28 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:39:35 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:39:28 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира се
пак, че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така са с
украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са
почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

Не случайно ти казват, че си идиот. ;-)

Антиваксър е безмозъчно и безмислено определение.
Но такива като теб няма как да го разберат, ти не можеш да
разсъждаваш. Как казаш на един човек, който има всички ваксини
с изключение на тази антиваксър :-)))

Човек наистина трябва да е пъзлив идиот, за да се ваксинира с
експериментална, неутвърдена ваксина. Вече казах, всички
ваксинирани са опитни зайчета, това са trials!!

joy, не ваксинирането е укоримо, а упреците на някои ваксинирани
към неваксинираните и обвиненията, отправяни към тях.

Аз не коря ваксинирането. Много пъти заявих тук, че който иска,
нека се ваксинира.

абе индиректно го правиш, да знаеш.

Децата и внучките ми са ваксинирани.

и моите деца, и аз самият съм ваксиниран с всички ваксини от
детството, само за корона вирус са ваксинирани половината семейство.

аз и антиваксър - това само ме разсмива, макар че понякога става
повече от досадно.

Това не променя факта, че се ваксинират с неутвърдена,
експериментална ваксина.

това и според мен е така, но има и друг, по-голям проблем - поне
двете „най-популярни“ ваксини са базирани на шиповия протеин, който
доста често мутира. и за мен това прави ваксините по-малко
ефективни.

още в самото начало на пандемията казах, че ако ще трябва да се
ваксинирам, искам да е с ваксина, създадена по класическия метод. и
заради това мнение пак съм антиваксър.

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена. Преди се
правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха. Сега намериха много
повече доброволци, безплатно.

Значи, отгоре на това че ваксините бяха одобрени само за emergency
use,

с времето се оказа, че нито предпазват от заболяване, нито
предпазват от пренасяне на болестта, дори от смърт не предпазват.
Аз не знам друга такава ваксина. CDC два пъти смени дефиницията на
ваксина за да попадне това чудо в нея.

ето това не мога да разбера - смяната на дефинициите. винаги се
сещам за една задачка от мартин гарднър - един фермер имал 10 коня,
20 крави и 30 овце. колко коня, крави и овце ще има фермера, ако на
кравите викаме овце, на овцете - коне, а на конете - крави?

Аз не разбирам защо ваксинираните се занимават изобщо с
неваксинираните.
Не би трябвало изобщо да ги вълнува, ако са сигурни че ваксината
им работи... ама не саааа :-)

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

не съм го виждала от години, не знам какво става с него.

пишеше в керпедена до преди година и малко, но не му понесе
обстановката там.

но май може да се намери във форума на „дневник“.

Какво е писал за ваксините?

а защо питаш?

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:44:51 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:37:29 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:23:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:49:36 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 05:38:28 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:39:35 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:39:28 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo
Ivanov wrote:

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли шокира
се пак, че най-големите защитници на ваксината също така
са с украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са
почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

Не случайно ти казват, че си идиот. ;-)

Антиваксър е безмозъчно и безмислено определение.
Но такива като теб няма как да го разберат, ти не можеш да
разсъждаваш. Как казаш на един човек, който има всички
ваксини с изключение на тази антиваксър :-)))

Човек наистина трябва да е пъзлив идиот, за да се ваксинира
с експериментална, неутвърдена ваксина. Вече казах, всички
ваксинирани са опитни зайчета, това са trials!!

joy, не ваксинирането е укоримо, а упреците на някои
ваксинирани към неваксинираните и обвиненията, отправяни към
тях.

Аз не коря ваксинирането. Много пъти заявих тук, че който иска,
нека се ваксинира.

абе индиректно го правиш, да знаеш.

Децата и внучките ми са ваксинирани. >> >> >> и моите деца, и аз самият съм ваксиниран с всички ваксини от

детството, само за корона вирус са ваксинирани половината
семейство.

аз и антиваксър - това само ме разсмива, макар че понякога става
повече от досадно.

Това не променя факта, че се ваксинират с неутвърдена,
експериментална ваксина.

това и според мен е така, но има и друг, по-голям проблем - поне
двете „най-популярни“ ваксини са базирани на шиповия протеин,
който доста често мутира. и за мен това прави ваксините по-малко
ефективни.

още в самото начало на пандемията казах, че ако ще трябва да се
ваксинирам, искам да е с ваксина, създадена по класическия метод.
и заради това мнение пак съм антиваксър.

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена. Преди
се правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха. Сега намериха
много повече доброволци, безплатно.

Значи, отгоре на това че ваксините бяха одобрени само за
emergency use,

с времето се оказа, че нито предпазват от заболяване, нито
предпазват от пренасяне на болестта, дори от смърт не
предпазват.

Аз не знам друга такава ваксина. CDC два пъти смени дефиницията
на ваксина за да попадне това чудо в нея.

ето това не мога да разбера - смяната на дефинициите. винаги се
сещам за една задачка от мартин гарднър - един фермер имал 10
коня,

20 крави и 30 овце. колко коня, крави и овце ще има фермера, ако
на кравите викаме овце, на овцете - коне, а на конете - крави?

Аз не разбирам защо ваксинираните се занимават изобщо с
неваксинираните.

Не би трябвало изобщо да ги вълнува, ако са сигурни че
ваксината им работи... ама не саааа :-)

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

не съм го виждала от години, не знам какво става с него.

пишеше в керпедена до преди година и малко, но не му понесе
обстановката там.

но май може да се намери във форума на „дневник“.

Какво е писал за ваксините?

а защо питаш?

Защото си повдигнал темата.

така ли? къде това?

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 11:03:23 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 1:06:22 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:44:51 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:37:29 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:23:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:49:36 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 05:38:28 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:39:35 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:18:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:39:28 PM UTC-8, Nick
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-8, Ivaylo
Ivanov wrote:

Ивайло така или иначе няма да рабере, но не те ли
шокира се пак, че най-големите защитници на ваксината
също така са с украински знаменца

И обратно - най-големите анти-ваксъри и ковид-deniers са
почитатели на Путин и апологети на войната му в Украйна.

Не случайно ти казват, че си идиот. ;-)

Антиваксър е безмозъчно и безмислено определение.
Но такива като теб няма как да го разберат, ти не можеш
да разсъждаваш. Как казаш на един човек, който има всички
ваксини с изключение на тази антиваксър :-)))

Човек наистина трябва да е пъзлив идиот, за да се
ваксинира с експериментална, неутвърдена ваксина. Вече
казах, всички ваксинирани са опитни зайчета, това са
trials!!

joy, не ваксинирането е укоримо, а упреците на някои
ваксинирани към неваксинираните и обвиненията, отправяни
към тях.

Аз не коря ваксинирането. Много пъти заявих тук, че който
иска, нека се ваксинира.

абе индиректно го правиш, да знаеш.

Децата и внучките ми са ваксинирани.

и моите деца, и аз самият съм ваксиниран с всички ваксини от
детството, само за корона вирус са ваксинирани половината
семейство.

аз и антиваксър - това само ме разсмива, макар че понякога
става повече от досадно.

Това не променя факта, че се ваксинират с неутвърдена,
експериментална ваксина.

това и според мен е така, но има и друг, по-голям проблем -
поне двете „най-популярни“ ваксини са базирани на шиповия
протеин, който доста често мутира. и за мен това прави
ваксините по-малко ефективни.

още в самото начало на пандемията казах, че ако ще трябва да
се ваксинирам, искам да е с ваксина, създадена по класическия
метод.
и заради това мнение пак съм антиваксър.

Една ваксина й трябват 5 години средно да бъде утвърдена.
Преди се правеше с доброволци на които им плащаха. Сега
намериха много повече доброволци, безплатно.

Значи, отгоре на това че ваксините бяха одобрени само за
emergency use,

с времето се оказа, че нито предпазват от заболяване, нито
предпазват от пренасяне на болестта, дори от смърт не
предпазват.

Аз не знам друга такава ваксина. CDC два пъти смени
дефиницията на ваксина за да попадне това чудо в нея.

ето това не мога да разбера - смяната на дефинициите. винаги
се сещам за една задачка от мартин гарднър - един фермер имал
10 коня,

20 крави и 30 овце. колко коня, крави и овце ще има фермера,
ако на кравите викаме овце, на овцете - коне, а на конете -
крави?

Аз не разбирам защо ваксинираните се занимават изобщо с
неваксинираните.

Не би трябвало изобщо да ги вълнува, ако са сигурни че
ваксината им работи... ама не саааа :-)

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там.

не съм го виждала от години, не знам какво става с него.

пишеше в керпедена до преди година и малко, но не му понесе
обстановката там.

но май може да се намери във форума на „дневник“.

Какво е писал за ваксините?

а защо питаш?

Защото си повдигнал темата.

така ли? къде това?

Аз не разбирам защо ваксинираните се занимават изобщо с
неваксинираните.

Не би трябвало изобщо да ги вълнува, ако са сигурни че ваксината им
работи... ама не саааа :-)

питай стефан николов, ако се появи наоколо. обяснението е там."

и какъв е точно въпросът? после ще те питам какъв е отговорът.

пък да вземеш да се научиш и да цитираш като хората?

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