• Re: Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19

    From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Feb 27 01:08:36 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most
    likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report
    recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress."

    Това беше и моята "работна хипотеза" още от края на март и началото на април 2020.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11795757/Energy-Department-concludes-Covid-likely-leaked-Wuhan-virus-lab.html

    Естествено все още няма недвусмислено доказателство, че това е факт.

    Ми той Тръмп си каза: китайски вирус. Ама либерастите писнаха, щото Китай
    тогава не беше лош за тях.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 16:15:58 2023
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 17:15:58 2023
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Feb 27 02:01:18 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 17:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 8:08:37 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most
    likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report
    recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress."

    Това беше и моята "работна хипотеза" още от края на март и началото на април 2020.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11795757/Energy-Department-concludes-Covid-likely-leaked-Wuhan-virus-lab.html

    Естествено все още няма недвусмислено доказателство, че това е факт.
    Ми той Тръмп си каза: китайски вирус. Ама либерастите писнаха, щото Китай
    тогава не беше лош за тях.

    “We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that Covid-19 does not have a natural origin.”

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext

    Необузданата прогрерастия, която _винаги_ е антинаучна, често нанася тежки щети.

    Очевидно има голямо място и в peer reviewed издания... Как тогава да вярва човек
    на данни които му поднасят?

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Feb 27 05:11:11 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most
    likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified
    intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members
    of Congress."

    Това беше и моята "работна хипотеза" още от края на март и началото на
    април 2020.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11795757/Energy-Department-
    concludes-Covid-likely-leaked-Wuhan-virus-lab.html

    е, твоята „работна хипотеза“ беше, че и американците сте целите в бяло, а
    само китайците са виновни 8-)

    Естествено все още няма недвусмислено доказателство, че това е факт.

    естествено, че няма. както е факт, че все още не е намерен междинния
    гостоприемник, през който е осъществена зоонозата 8-)

    само да кажа, че си тръгнал по пътя да признаеш, че радост е била права
    8-)

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 21:36:57 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Feb 28 15:09:30 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most
    likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified
    intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members
    of Congress."

    Това беше и моята "работна хипотеза" още от края на март и началото на
    април 2020.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11795757/Energy-Department-
    concludes-Covid-likely-leaked-Wuhan-virus-lab.html

    Естествено все още няма недвусмислено доказателство, че това е факт.

    The U.S. government still has not reached a consensus on how the
    coronavirus pandemic started, National Security Council spokesperson John
    Kirby told reporters Monday — despite news reports that the Energy
    Department has concluded the virus most likely leaked from a lab in China.

    “The intelligence community and the rest of the government is still
    looking at this,” Kirby said. “There’s not been a definitive conclusion, so it’s difficult for me to say — nor should I feel like I should have to defend press reporting about a possible preliminary indication here. What
    the president wants is facts.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/27/coronavirus-pandemic-origins-white-house-00084618

    шизофрения нещо?

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 10:45:55 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Feb 28 19:02:14 2023
    On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:45:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:09:31 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic
    most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified
    intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key
    members of Congress."

    Това беше и моята "работна хипотеза" още от края на март и началото
    на април 2020.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11795757/Energy-Department-
    concludes-Covid-likely-leaked-Wuhan-virus-lab.html

    Естествено все още няма недвусмислено доказателство, че това е факт.

    The U.S. government still has not reached a consensus on how the
    coronavirus pandemic started, National Security Council spokesperson
    John Kirby told reporters Monday — despite news reports that the Energy
    Department has concluded the virus most likely leaked from a lab in
    China.

    “The intelligence community and the rest of the government is still
    looking at this,” Kirby said. “There’s not been a definitive
    conclusion, so it’s difficult for me to say — nor should I feel like I >> should have to defend press reporting about a possible preliminary
    indication here. What the president wants is facts.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/27/coronavirus-pandemic-origins- white-house-00084618

    шизофрения нещо?

    Не бих казал. Различни държавни иституции, различни източници на
    информация, различни методологии.

    Логично е и изводите не винаги да съвпадат. Не намирам нищо странно. DOE
    имат експертиза в секвенирането на организми и предполлагам, че
    методологията им в случая е базирана на нея.

    Не съм чел доклада (който не е обнародван) и не мога да коментирам
    повече.

    и защо пускаш тогава новината? ДОЕ какво е?

    а иначе говоря за друга шизофрения.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 11:07:37 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Feb 28 19:18:04 2023
    On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:07:37 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:02:15 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:45:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:09:31 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:15:58 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic
    most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a
    classified intelligence report recently provided to the White
    House and key members of Congress."

    Това беше и моята "работна хипотеза" още от края на март и
    началото на април 2020.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11795757/Energy- Department-concludes-Covid-likely-leaked-Wuhan-virus-lab.html

    Естествено все още няма недвусмислено доказателство, че това е
    факт.

    The U.S. government still has not reached a consensus on how the
    coronavirus pandemic started, National Security Council spokesperson
    John Kirby told reporters Monday — despite news reports that the
    Energy Department has concluded the virus most likely leaked from a
    lab in China.

    “The intelligence community and the rest of the government is still
    looking at this,” Kirby said. “There’s not been a definitive
    conclusion, so it’s difficult for me to say — nor should I feel like >> >> I should have to defend press reporting about a possible preliminary
    indication here. What the president wants is facts.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/27/coronavirus-pandemic- origins-white-house-00084618

    шизофрения нещо?

    Не бих казал. Различни държавни иституции, различни източници на
    информация, различни методологии.

    Логично е и изводите не винаги да съвпадат. Не намирам нищо странно.
    DOE имат експертиза в секвенирането на организми и предполлагам, че
    методологията им в случая е базирана на нея.
    Не съм чел доклада (който не е обнародван) и не мога да коментирам
    повече.

    и защо пускаш тогава новината? ДОЕ какво е?

    Защото хора, които са го чели, са пуснали новината. DOE = United States
    Department of Energy.

    тук, в групата?

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    това са метаданните на откриващата темата пращулка. не знам тук да пише
    някой втори ивайло иванов.

    самохвалството ти няма да го коментирам засега.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 11:36:47 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Tue Feb 28 20:17:27 2023
    On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:36:47 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:18:06 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    ...

    това са метаданните на откриващата темата пращулка. не знам тук да пише
    някой втори ивайло иванов.

    ???

    ?!

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