• Trump's lewd talk v Hillary's double-talk: "p***y" versus `foxes in

    From inoki@21:1/5 to mikako on Mon Oct 10 01:02:47 2016
    XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.latin-america

    Can you elaborate which crimes she involved is deemed treason and which
    crime is considered as espionage?.



    "PaxPerPoten" wrote in message news:ntd408$t0k$1@dont-email.me...

    On 10/9/2016 3:39 AM, mikako wrote:


    It seems you are pro-Trump.

    All your these bashings heaped on Hillary are not congruent with their
    future anymore.

    What you have to do is to think out of the box away from your these obsessions and think what makes the changes between them instead.

    OK, can you now write out your arguments on what changes do you think
    can evoke from each of them from next year onwards after their election
    next month on Nov 7.

    It ain't over until the fat lady sings. We have no reason to trust
    information from either the DNC or the RNC...The Media is camp run-amok.
    The Polls are all over the place and even forged. Yet I have met very
    few that claim to be voting for Hillary. I have met many in several
    states that believe she is guilty of Treason and Espionage and should be promptly incarcerated. Our faith in the FBI has been shattered. We find
    the IRS is a weapon against any who disagree with the power
    structure.Homeland Security is a damned joke.WE find there is not
    equality under the law. We have an administration that would continued
    under Hillary that has vastly divided this country under racial, gender, political and moral standards. 100 years ago we would have hung the lot
    of them. We have just about every country in the world upset with us. We
    are under indictment as the most terrorist nation!

    --
    It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
    the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
    ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
    be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster

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  • From mikako@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 9 16:39:26 2016
    XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.latin-america

    It seems you are pro-Trump.

    All your these bashings heaped on Hillary are not congruent with their
    future anymore.

    What you have to do is to think out of the box away from your these
    obsessions and think what makes the changes between them instead.

    OK, can you now write out your arguments on what changes do you think can
    evoke from each of them from next year onwards after their election next
    month on Nov 7.





    "lo yeeOn" wrote in message news:ntbqfa$at9$1@reader2.panix.com...

    Even as Hillary was preparing to run for president, we now know this:

    "Mrs Clinton told bankers that they were best-placed to help reform
    the US financial sector." BBC News

    Transcripts of private speeches by US Democratic presidential
    candidate Hillary Clinton have been released by the
    whistle-blowing site Wikileaks.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595047

    And this:

    Clinton's Syria War Plans

    Her national-security team-in-waiting wants a return to big
    U.S. interventions. By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
    August 16, 2016
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-syria-war-plans/

    Yes, this is about Trump's lewd talk v Hillary's double-talk!

    It's Hillary with an acre-size closet of secrets to hide versus an
    alpha-male who is ignorant that America has had a revolution just now
    in which every workplace is required by law to have an HR department
    swatting down misogynists and every police department is ready to take
    you to a local "Family Court" and sue you for sexual harassment.

    And that's why they have training for every employee in every work
    place to make sure you behave according to the new American ethos.

    Unfortunately, Trump never worked for anybody except his own dad's
    business or himself. So he never knew when to keep his mouth shut.

    The fact that there is training in every corner of our land means that
    there should also be training for the person who is coming to sit and
    coo in the White House.

    In fact, there has always been training of one kind or another for
    federal employees all the way up to the president. Unfortunately, it
    is so far only limited to security matters - not anything related to
    ethics or current etiquette. And that's why we have presidents like
    Bill Clinton, George W Bush, and Barack Obama who have lied and killed
    with impunity.

    And Hillary wasn't even yet president and she defied the required
    security training for a secretary of state.

    But training is what can change a society in which no person who wants
    to work is too old to go through requisite training to make the
    society whole.

    But what do politicians do? And what does the MSM do?

    They want Trump to make orphans of tens of millions of people who
    yearn for change and for peace because of they have a gotcha moment.

    They grab his lewd and misogynist words from over ten years ago and
    beat him down anyway they can. Yet, we have a Hillary who is
    unrepentant about catering to the Wall Street bankers and vows to do
    more to kill women and children in the Middle East. And she is
    greeted with open arms to take over the Bush-Obama campaign for blood
    lust.

    I say, this group of people are hypocrites!

    Those who claim to represent Christians should not forget the road
    to redemption goes through education (giving the sinner the new
    light) and repentance (giving the sinner a chance to change for the
    better).

    Of course, an election is a secular event. We choose what we
    individually think will be the best for our future. Shall we allow
    ourselves to be continuously misled by machinery which has been
    rigged to bypass our interests and the interests of all the
    defenseless people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and other countries
    and tip the scales of this election? And what has our own religious
    training taught us? We should see through the latest "unforgivable
    sin" of Trump. Of course, women are important in every man's life.
    And of course, men have mistreated women for too long, especially
    the men from a feudal society like that I have seen close up. But
    does that mean that it is OK to kill women and children in other
    countries with impunity, just because we are PC at home?

    What we do need is ethical training for politicians and propaganda
    operatives.

    We can't just have a narrow aperture for what we as a society must do
    to keep our collective health.

    We must stop greed and the appetite for war.

    lo yeeOn

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595047

    Analysis - Anthony Zurcher, BBC News

    In some alternate universe, the Clinton Wikileaks story would be
    dominating the news this weekend, as pundits and analysts speculate on
    whether the revelations could tilt the election to Marco Rubio, Jeb
    Bush or even Ted Cruz.

    Instead, this is Donald Trump's world, and we're all just along for
    the ride.

    That doesn't mean the contents of the purloined messages, assuming
    they are in fact legitimate and undoctored, won't do lasting damage to
    Mrs Clinton - if not on Election Day, then as she tries to govern a
    sharply divided nation in the months and years ahead.

    They provide yet more evidence that Mrs Clinton is pro-open-trade and sympathetic to Wall Street interests, despite her protestations
    otherwise. They also reveal a decidedly middle-of-the-road, pragmatic
    political attitude that won't sit well with the populist wing of her
    own party.

    After the dust has settled in this election, the divisions within the Democratic ranks will likely re-emerge - and these emails and speech
    excerpts will be Exhibit A through Z for those on the left who doubt
    Mrs Clinton's liberal bona fides.

    Her every attempt to reach across the aisle to Republicans will be
    viewed with the highest of suspicions.

    The excerpts include comments made at an event sponsored by Goldman
    Sachs in October 2013 in which Mrs Clinton spoke of the need to
    consult Wall Street over financial reform.

    "The people that know the industry better than anybody are the people
    who work in the industry," Mrs Clinton said.

    At another speech presented to a Brazilian bank in 2013, she spoke of
    her "dream" for a common trade market.

    "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open
    borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and
    sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for
    every person in the hemisphere," Mrs Clinton said.

    The leak comes after the US accused Russia of a cyber attack against
    political organisations intended to influence the presidential
    election.

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to mikako on Sun Oct 9 04:52:29 2016
    XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.latin-america

    On 10/9/2016 3:39 AM, mikako wrote:


    It seems you are pro-Trump.

    All your these bashings heaped on Hillary are not congruent with their
    future anymore.

    What you have to do is to think out of the box away from your these obsessions and think what makes the changes between them instead.

    OK, can you now write out your arguments on what changes do you think
    can evoke from each of them from next year onwards after their election
    next month on Nov 7.

    It ain't over until the fat lady sings. We have no reason to trust
    information from either the DNC or the RNC...The Media is camp run-amok.
    The Polls are all over the place and even forged. Yet I have met very
    few that claim to be voting for Hillary. I have met many in several
    states that believe she is guilty of Treason and Espionage and should be promptly incarcerated. Our faith in the FBI has been shattered. We find
    the IRS is a weapon against any who disagree with the power
    structure.Homeland Security is a damned joke.WE find there is not
    equality under the law. We have an administration that would continued
    under Hillary that has vastly divided this country under racial, gender, political and moral standards. 100 years ago we would have hung the lot
    of them. We have just about every country in the world upset with us. We
    are under indictment as the most terrorist nation!

    --
    It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
    the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
    ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
    be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster

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  • From inoki@21:1/5 to mikako on Mon Oct 10 01:10:22 2016
    XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.latin-america

    Regardless of whoever wishes to vote her or not, can you explain which
    guilty of the past and present she had vastly divided the country under
    racial, gender, political, and moral standards?





    "PaxPerPoten" wrote in message news:ntd408$t0k$1@dont-email.me...

    On 10/9/2016 3:39 AM, mikako wrote:


    It seems you are pro-Trump.

    All your these bashings heaped on Hillary are not congruent with their
    future anymore.

    What you have to do is to think out of the box away from your these obsessions and think what makes the changes between them instead.

    OK, can you now write out your arguments on what changes do you think
    can evoke from each of them from next year onwards after their election
    next month on Nov 7.

    It ain't over until the fat lady sings. We have no reason to trust
    information from either the DNC or the RNC...The Media is camp run-amok.
    The Polls are all over the place and even forged. Yet I have met very
    few that claim to be voting for Hillary. I have met many in several
    states that believe she is guilty of Treason and Espionage and should be promptly incarcerated. Our faith in the FBI has been shattered. We find
    the IRS is a weapon against any who disagree with the power
    structure.Homeland Security is a damned joke.WE find there is not
    equality under the law. We have an administration that would continued
    under Hillary that has vastly divided this country under racial, gender, political and moral standards. 100 years ago we would have hung the lot
    of them. We have just about every country in the world upset with us. We
    are under indictment as the most terrorist nation!

    --
    It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
    the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
    ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
    be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster

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