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On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:58:32 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Христо Грозев смята, че българските разследващи органи прикриват
действията на руското военно разузнаване в България и не предоставят на
свои колеги от Западна Европа данни, с които разполагат."

Най-вероятно затова и Грозев предпочита много много да не се връща в
България (уж страна на ЕС и НАТО).

ами хубаво, само да не стане като с тодор живков навремето.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:58:32 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Христо Грозев смята, че българските разследващи органи прикриват
действията на руското военно разузнаване в България и не предоставят
на свои колеги от Западна Европа данни, с които разполагат."

А може би не прикриват нищо, а просто не искат да лъжат в нечия полза?

Най-вероятно затова и Грозев предпочита много много да не се връща в
България (уж страна на ЕС и НАТО).

https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-bulgaria/pone-9-vzriva-vuv-voenni-skladove-u-nas-sa-svurzani-gru

https://youtu.be/HUk73LoVdk4

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On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:12:19 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:58:32 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Христо Грозев смята, че българските разследващи органи прикриват
действията на руското военно разузнаване в България и не предоставят
на свои колеги от Западна Европа данни, с които разполагат."

Най-вероятно затова и Грозев предпочита много много да не се връща в
България (уж страна на ЕС и НАТО).

ами хубаво, само да не стане като с тодор живков навремето.

Какво за Тодор Живков?

ами нищо, като са ти малко знанията, не виждам защо да те информирам за
лафове от времето, когато тодор живков е бил нелегален.

и спри да задаваш тъпи въпроси.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 5:47:44 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:58:32 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Христо Грозев смята, че българските разследващи органи прикриват
действията на руското военно разузнаване в България и не предоставят
на свои колеги от Западна Европа данни, с които разполагат."

А може би не прикриват нищо, а просто не искат да лъжат в нечия полза?

Как тогава си обяснавяш факта, че и до днес тези взривове (някой от тях
очевиден саботаж) остават неразкрити и явно органите на държавата
проявяват минимален интерес към тях? Не им трябва да лъжат. Просто могат
да намерят извършителите, но явно дори не ги търсят. Представи си серия
от складове за боеприпаси да се взривяват в НРБ и никой в държавата да
не (смее да) търси извършителите. Защото аз не мога да си представя.

highly-likely.

ключовата дума в цитата е „смята“. и ивайло смята, че нещо е вярно, ама
дали е вярно.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 5:47:44 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:58:32 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Христо Грозев смята, че българските разследващи органи прикриват
действията на руското военно разузнаване в България и не предоставят
на свои колеги от Западна Европа данни, с които разполагат."

А може би не прикриват нищо, а просто не искат да лъжат в нечия полза?

Как тогава си обяснавяш факта, че и до днес тези взривове (някой от тях
очевиден саботаж) остават неразкрити

Ми както и с гръмналите тръби на Севернен Поток, как иначе?

и явно органите на държавата проявяват минимален интерес към тях? Не им
трябва да лъжат. Просто могат да намерят извършителите, но явно дори не
ги търсят. Представи си серия от складове за боеприпаси да се взривяват
в НРБ и никой в държавата да не (смее да) търси извършителите. Защото аз
не мога да си представя.

В България "органите" се пипат по органите защото така е най-лесно и никой
не ги закача. Ама явно си далеч от Бг реалностите, та не можеш да си представиш.

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:58:54 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

...

и явно органите на държавата проявяват минимален интерес към тях? Не
им трябва да лъжат. Просто могат да намерят извършителите, но явно
дори не ги търсят. Представи си серия от складове за боеприпаси да се
взривяват в НРБ и никой в държавата да не (смее да) търси
извършителите. Защото аз не мога да си представя.

В България "органите" се пипат по органите защото така е най-лесно и
никой не ги закача. Ама явно си далеч от Бг реалностите, та не можеш да
си представиш.

Това ми е ясно, но как е възможно ако България е американска колония?

нима в метрополията не си пипат органите?

защо не си зададеш обратния въпрос - ако българия беше руска колония, щеше
ли да спре изграждането на южен поток или на аец белене?

ще спреш ли да се правиш на ударен и наивно глупав?

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:30:55 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:25:25 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:58:54 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

...

и явно органите на държавата проявяват минимален интерес към тях?
Не им трябва да лъжат. Просто могат да намерят извършителите, но
явно дори не ги търсят. Представи си серия от складове за
боеприпаси да се взривяват в НРБ и никой в държавата да не (смее
да) търси извършителите. Защото аз не мога да си представя.

В България "органите" се пипат по органите защото така е най-лесно и
никой не ги закача. Ама явно си далеч от Бг реалностите, та не можеш
да си представиш.

Това ми е ясно, но как е възможно ако България е американска колония?

нима в метрополията не си пипат органите?

защо не си зададеш обратния въпрос - ако българия беше руска колония,
щеше ли да спре изграждането на южен поток или на аец белене?

Не изградихте ли патока, и то с народни пари? Само името му не е "Южен",
но какво от това? За Белене май така и не намериха парите. Все пак
нямаше как да излезе само 1.3 милиарда евро, колкото струва на България
патока.

не, не го изградихме. не позволихте.

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 20:42:24 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

не, не го изградихме. не позволихте.

В интерес на истината това "не позволихте" са глупости.
Бг правителството само си избра таза опция ( вероятно с малко парична
"смазка" от където трябва )

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 22:22:23 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 20:42:24 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

не, не го изградихме. не позволихте.

В интерес на истината това "не позволихте" са глупости.
Бг правителството само си избра таза опция ( вероятно с малко парична
"смазка" от където трябва )

сам казваш, че е имало смазка - ето ти го непозволението.

иначе формално си прав - решението беше наше, макар и под натиск. въпросът
е, чий беше натиска, за да може онзи умник да задава тъпия въпрос от
заглавието на нишката.

руски или американски сенатори дойдоха на посещение у нас, помниш ли?

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On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:41:47 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 4:42:25 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:30:55 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:25:25 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:58:54 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

...

и явно органите на държавата проявяват минимален интерес към
тях?

Не им трябва да лъжат. Просто могат да намерят извършителите,
но явно дори не ги търсят. Представи си серия от складове за
боеприпаси да се взривяват в НРБ и никой в държавата да не
(смее да) търси извършителите. Защото аз не мога да си
представя.

В България "органите" се пипат по органите защото така е
най-лесно и никой не ги закача. Ама явно си далеч от Бг
реалностите, та не можеш да си представиш.

Това ми е ясно, но как е възможно ако България е американска
колония?

нима в метрополията не си пипат органите?

защо не си зададеш обратния въпрос - ако българия беше руска
колония, щеше ли да спре изграждането на южен поток или на аец
белене?

Не изградихте ли патока, и то с народни пари? Само името му не е
"Южен", но какво от това? За Белене май така и не намериха парите.

Все пак нямаше как да излезе само 1.3 милиарда евро, колкото струва
на България патока.

не, не го изградихме. не позволихте.

А турски паток кой го изгради?

някой турчин ще да е, дето гледа патки, та затова и паток му е трябвал.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

тоя играе и от двете страни

Но не е само той. Нали това се опитвам да кажа?

Населението е разделено по равно "за" и "против" Украйна, така че
има някакъв смисъл от подобна политика..

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)